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new Nintendo DS units blocks PassMe devices (homebrew stuff)
- Thread starter Wario64
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BAh, why do Sony and Nintendo both keep trying to screw homebrew developers? I really don't have any vested interest in homebrew development but I really don't see how it hurts their bottom line or anything. I'm sure most homebrew developers are courteous enough not to pirate content.
Ultra Magnanimous
Member
Mashing said:
Piracy. Full stop.
jamesinclair
Banned
Although Homebrew is nice, it usually does lead to piracy.
I am also surprised that Nintendo did this, but its a good move on there sad. Shame for people who want to use this for legal purposes though.
I am also surprised that Nintendo did this, but its a good move on there sad. Shame for people who want to use this for legal purposes though.
radioheadrule83
Banned
Word.
This looks like a good thread for me to ask about DS homebrew.
I don't own a DS, so really I know nothing about the homebrew scene. How exactly does it work on DS? How far along is the homebrew stuff? Are there good dev tools out there for the homebrew developers? Can anyone provide me with info?
I don't own a DS, so really I know nothing about the homebrew scene. How exactly does it work on DS? How far along is the homebrew stuff? Are there good dev tools out there for the homebrew developers? Can anyone provide me with info?
This is not a big deal. It is incredibly simple to re-write the firmware on the DS, and by writing new firmware to your DS you can use developers' GBA carts to run homebrew.
Future versions of the DS might make it so that you have to take your DS apart to flash new firmware, or maybe make it impossible, but that might mess up their manufacturing process, so I doubt they'll do that.
Future versions of the DS might make it so that you have to take your DS apart to flash new firmware, or maybe make it impossible, but that might mess up their manufacturing process, so I doubt they'll do that.
radioheadrule83
Banned
Ecrofirt said:
Well DS homebrew hit the ground running thanks to the reasonably healthy GBA homebrew scene.
They basically learned of a way to get at the full DS hardware from the GBA port initially. Eventually PassMe was born... a hardware solution to make it easy. You need a working valid DS cart and a GBA flash cart for this. Later, they've put together WiFi Me. This is a solution which allows you to boot unsigned code simply by using a PC with a compatible wireless adaptor. Some clever soul has custom written a driver for a certain wireless chipset that means some (not many) products will be able to communicate with the DS wirelessly. So providing you have the right equipment all you have to do is prepare whatever you want to send to your DS on the PC, and then go to the "DS download play" option in the DS' main menu. In both instances, I believe you're limited in terms of what size apps you can boot. This might be holding things back somewhat compared to the holes and opportunities that the PSPs memory stick access provides... I imagine though that an actual hardware mod is in the works, or that they'll crack this problem soon.
I also have a feeling that when Nintendo launch their online service it will give the homebrew community the clues they need to send data to the DS from ANY wireless adaptor or router. Which would be incredible.
A lot of the initial efforts were to get unsigned code to boot on Nintendo DS, via GBA flash carts. There's quite a decent amount of stuff going on, including emulators etc. They've got high quality MP3s playing on it - it's limited as yet, but no doubt it'll turn into something great. There's other players as indicated below - List courtesy of DCemu:
Emulators: Chip 8, Celecovision, Gameking, GB emu, MSX, Neogeo Pocket, NES, ScummVM, SNES, Wonderswan..
Music: Libmad (MP3) Demonstration, Ogg Demo, Pocket SPC player, S3m Player, Simple NSF Player
Apps: Jpeg View, MoonShell, nDos, Pixel Fixer, WinS
Homebrew demos:2d Demo, 3d Demo, Draw Demo, Extended Pallette, GLU Sphere, GLU Text Quads, Led Blinking Demo, Mode 4 Bitmap, Mode 4 Pallette, Mode 6 Plasma, Minesweeper, Mixed Cubes, Neo Flash, Particles Demo, Rotating Shapes, Sprite Demo, Star Fighter, Sub Pixel Font, Test Demo, Tromino Tile Demo, Touch Drag, Transformer, Water Drops , Yeti Port
Homebrew Game Projects: Abalone, 2ND Homebrew, Battleship DS, Birds DS, Carre Rouge, CasseBrique, Donkey Bonga, DrugWars DS, DS Bright Star, DS Heretic, Duck Hunt, Earth Invadors, Follarium, Football Jonglage, Gridlock DS, Gorilla DS, Hexen DS, Iro, Jumpfree, JW Pool, Lights Out Cube, Magic Lines, Nibbles DS, NDS YasfCave, Pong DS, Ping Pong 3D, Tetris DS, Missile Command DS , Musk, Sponge, Stupid Golf DS, Taupes, Teenage Queen, YatzyDos
http://nintendo-ds.dcemu.co.uk/
radioheadrule83
Banned
COCKLES said:
True. Thank god I didn't wait for Meteos.
I do think they've been holding back in light of the impending PSP launch though... September will see Zoo Tycoon, Castlevania, Megaman, Meteos, Advance Wars and Madden 2006 released for DS. Then it ramps up towards Metroid, Nintendogs, Mario Kart and Animal Crossing at the latter end of the year.
I noticed Animaniacs: Lights, Camera, Action came out for DS recently. ÂŁ15! Not that I'm going to buy it or anything, but the price is right for kids.
I don't see how this is surprising anyone. AFAIK, Nintendo has revised the GBA a number of times to lockout unauthorized devices.
GameSharks designed for the "regular" GBA don't even work on the GBA SP.
Basically, if you pick up a flashcart or a cheat device, you should make sure that your GameBoy is older than that device.
The difference is that (with the updatable firmware) Sony is announcing it every time they make a modification, and giving a name to the modification, and telling you to turn all your "old version" devices into "new version" devices, while trying to explain to you how locking out piracy is "better" for you.
GameSharks designed for the "regular" GBA don't even work on the GBA SP.
Basically, if you pick up a flashcart or a cheat device, you should make sure that your GameBoy is older than that device.
The difference is that (with the updatable firmware) Sony is announcing it every time they make a modification, and giving a name to the modification, and telling you to turn all your "old version" devices into "new version" devices, while trying to explain to you how locking out piracy is "better" for you.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Price drops after half a year aren't that uncommon. Also for a price drop it would make sense for it to happen around the world at about the same time, and September would be 9+ months for the US and Japan. It's possible.Thomper said:
A DS pricedrop to $99, 10000 Yen or 99 euros this month would be great to, respectively, give the system some steam in NA, pull ahead in Japan and slowdown the PSP launch in Europe. Nintendo historically has dropped prices around this time of year (GC, GBASP). A DS pricedrop might be a good indicator for an SP price drop (sales have slowed in Japan considerably) and a low price point for the Micro right out the gate, which launches next month.
Let‘s Nintendo's smart enough.
Let‘s Nintendo's smart enough.
UPDATE
The old version of passme does not work with the IQueDS and Red NDS. A new version of passme have already been developed and tested for it to work, so it will be out soon. If you don't want to use PassMe, then WiFiMe and Flashme will still work.
I check the other forums and it seems Loopy got it to work(He owns a Red DS).
The old version of passme does not work with the IQueDS and Red NDS. A new version of passme have already been developed and tested for it to work, so it will be out soon. If you don't want to use PassMe, then WiFiMe and Flashme will still work.
I check the other forums and it seems Loopy got it to work(He owns a Red DS).
FortNinety
Member
So are the DSs that are on store shelves now still able to use PassMe devices? Are the new units in circulation?