Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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Pachter is correct about Metal gear not being worth much without kojima, however i disagree about final fantasy. Sony need to make some moves here and quick. They need a souls studio to crank out Bloodborn and demon souls sequels, they need a FPS Studio, they need a rpg studio or 2. With rumors of bungie up for sale they should jump on that or pray micorosoft isnt they buyer. They are fine for the next year or two but the landscape is changing extremely fast. God war is cool and all but weve seen what happens when they give their lunatic sjw developers too long a leash like with the last of us 2. Sony cant afford to destroy another high profile IP to appease the resetera crowd.
 
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DaGwaphics said:
Craziest thing I've ever heard.

MS doesn't have many marketing deals in place, and the ones they do have are crunching hard on the console versions (not to mention being cross-gen). Sony lucked out (or should I say brute forced their way) into a betters situation with the studios they have deals with having console gameplay ready to go. I doubt there is a big conspiracy. If CDR had the next-gen patch ready and working for launch, I'm sure MS would be showing that off.

Once the games release, Sony can't stop reviewers from showing XSX footage, so we'll see what the comparison is then.
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Evil Sony strikes again.

What a weird issue like Sony is paying MS to not show their own game footage lol
 
FunkMiller said:
Hours and hours of Japanese YouTubers just playing Astro's Playroom will be two things: hilarious.... and absolutely pathetic.

"Demon's Souls? No no! You just want to see this little white robot bastard punching daises!"
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We saw the games, we just want to see the UI and load times. That's it.
 
Hix said:
Right, Microsoft has an embargo on content being shown other than BC. Obviously they intend to drip feed info running up to release.
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Even without the embargo seems you can only play BC games.
There is no option to play native Series X games.

They will probably release a patch to unlock that... it is safe too because if you have only a embargo then you should have random screen shots on tweet already.
 
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ethomaz said:
Evil Sony strikes again.

What a weird issue like Sony is paying MS to not show their own game footage lol
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:messenger_tears_of_joy: No. They just got lucky and more of the studios they had marketing agreements with had content ready to show. MS could show 2077, but the next-gen patch isn't ready, which would cause the showing to be inferior to what has been used to demonstrate DX12U. No conspiracy theories.

Sony is much more aggressive in the "marketing deals" space and always has been, it's easier for them to get content out because of that.
 
DaGwaphics said:
:messenger_tears_of_joy: No. They just got lucky and more of the studios they had marketing agreements with had content ready to show. MS could show 2077, but the next-gen patch isn't ready, which would cause the showing to be inferior to what has been used to demonstrate DX12U. No conspiracy theories.

Sony is much more aggressive in the "marketing deals" space and always has been, it's easier for them to get content out because of that.
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But Microsoft did show gameplay footage but that footage was running on a PC and not an XSX for the most part. Just saying that what was shown could have been shown on an XSX. Just like Sony is showing footage on the PS5.
 
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I'm not some Xbox hater.. it really is weird that MS hasn't shown anything on XSX, it's all been on PC.

I can't take anyone seriously who doesn't think that is odd.. it's not "marketing deals" because they've.. shown games, with "representative footage."
 
DaGwaphics said:
:messenger_tears_of_joy: No. They just got lucky and more of the studios they had marketing agreements with had content ready to show. MS could show 2077, but the next-gen patch isn't ready, which would cause the showing to be inferior to what has been used to demonstrate DX12U. No conspiracy theories.

Sony is much more aggressive in the "marketing deals" space and always has been, it's easier for them to get content out because of that.
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Why have all the games, with 1 exception, that Sony aligned themselves with been able to capture footage from a PS5?

RE Village, NBA2K, Call of Duty, Deathloop, Hitman, Project Athia, Ghostwire, Oddworld, Kena, Jett, Bugsnax, etc... all running on PS5. Only exception was FF16.

Why have we seen no footage of games at the Xbox shows, whether 1st party, or any 3rd party games like Madden or Assassins' Creed, captured on XSX?
 
MasterCornholio said:
But Microsoft did show gameplay footage but that footage was running on a PC and not an XSX for the most part. Just saying that what was shown could have been shown on an XSX. Just like Sony is showing footage on the PS5.
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The PC build and the console build aren't necessarily the same thing. A studio might have something on PC they can show because they can brute force to an acceptable FR etc. The same studio might not have their console build optimized enough yet, maybe it would stutter or just not run smooth enough, etc.
 
kyliethicc said:
Why have all the games, with 1 exception, that Sony aligned themselves with been able to capture footage from a PS5?

RE Village, NBA2K, Call of Duty, Deathloop, Hitman, Project Athia, Ghostwire, Oddworld, Kena, Jett, Bugsnax, etc... all running on PS5. Only exception was FF16.

