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Next Generation website is up
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How is that a "significantly better route"?? The 2 issues are not even related. One is the max res possible on the system, the other is the minimum required by the competition. Retard
Really? I had no idea we knew all about the RSX already! wheres the info??
Actually, the RSX is over (from what I understand 300 mill) and ~80 mill of the xenos is ram. So umm, ye.
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=124&Itemid=35
Huge amount of bs.
Chiggs
Gold Member
Doube D said:
Nevermind the fact that the Xenos uses unified ALU's, which basically means that transistor count isn't everything. So if you're trying to downplay the Xenos by using a "PS3 HAS 300 MILLION TRANSISTORS DEVOTED TO LOGIC!" argument... it's not even close to being accurate.
And pretty much everyone who has been following the PS3 should know by now that the RSX is going to be similar to the G70 part from Nvidia.
The article does has some pretty stupid factual errors, though.
Chiggs said:
Never mind the fact that most people say that unified ALU's represent a different design philosophy as opposed to a necessarily "better" philosophy. Never mind the fact that most of the people that "follow" the RSX admittedly know jack shit about it first hand and base everything on the fact that some dev kits have the nvidia G70s inside and or the nvidia exec said the rsx is based on a next gen nvidia design (which could be anything, including the g70). Never mind the fact that both sony and nvidia (you know, the official guys in charge of making the damn thing) have come out and said on multiple occasions that the RSX is intimately associated with the Cell....
Oh and I wasnt trying to downplay the transistor count of the xenos, but to imply that it has more logic than the rsx is pure bull.
Chiggs
Gold Member
Doube D said:
Well, what do you expect them to say - that their original plans for the RSX weren't fully realized, so they had to shove in a pc part with a few alterations (which is what a lot of people "in the know" are saying)?
But wait... Nvidia's been working with Sony since 1987, right?
Edit: One other thing, I do agree with you about the whole "just because Microsoft's using unified architecture doesn't necessarily mean it's best solution" thing, though. Time will have to tell.
Chiggs said:
Really? Do tell. Who are these people in the know that have been saying these things (other than team xbox members and ATi engineers)?? LOL No seriously, name names and give me some credentials. Beyond 3d nobodies don't count. I want real names, real credentials, and real quotes. Then you would have a point.
Chiggs
Gold Member
Doube D said:
Oh, and who are these people that are saying that the Nvidia part is intimately linked to the Cell and not just some pc part shoved in the system? Oh wait, Sony and Nvidia employees who wouldn't dare say anything other than the typical bullshit you'd expect from someone working on the project to say ( for example: OMG INTRICATE! OMG AMAZING DESIGN! OMG WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR YEARS!) You think I don't have a valid point? Well... right back at you, pal.
So, sorry that I can't provide with quotes from The International Unbiased Board of GPU/VPU Review, but it's not like you can do any better, really. Stalemate it is, then.
Chiggs said:
you are kidding me right? First off, following your logic, we should be pissing all over the xenos cause all the info on it has come from ATi. Official unbiased sources, in case you didn't know, include reputable technology web sites that do detailed reviews of hardware (with PUBLISHED BENCHMARKS TO BACKUP THEIR CLAIMS), without having to sign a half dozen NDAs and have their work proof read by the very companies whose products they critique. These include Toms Hardware, Anandtech.... Since these sites are as of yet unable to analyze the rsx/xenos, we have to rely on the manufacture for the details. Thus ATi/ms is suitable for providing xenos info and nvidia/sony the RSX. This however does not mean you take ATi's word on what nvidia has to offer and vice versa (FOR OBVIOUS REASONS).
Wow, that derailed rather quickly.
Anyway, I've missed Next Generation (online and print) since the day they shut down. And while Daily Radar was kind of hit or miss (uh, no pun intended if you know their rating system), I was diappointed when that site shut down too.
Cheers for their return.
Anyway, I've missed Next Generation (online and print) since the day they shut down. And while Daily Radar was kind of hit or miss (uh, no pun intended if you know their rating system), I was diappointed when that site shut down too.
Cheers for their return.
100Bullets
Member
Truelize said:
I don't think so it is just the site for now.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Loved that damn mag. Glad at least I can get a fix from a site though. As long as it keeps the standard the mag set, I will be fine.
Chiggs
Gold Member
Doube D said:
Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. Thank you for not taking things to the extreme.
Edit: Smartass comments aside, lets not derail this any further. I think we can both agree to take a grain of salt along with whatever Sony and Microsoft feed us until both machines are out for suitable analysis, etc.
That said, I still maintain that RSX will be similar to the G70. Mock me if I'm wrong; acknowledge me if I'm right. I'll be sure to do the same for you.
midnightguy
Member
Next-Generation Online was such an awesome news site in the late 1990s. I miss it so much.
where did we first hear about real (not rumored) plans for Sega's last home videogame console? Next Generation Online.
where did we first hear about real (not rumored) plans for Sega's last home videogame console? Next Generation Online.
Community Forum
Member
Awesome... simply awesome!
Finally !!!!!
A fucking website written BY ADULTS FOR ADULTS that has some actual usefull and well written information.
Take note IGN. This is how you do a news website. Having a 19 year old publish mailbag letters that are handpicked to showcase his ability to insult people and be funny only to himself and those working in the same office... just doesn't quite cut it.
A fucking website written BY ADULTS FOR ADULTS that has some actual usefull and well written information.
Take note IGN. This is how you do a news website. Having a 19 year old publish mailbag letters that are handpicked to showcase his ability to insult people and be funny only to himself and those working in the same office... just doesn't quite cut it.
Red Scarlet
Member
Fatalah said:
Oh yeah, GA has a site.
nextgeneration
Member
Agree wholeheartedly. Nice to have a mature publication that doesn't have to resort to immature tactics to lure readers.
AWESOME,AWESOME,AWESOME,the return of Next Generation..
The magazine had such a bold and professional way of laying down the latest news,I really hope they have alot of interviews as they were once known for. Stuff like Yu Suzuki breaking down how Saturn development was like use to be incredibly satisfying to read,I hope we get some of that type of reporting once again.
Btw-isn't there also suppose to be either a GameFan web site or magazine returning? I read this in another forum about a month and a half ago. Was I just dreaming this or what,I hope not.
The magazine had such a bold and professional way of laying down the latest news,I really hope they have alot of interviews as they were once known for. Stuff like Yu Suzuki breaking down how Saturn development was like use to be incredibly satisfying to read,I hope we get some of that type of reporting once again. Btw-isn't there also suppose to be either a GameFan web site or magazine returning? I read this in another forum about a month and a half ago. Was I just dreaming this or what,I hope not.
Agent Dormer
Dirty Drinking Smoker
My article should be going up as soon as Square JPN PR gets back to meeee.
RaymondCarver
Member
This reminds me that my subscription to Edge is about to run out....
Tenacious-V
Thinks his PR is better than yours.
Doube D said:
Geeez dude calm down, quite the hostility you have built up. ATi already clarified the core tranny count of Xenos, it's 337Million total. 257million Core (including logic in the eDRam module) and 80 million for 10MB eDRAM.
And as stated RSX is a G70 with modified inputs. The "it's not done part" would most likely be NV respinning the core to get it to 550Mhz for PS3 launch. It is a G70, it's become official today. My take on the situation is that RSX wasn't revealed because it would have jeopardized the stats of G70 and fundamentally given Ati a free G70 spec sheet months ahead of time. But now that G70 is officially launched, RSX specs appear right with them.. Coincidence? Hellz no......
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