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[Akia]

Nothing overshoots Zelda...

...the only perfect franchise...

...This is looking to go above and beyond OOT...

Wow, expectations are being held that high, huh. Well everyone knows its going to be a good Zelda game. But better than OOT...we'll see.

 

[Li Mu Bai]

We already know there's a boat. Some of the fishing scans from EGM show link fishing from a boat in a huge river.

That was more of a paddle canoe type boat GG, I'm failing to see how that mode of travel would be faster than a horse. Unless Link is somehow now white watering.

 

[Chrono]

Wow, expectations are being held that high, huh. Well everyone knows its going to be a good Zelda game. But better than OOT...we'll see.

I think a lot of people will be disappointed, especially with Zelda arriving at the same time as next-gen stuff.

though if it does exceed these unbelievable expectations, well, what can I say? Greatest game of all time.

 

[GaimeGuy]

I think a lot of people will be disappointed, especially with Zelda arriving at the same time as next-gen stuff.

though if it does exceed these unbelievable expectations, well, what can I say? Greatest game of all time.

Well, same thing happened with Majora's Mask. It was released between the DC and the Ps2 launches, and a lot of people consider that to be the pinnacle of Zelda.

 

[Shin Johnpv]

Except we only heard bits and pieces about it in OOT. I talking a much younger Ganondorf here. Before he became evil/immortal. This game would take place before even OOT.

as another poster pointed out cant happen

the story that took place in OOT is the very first one chronologically for the Zelda Universe you can't go any earlier than that any younger and Link and Zelda wouldnt be born yet and what would be the point in that game running around saving hyrule with Link's pregnant mom

 

[GaimeGuy]

as another poster pointed out cant happen

the story that took place in OOT is the very first one chronologically for the Zelda Universe you can't go any earlier than that any younger and Link and Zelda wouldnt be born yet and what would be the point in that game running around saving hyrule with Link's pregnant mom

Well, Ganon had to get his sword skills and sorcery from somewhere. He's a damn talented swordsman, as seen in Wind Waker, and a powerful sorcerer even before he gets the triforce in Ocarina of Time, so there still is some stuff that's unexplained about ganondorf. Maybe this has to do with the Unification War which happened before OoT Link was born? Ganondorf might have participated in that war and became a high-ranking knight. That would explain why he was granted admission into the castle and an audience with the king of hyrule in OoT.

Or not.

 

[Mallrat83]

as another poster pointed out cant happen

the story that took place in OOT is the very first one chronologically for the Zelda Universe you can't go any earlier than that any younger and Link and Zelda wouldnt be born yet and what would be the point in that game running around saving hyrule with Link's pregnant mom

Sure you can, imagine a game in the vein of the new Star Wars trilogy. It would chronicle Ganon's rise to power and evilness much in the same way Episodes 1-3 deal with Anakin Skywalker's transformation from innocent child to Darth Vader.

In fact, I think it would be a kickass game that would deepen the Ganon character a bit. The Wind Waker teased/hinted at a deeper Ganon, this game would show it.

 

[Li Mu Bai]

Wait till after e3 to make that kinda comment. Anything could happen, with a next gen console coming out this year as well. People usually over rate next gen launch titles too.

This is usually the case Akia, but the sheer amount of size, depth, attention to detail, & most importantly the gameplay is something that this latest LOZ iteration is offering. From what we've heard thus far, what could compete with it from this gen. this year IYO? (The Colossus, SC:CT, GOW, Forza, RE4, Doom 3 XBX, Final Fantasy XIII?) Why should a next-gen console game even be considered with the curent-gen? Many games were rushed to meet MS's launch deadline, whle the visuals may not be indicative of this the gameplay will. But I still feel it should be judged by its contemporary software competition, & not those showcasing next-gen technology.

 

[GaimeGuy]

This is usually the case Akia, but the sheer amount of size, depth, attention to detail, & most importantly the gameplay is something that this latest LOZ iteration is offering. From what we've heard thus far, what could compete with it from this gen. this year IYO? (The Colossusus, SC:CT, GOW, Forza, Doom 3 XBX, Final Fantasy XII?l) Why should a next-gen console game even be considered with the curent-gen? Many games were rushed to meet MS's launch deadline, whle the visuals may not be indicative of this the gameplay will. But I still feel it should be judged by its contemporary software competition, & not those showcasing next-gen technology.

I like how you didn't list RE4 in that list.

 

[Socreges]

This news rekindled some excitement. Mmmm Zelda

I like how you didn't list RE4 in that list.