Why have we seen no footage of games at the Xbox shows, whether 1st party, or any 3rd party games like Madden or Assassins' Creed, captured on XSX?
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Haven't devs had PS dev kits in some form for years now? That pays dividends without question.
 
DaGwaphics said:
Haven't devs had PS dev kits in some form for years now? That pays dividends without question.
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I'm actually going with what Digital Foundry heard from their sources. Basically some developers are having issues with the XSX dev kits while they don't have any issues with the PS5s. The reason why is because moving from an SDK to a GDK is making development tricky for some. While with PlayStation the PS5 dev kit offers a similar dev environment and the PS4s so they are not having any issues due to being already familiar with it.
 
MasterCornholio said:
I'm actually going with what Digital Foundry heard from their sources. Basically some developers are having issues with the XSX dev kits while they don't have any issues with the PS5s. The reason why is because moving from an SDK to a GDK is making development tricky for some. While with PlayStation the PS5 dev kit offers a similar dev environment and the PS4s so they are not having any issues due to being already familiar with it.
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GDK is not enough reason to convince me. Developers were able to show games on the infamous PS3 back in 2006. XsX is supposed to be way more easier to develop for.

Jason already mentioned last year that Microsoft was way behind in schedule.
 
mckmas8808 said:
Then the question is, why did MS take so long to get their dev kits out?
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This. However, it's not a new problem for them by any stretch of the imagination. MS has a history of coming in on fire with optimization getting done on launch titles at the very last minute. The biggest difference this time is they don't have first-party exclusives (or 2nd party titles from big devs like Crytek) that still find a way to have impact. Crytek really built a nice looking game, even if it is 720p.
 
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SirTerry-T said:
That's such a bullshit Twitter post. It's obvious that Sony and Marvel Studios want the video game Peter to better resemble Tom Holland. Makes perfect sense from a business and marketing P.O.V.
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From some reason, video game companies hate talking about the business side of gaming. So they cloak it behind "video game" like reasons.
 
X-Fighter said:
Source?
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After Craig's backlash, 343i came with that 'artistic vision' BS to justify what was shown, then they retracted and said they would make changes, just for MS to delay the game right after that. That's a really good sign they were ready to launch 'as is' if there were no memes nor complaints.
 
Nice thread from William Salyers (Octavius from Marvel's Spider-Man) about the Peter Parker face swap controversy:



His thread goes on for about 8 tweets explaining who he believes is the real Peter Parker/Spider-Man (Hint: It's not John Bubniak or Ben Jordan)
 
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DaGwaphics said:
Haven't devs had PS dev kits in some form for years now? That pays dividends without question.
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yeah I'm sure the NBA2K devs have had PS5 devkits since 2017, while the Madden devs just got an XSX devkit last month.

Come on, think. The excuses you make could explain SOME games being shown on PCs, just like FF16 was on PC not PS5. But all the games?

Imagine if all Sony had shown captured on PS5 so far was an random indie game like Bugsnax, an Uncharted 4 PS5 port, and a Dreams demo with some RT?

There's no reason why this is anything but fucking weird. Xbox announced their console in 2019. They showed it. They've planned this for years. There's no excuse. The box ships to the public in a month.
 
kyliethicc said:
yeah I'm sure the NBA2K devs have had PS5 devkits since 2017, while the Madden devs just got an XSX devkit last month.

Come on, think. The excuses you make could explain SOME games being shown on PCs, just like FF16 was on PC not PS5. But all the games?

Imagine if all Sony had shown captured on PS5 so far was an random indie game like Bugsnax, an Uncharted 4 PS5 port, and a Dreams demo with some RT?

There's no reason why this is anything but fucking weird. Xbox announced their console in 2019. They showed it. They've planned this for years. There's no excuse. The box ships to the public in a month.
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I'm not making excuses for anyone. In fact, I put the blame squarely on MS. They don't have strong first or second party efforts to show at launch, these are the devs that traditionally have earlier access to hardware, even on MS's tight schedules. We aren't seeing that this time, and it hurts the overall impression no question.
 
Killer Sakoman said:
This game has a story driven campaign?
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I thought the same thing. So far, everything else shown gave me the impression that it was like the first Destiny, and the story would be kind of secondary to the loot and gameplay. It's almost like they showed off all of the trailers in reverse of what they should have.
 
Two thibgs im hoping for ps5/ui

1- hoping fan noise is dead solnce
2 for the lobe of god the psn interface is too dayum sloa when engaged in games, my is be ause if the downloaded games i have but it annoys me sometimes
 
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