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New Realtime PGR3 Trailer
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gollumsluvslave
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Quoted for truth.
eso76
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Gek54 said:
There is actually, because the camcorder captures all 60 frames and when the footage is encoded those 30 missing frames are still present in the video in 'ghosting' form, and they act as motion blur.
Generally there's quite some difference between 30 fps videos of 30fps and 60fps games, this one in particular looks definately smoother than 30fps, some parts of it at least.
Yep and in this months Edge they state with regard to Motostorm
"As for Motor Storm Sony claimed it was made using assests created by the developer Evolution studios. Edge however beleives the sequence was made entirely from CG specialist Realtime UK. "Neither the Sony or the Studio were prepared to reveal details. This issue arrises bacause, based on previous working methods, it seems lilely RealtimeUK would authored all assests in house. If this was the case it would make the description of the footage as "game demo" as an extreme exercise in being economical with the truth. Again don't expect this quality from launch games."
So we have 2 real time videos of PGR3 which pretty stunning to me and a Rendered movie
cyberheater
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Calidor said:
You better wait till PS4 then...
This vid looks stunning. I can't believe some of you don't think it looks amazing.
Try not being a fanboy for a minute and look at the vid again...
Kai Dracon
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The GT series has always had a deep feeling of 'realism' in the replays due to Polyphony going clusterfuck insane with trying to replicate the visual appearance of real-life vehicle physics - the exact way the cars bounce, sway, lean, accelerate, brake, yadda yadda. Even when the visuals are technically less 'realistic' than another game, GT still emits an underlying feeling of reality better than almost anything else. Really folks, it's largely about MOTION. Not polygon count or texture resolution or reflections. It's why we get the uncanny valley effect with lots of CGI human characters - they may have perfect skin and hair, but they don't -move- the way our brain is wired up to accept as completely real.
That said, Bizarre was never going for the same kind of perfect, unvarnished realism Polyphony is obsessed with. Their stuff has been a combination of realism and arcade (which, personally, I enjoy).
And the video does remind me that I still like Bizarre's city construction and modeling better than anything I've ever seen another developer achieve. Those guys really do capture the look of a real environment, that exists "beyond the track" - it's not just window dressing sitting on the sidelines. Even GT4's meticulously constructed real-life city courses just don't seem as real feeling to me as the cities in the graphically "inferior" Metropolis Street Racer back on the Dreamcast.
That said, Bizarre was never going for the same kind of perfect, unvarnished realism Polyphony is obsessed with. Their stuff has been a combination of realism and arcade (which, personally, I enjoy).
And the video does remind me that I still like Bizarre's city construction and modeling better than anything I've ever seen another developer achieve. Those guys really do capture the look of a real environment, that exists "beyond the track" - it's not just window dressing sitting on the sidelines. Even GT4's meticulously constructed real-life city courses just don't seem as real feeling to me as the cities in the graphically "inferior" Metropolis Street Racer back on the Dreamcast.
cyberheater said:
I hate the "if you don't find it impressive you're a fanboy" shit. I think I've shown enough that I can give other systems and game companies a fair shot. I've been very impressed with titles I would never even play, so don't pull that shit.
Something just looks off about PGR3... Very off.
Most of it is because there is a lack of realism both in style and how things should interact. Cars should never look like they are hovering. Rims should not look like they do in that trailer. I say if you can't admit the apparent flaws with what we've seen of the game then you're probably the extremist here.
Kaijima said:
I dont think its just that, even Forza's replays dont have that same feel. Kaz or whoever at PD is in charge of the Replay camera system(height, tracking, zoom and movement) has something special that other devs cant seem to come close to replicating. GT games have always had the best replays ever since the original.
Olimario, so you have sat at the side of a Road and watched a 430 go past at 100MPH and studied the rims have you? Nope thought not. The Car models look fantastic to me, perfect? No. But hey if they were perfect they would be the real thing or Photo's. The depths people go to critique games.
Pug said:
I've been on this earth long enough to tell when something created on a computer looks real or looks obviously fake. It's the reason why can look at the Matrix Reloaded and plainly see which characters during the fights are real and which are not.
The cars look like they are hovering. I've never seen that effect in real life.
The rims look off. I've never EVER seen rims look like that.
Olimario, As I said have you seen a 430 going at high speed and studied the rims (rims for godsakes, which you will not see in game). No. So you can't say if they look off or not because you have never seen them in motion. From the shots of the cars when not in motion the rims look pretty well rendered to me. I assume the hovering look which you go on about, will be sorted well before launch, although to be honest I can't see a major problem and its a problem people complain about, regarding a whole bunch of racers, none of which ended up with the said problem. Finally, are you going to buy a 360 and PGR3? If not why are you so concerned about its merits or in your case its negatives?
Teknopathetic
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You know it's time to shut up when Gek's defending PGR against you.
RonaldoSan
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Great level of detail but I'm with Oli on the car models. I don't know if it's the lightning or textures or something. They are very impressive but they very much look more rendered than real. The rim effect is also horrible. It's like the rims glow or something. No I haven't seen a car move at 400mph and no I haven't dodged bullets in slow motion but I know when graphics don't come off as natural.
Dr_Cogent said:
ahaha, i wrote that in excitement before i went out.
PGR3 is nothing less than stunnning. What we see here is realtime footage of replays and Gtv action camera angles. The revealing part about the PGR3 footage is what i expected next gen to be about all along. Think NES--> Snes instead of SNES -> N64.
incidental details that would have been a chore to accomplish this gen can be thrown in to add to the realism or fantasy of the game. eg. embossed logo on the Ferrari wing mirror.
The reflections and lighting impress me more than anything. wow.
can't wait till i can get hold of this in winter. i'll fail all my exams. :lol
Particle Physicist
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which video shows ingame footage? the one titled 'visuals' only has stills. :/
Kleegamefan
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You haters are HIGH if you say that doesn't look next-gen...
PGR3=HAWT!!!
PGR3=HAWT!!!