What's funny is that "I like how you didn't list RE4 in that list" is really something that Li Mui Bai would say himself. He loves to forward the most insignificant challenges against people that might be insulting Nintendo/Gamecube.

 

[Li Mu Bai]

Edited boys. How I could forget is beyond me, esp. since I mentioned it earlier with JE as the 2 best games I've played all year.

 

[GaimeGuy]

Edited boys. How I could forget is beyond me, esp. since I mentioned it earlier with JE.

you didn't need to edit it. Really, it doesn't matter. It's a damn list. -_-

 

[Chrono]

What did he edit!?

 

[Li Mu Bai]

This news rekindled some excitement. Mmmm Zelda


What's funny is that "I like how you didn't list RE4 in that list" is really something that Li Mui Bai would say himself. He loves to forward the most insignificant challenges against people that might be insulting Nintendo/Gamecube.

Would you care to post links to my insignificant challenges Socreges? I listed what I felt were quality or potentially quality software, despite the platform. The GC is my system of choice, but I can certainly recognize/play & give praise where it is due. I simply tire of the constant trolls.

 

[Li Mu Bai]

What did he edit!?

I somehow neglected to put RE4 on my list Chrono.

 

[Li Mu Bai]

Nothing overshoots Zelda. This is still, in many eyes, the only perfect franchise. If anything, we will be demanding more from this game than the next-gen shit. This is looking to go above and beyond OOT, as crazy as it sounds.

AI, I don't consider nor expect any series to be absolutely perfect. Though the LOZ & the MGS series have all consistently maintained a "AAA" level that most franchises or software cannot touch. It's the creativeness, a different way of incorporating gameplay aspects & elements that creates this distinction. The new LOZ is poised to overtake the OOT, which is quite a feat in itself, though I believe it will happen. Its simply beyond anything that the series has attempted before. Both in size, scope, & depth.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

I wonder how huge the hype after E3 will be for this game. They need to do a year long buildup with great ads and whatnot like MS did with Halo 2. They marketed that perfectly. It is too bad the game didnt live up to the hype. It was very very good, but still fell a little short.

The last game i can think of that not only lived up to the hype but exceeded it was Ocarina of Time. If Nintendo somehow manages again this gen to pull a miracle like that off, I dont know if I will have enough clean pairs of underwear to last through the excitement.

I hope this game comes out and kicks everyone's ass from here to right over there.

 

[Kamtendo]

With every new bit of information, my excitement for this game just increases. At this rate, my head will explode before it's release date. Nintendo's going all out to bring us the ultimate Zelda, and I can't wait to get my hands on it.

 

[Li Mu Bai]

Isn't this the very opposite of what Aonuma said in that 1up article?

Aonuma: "In the final version, it will definitely be possible to ride on every mount of beaten enemies"

This is a direct quote coming from the german Gamepro.

 

[Li Mu Bai]

More german LOZ Gamepro info. translations, credit to stevo18 at the GCN GB.

1. Link can cut grass as he walks.

2. Link grows up in the game.

3. The Lady who is pregnant stays at the village. When Link comes back the baby will be 2 years old!

4. Gannon will have a minor role in the game.

WTH! Ganon will have a minor role? Nice! Real-time aging, & grass cutting for Olimario to boot. A newly introduced main nemesis?

 

[olimario]

Grass?!
Where are the videos of this wonderful grass cutting?
I'm wary of the walking while swinging thing. I hope it doesn't look and feel goofy.

 

[midnightguy]

Grass?!
Where are the videos of this wonderful grass cutting?

the only are in the future. at E3!

 

[Li Mu Bai]

Grass?!
Where are the videos of this wonderful grass cutting?
I'm wary of the walking while swinging thing. I hope it doesn't look and feel goofy.

I'm assuming in other areas than what was scanned, unless they plan on adding additional foliage in the rural towns which would be my guess, since it is a farming community.

 

[Cragstar]

"Please watch Gents as Link wanders the open plains hacking away grass, and chases little Olimarios, covered in grass, whilst eating grass and shitting grass"
That my friends was Link Olimariowning You

Reggie

 

[Li Mu Bai]

"Please watch Gents as Link wanders the open plains hacking away grass, and chases little Olimarios, covered in grass, whilst eating grass and shitting grass"
That my friends was Link Olimariowning You

Reggie

:lol

 

[AniHawk]

Except we only heard bits and pieces about it in OOT. I talking a much younger Ganondorf here. Before he became evil/immortal. This game would take place before even OOT.

