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jarrod said:
Expect PD Zero to pull a "Star Fox Adventures" with continual delays of a month or two until it finally releases a year after system launch. I have no doubt Kameo's going to be Rare's only 2005 360 release.


PD0 is the backbone of the 360 launch. No way the game is missing it.
 
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:lol christ... that guy might need help getting up
 
super-heated plasma said:
Some multiplayer vid of a old build of the game not running on final dev kit, and you already write the game off. In spite of the fact they still have months of dev time, on the FINAL dev kit, and that multiplayer games always have toned down graphics compared to the single player.

Give things a chance, man....E3 is here soon enoguh, then we'll see.

when MS launch globally on MTV, to millions of people, spending 90% of the air time reserved for games building up to PD0 - they deserve every fucking slam they are getting

And if, after all that, the game looks great, with shots released hours afterwards, then they deserve even more slaps for being so stupid.
 
It's so funny seeing everyone go into scramble mode.

How much should I bash Rare?

What if these shots don't represent the final game look and they look alot better? What can I bash about them then. I guess I can say the game will never be released. :D
 
Prine said:
Exciting isnt it :D

Single player >> Xbox360 alpha multiplayer

the screen of the closeup of Joanna that was released with the initial batch doesn't exactly strike me as multiplayer. What would be the context of that? Looked more like some kind of cutscene to me. I don't buy that excuse.
 
dorio said:
It's so funny seeing everyone go into scramble mode.

How much should I bash Rare?

What if these shots don't represent the final game look and they look alot better? What can I bash about them then. I guess I can say the game will never be released. :D

Bash them for allowing MS to show shonky multiplayer code simply because MS love multiplayer over LIVE so much, and thats more important than blitzing casual gamers with eye candy.

I don't know how they can make such a bad call, unless J.Allard has all the Xbox staff fitted with Xbox live blinkers. They certainly spent more time talking about live in the MTV ad than what the machine can actually deliver in terms of game experience.
 
SantaCruZer said:
well I agree, but they should do something about their own NST

have you played mario vs. donkey kong? it's so awesome it redeems all of nst's other crap.

and, uh...these new shots consist of two potential renders and two obviously in-game screens. the in-game screens look horrendous. so i don't see why anyone's at all encouraged.

edit: actually, looking at that shot of the soldiers some more, it seems real-time. if the actual game looks like that new joanna shot, then the day is saved. what the hell is going on here? there seem to be about a dozen joanna models and a half-dozen builds of the game in circulation.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
the screen of the closeup of Joanna that was released with the initial batch doesn't exactly strike me as multiplayer. What would be the context of that? Looked more like some kind of cutscene to me. I don't buy that excuse.


They were multiplayer shots taken from 1up article, which stated that the single player was "tightly under wraps"
 
Prine said:
They were multiplayer shots taken from 1up article, which stated that the single player was "tightly under wraps"


Well hopefully the single player gets unwrapped soon because the PD0 fiasco has gone beyond ugly.
 
Mrbob said:
PD0 is the backbone of the 360 launch. No way the game is missing it.
I think MGS is going to lean on Epic to rush Gears of War instead. Similar to Bungie's insane rush for Halo making Xbox 1 launch.

Between Kameo, PGR3 & Gears, MGS will have an excellent launch lineup. PD0 would be better served getting cleaned up and launching later.


drohne said:
have you played mario vs. donkey kong? it's so awesome it redeems all of nst's other crap.
While MVsDK is indeed excellent, it doesn't even begin to atone for what NST did to Ridge Racer or Crystalis. Never forget!
 
jarrod said:
I think MGS is going to lean on Epic to rush Gears of War instead. Similar to Bungie's insane rush for Halo making Xbox 1 launch.

Between Kameo, PGR3 & Gears, MGS will have an excellent launch lineup. PD0 would be better served getting cleaned up and launching later.



While MVsDK is indeed excellent, it doesn't even begin to atone for what NST did to Ridge Racer or Crystalis. Never forget!

GoW isn't due until next summer though. That'd be one hell of a rush. i don't think they can knock almost a year off the dev time.
 
jarrod said:
I think MGS is going to lean on Epic to rush Gears of War instead. Similar to Bungie's insane rush for Halo making Xbox 1 launch.

Between Kameo, PGR3 & Gears, MGS will have an excellent launch lineup. PD0 would be better served getting cleaned up and launching later.



While MVsDK is indeed excellent, it doesn't even begin to atone for what NST did to Ridge Racer or Crystalis. Never forget!


Gears of war isn't due out till August 2006. :(
 
morbidaza said:
When that 6 month rush cuts your remaining dev time in half...that's a big rush.
Well looking at PD0... it looks like it needs more than 6 extra months. I'm just betting Gears of War will get sacrificed/rushed becasue it's good looking already.

I mean, this is Rare people. Does anyone *really* expect PD0 this year?
 
The X360 launch is strong enough without PD0, and really, PD0 does not look good, it needs more time. It is the flagship title and all....

And its interesting to note that people were so disappointed by SS batch #1 (1up) that on several different message boards posters are actually saying these new screen shots look good, FANTASTIC, and NEXT-GEN. :lol
 
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Getting closer.....even if the models aren't quite all that, there's a good 19 of them right there. Get some huge battles with 40+ enemies going on, with vehicles, and it will rock.
 
