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[Kanbee-san]

Theres a gamespot interview floating around with the PR guy for the speedster wheel. It shows someother dude playing it, but he says its FF and vibration. He definately says force feedback, not FF through vibration or FF effects.

An official statement wouldnt hurt, yay or nay?

 

[shuri]

Which was the dev that came up with the concept of "Liquid AI" ?

 

[Gek54]

From what I can tell it is still just vibration though just not as simple as the controler vibration. This seems to vibrate the wheel in a twisting manor but also the wheel shakes seperate from its base. You wont feel the wheel pushing against you due to G-forces. They have to say TRUE Force Feedback for it be on the same level as the Logitech TFF wheels.

Which was the dev that came up with the concept of "Liquid AI" ?

Sega for their NFL2ksomething iirc.

 

[Kanbee-san]

From what I can tell it is still just vibration though just not as simple as the controler vibration. This seems to vibrate the wheel in a twisting manor but also the wheel shakes seperate from its base. You wont feel the wheel pushing against you due to G-forces. They have to say TRUE Force Feedback for it be on the same level as the Logitech TFF wheels.

A bigass metal momo is whats needed here. Mine doesnt work with the xbox (i know FF isnt supported, but it doesnt even steer nor do buttons react).

 

[GhaleonEB]

Of all the genres which should be 60fps, racing is at the top. No sensation of speed = no buy.

 

[Gek54]

The sensation of speed is still there if not more so than GT since you have to be so careful to maintian control of the car, with aids off of course.

A friend and I walked into EB today and he wanted to get the Forza demo for himself. I asked the clerk if he had any and he paused for a second and said, "Oh you mean Forenza, you need say it with a West Texas accent." :lol Dont ask....I didnt.

 

[Gek54]

A bigass metal momo is whats needed here. Mine doesnt work with the xbox (i know FF isnt supported, but it doesnt even steer nor do buttons react).

You were able to plug your momo into your xbox?

WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU, AND WHAT DID YOU DO TO GEK!?

Spill it, bitch! where did you stash his body!? Those are NOT the words of the GT Fuhrur I know.

Man, was I that bad? I think it was Kaz's comment, about Enthusia might be taking realism to far, that slapped me in the face. I dusted off my xbox, removed my Sony goggles and reevaulated Forza with an open mind.

 

[Kanbee-san]

You were able to plug your momo into your xbox?

I modded the cable to be a dual usb/xbox connector.

 

[FightyF]

Most developers say they use that kind of technology in their racing games. Blah Blah AI Blah Learning Blah.

BZZT. WRONG.

NO developer has had similar technology for racing games.

The only similar technology you can compare it to is the stuff VC recently did for NFl 2K5, where it learns how a player plays and plays like them.

Yes, its made up PR bullshit to get column inches.

Apparently you don't know what it is, and yet you decided to talk about it. You're pulling off a Guileless, dude.

And like in my threads with Guileless, being the nice guy I am I'll explain some things rather than have you research it for yourself. Actually on second thought I don't have the time. Sorry! Perhaps next time!

 

[bishoptl]

Sega for their NFL2ksomething iirc.

No - it was EA market-speak for Madden back when Gameday was kicking their ass on PSOne.