I'd love to see a game like this too. It could be split into three parts:

1. Control Ganondorf. Find out what drove him to his quest for power. Also could tie in some Zelda 2 elements if they felt like bringing the older games into the fray.
2. Control the future King of Hyrule in the Unification War. The Sheikah will perish during the war for some reason.
3. Control the Hero of Time's father as he finds out the truth behind the Unification War, and who the puppet master is.

 

[Mama Smurf]

This is a direct quote coming from the german Gamepro.

And this is a direct quote from 1up:

I try to steal one of their big boar rides but can't, and Aonuma explains you'll only be able to do that at certain times, or with certain animals.

So one of them is wrong.

As for a Ganondorf origin story, obviously we could see that even if it'd be set before the first Link's birth. It's not like we've not had time travel in the Zelda series before. Just send a later Link back.

However, putting aside the Gamepro translation that says he only has a minor part, I think we can stop speculating about a Ganondorf origin story anyway. Aonuma's said he's still not sure where this Zelda will fit in the storyline, but there's only one place it could be if that was a focus. Unless he's lying to keep it a secret...but then whyn not just say he couldn't tell us yet?

 

[AniHawk]

Unless he's lying to keep it a secret

I think it's this. They're 2 weeks from revealing it. I don't see how they couldn't have the story down yet.

...but then whyn not just say he couldn't tell us yet?

Maybe to increase speculation? I dunno..

 

[Cragstar]

remember the interview was 2 months ago!!

 

[Mama Smurf]

Yeah, but they were like...2 1/2 months from revealing it when all these people got to see it.

I really don't know how the process works though. I seem to recall some Miyamoto interview talking about making games in the past, maybe even about Zelda, but I'll never be able to find it. I think they build the storyline around the areas and gameplay ideas they've set up though, certainly it's the last thing to go in (which isn't hard to believe given Nintendo's..."storylines"). How late that happens though, I dunno.

I guess if you're making a game pretty unconnected to other titles in the series, it would be quite easy to decide where to put it in late on in development. They must have known when WW was set earlier on, the whole game is based around it, but if this one isn't then all they'll need to do is add/change some dialogue to let us realise where it is.

 

[Cragstar]

a lot can happen in those 2 1/2 months

 

[AniHawk]

Oh yeah.. I forgot that there's a bigger timespan than the last couple weeks (which reminds me, I STILL haven't received my EGM).

I'm just worried about the story. After The Wind Waker, which I felt had a well told story, I was surprised that they didn't know where it'd be set. As much as I love the game, I really don't want just another Ocarina of Time.

 

[Industry insider]

The boat is a speedboat. It's not like the one on the Wind Waker.

 

[Cragstar]

Zelda story always works in the end

EA is prob screwing with us.
The games prob set in concrete as to what they are doing but throwing us off the scent

 

[Cragstar]

The boat is a speedboat. It's not like the one on the Wind Waker.

How would a speedboat fit into a Middle age style world?

 

[Industry insider]

How would a speedboat fit into a Middle age style world?

Link can travel back and forth in time like in Ocarina of Time and bring objects back with him in a bag.

 

[Cragstar]

wow thats ONE BIG bag.

Hello NPC i'll take that bag, big enough for a speedboat.

Cheers

 

[WordAssassin]

Go and buy/play The Minish Cap. .

Fucking hell. I've seen two comments alone in this thread suggesting that this zelda is about the origins of Vaati.

IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE
GO PLAY MINISH CAP.

I'm..I'm getting this feeling that I should play Minish Cap? Am I imagining this?

 

[gamergirly]

And this is a direct quote from 1up:



So one of them is wrong.

As for a Ganondorf origin story, obviously we could see that even if it'd be set before the first Link's birth. It's not like we've not had time travel in the Zelda series before. Just send a later Link back.

However, putting aside the Gamepro translation that says he only has a minor part, I think we can stop speculating about a Ganondorf origin story anyway. Aonuma's said he's still not sure where this Zelda will fit in the storyline, but there's only one place it could be if that was a focus. Unless he's lying to keep it a secret...but then whyn not just say he couldn't tell us yet?

Which all leads me back to the original point I made. They said at first that the game would be a sequel to The Wind Waker, but it seems that a shift in the storyline or something caused them to redraw that statement and say that they didnt know "where" it took place.

Because, quite simply, once you dictate or disclose where this new Zelda takes place in the overall Zelda timeline, you pretty much eliminate possiblities. Once you know it takes place after or before a certain Zelda game, then it's more likely certain characters will show up(besides new ones that is) than it would be possible in other scenarios.