Striek said:
The X360 launch is strong enough without PD0, and really, PD0 does not look good, it needs more time. It is the flagship title and all....

And its interesting to note that people were so disappointed by SS batch #1 (1up) that on several different message boards posters are actually saying these new screen shots look good, FANTASTIC, and NEXT-GEN. :lol

Everything is relative. They're fantastic compared to the last batch. But, that's it.

I'm inclined to bump the 'What do you expect from next gen' thread from a while back, with all those ridiculously detailed cg scenes being posted. Would be quite humourous.

Of course, nothing should be written off yet. I have no reason to lower my expectation from the other 2 players. I fully expect to be impressed.
 
Looks alot better,especially that close up of Joanna,thats really hot if real...

I really have no doubts that the game will improve greatly in the graphics department,no where to go but up really :P
 
Ok, now I'm getting excited again. Those soldiers look like those Killzone soldiers in the commercials. That's pretty awesome looking. Like someone said, if Rare can get those graphics with 50 players at 30 fps (60 would be preferable, but Halo is 30 so meh), I'd be impressed.
 
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If that was how the game looked, then I'd truly believe... What they did show on PD0 was less-than compelling, that's for sure. I mean Kameo, Madden and NFS:MW looked abso-freakin-lutely awesome! What the heck is PD0's issue?

Com'on RARE, even Conker on Xbox 1 looks better!
 
Seriously, WTF is going on with this game. We've seen at least 5 different Joannas. And it's not just different outfits, but completely different artstyles. Strange...
 
I have a friend who has a brother who has a dog that works at Rare, and he says that each time you beat the game you unlock an updated graphics engine. Beat the game eight times and you unlock the true power of 360! You must take at least three months each time to beat the game, and you unlock the newer graphics engines by logging onto Live and downloading the latest graphics patch.
 
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I wondered why this thread grew so fast. Those pics are pretty much direct capture and not scans - its damage control release imo.

The Joanna one is just :lol that's clearly not ingame as well, you won't be seeing that view and well, she looks nothing like any of the other shots of Joanna.

As for the in-game shots, that's next gen? If you bring in the NNN shots, their character models are subperb - you cna see the edges on the armour so clearly. Again. Not next gen.

I notice the images got XY on them - its from XBOYDE isn't it. Continues to amaze me how they get all that media + images. I'm sure like our colony its like a viral marketin site masquerading as a fan site.
 
Odnetnin said:
I notice the images got XY on them - its from XBOYDE isn't it. Continues to amaze me how they get all that media + images. I'm sure like our colony its like a viral marketin site masquerading as a fan site.
It's called hard work! :)
 
I wondered why this thread grew so fast. Those pics are pretty much direct capture and not scans - its damage control release imo.
Releasing actual direct-capture pictures instead of shitty scans is "damage control"?

The Joanna one is just that's clearly not ingame as well, you won't be seeing that view and well, she looks nothing like any of the other shots of Joanna.
You sure that's not in-game? You absolutely positive that couldn't be a shot from a cut-scene or from switching to 3rd-person and swinging the camera around? I suppose you could be right.... I don't remember ever seeing Master Chief in Halo or Halo 2.

As for the in-game shots, that's next gen? If you bring in the NNN shots, their character models are subperb - you cna see the edges on the armour so clearly. Again. Not next gen.
They're shitty looking, jaggy, and not of the aspect ratio that every X360 screenshot was promised to be released in. I doubt that's the actual game.

And I don't know what 'subperb' means.... below perb?

As for the two screenshots posted above--assuming they are actual screens from the real build of the game, it's at the very least pretty impressive, and possibly really fucking nice depending on how good it looks in motion (animation, lighting/shadowing etc). We'll just have to see. Perhaps those original, shitty screenshots were just released as a mindfuck to set our expectations low, only to blow us away later. ... =/
 
seriously stfu GreenGiant. BlimbBlims site is great, and lots of people appreciate his hard work. The japanese conference, US MTV show, the individual clips of Xbox360 games, show him some fucking respect


He keeps trolling XBOX threads, why isnt he banned yet????

Mods???
 
"Releasing actual direct-capture pictures instead of shitty scans is 'damage control'?"

Yep. I'll bet anything that at some point MS will even try to release the actual game in an attempt to spin wall guy. I'm on to these guys and won't be tricked by quality. :)
 
Prine said:
seriously stfu GreenGiant. BlimbBlims site is great, and lots of people appreciate his hard work.


He keeps trolling XBOX threads, why isnt he banned yet????

Mods???


Dude this isn't Team-Xbox ok? There are Sony trolls, nin10do trolls, MS trolls etc, this is a diverse forum. If you can't handle the heat then I suggest you leave.
 
Doom_Bringer said:
Dude this isn't Team-Xbox ok? There are Sony trolls, nin10do trolls, MS trolls etc, this is a diverse forums. If you can't handle the heat then I suggest you leave.


Theres not one troll like GreenGiant. Seriously, not one. Theres plenty of people getting fucking tired of his BS
 
Prine said:
Theres not one troll like GreenGiant. Seriously, not one. Theres plenty of people getting fucking tired of his BS


“Dopeyfish” is pretty annoying, I am sick of his relentless trolling in Sony threads but you don't see me bitching.
 
Newer shots look like they are running on the Halo 2 engine.
 
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