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NFL 2015 Week 11 |OT| - A Fraud‘s Time

boiled goose

good with gravy
Props to rex ryan for crazy defensive schemes. Awesome coverage and demolished oline with 3 man rush.

Bills defense and Butler best of the game. Pats defense overall was solid too.
 
The forward progress clock rules, explained also by Football Outsiders:

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/extra-points/2012/officiating-forward-progress-vs-out-bounds

Why is Leslie Frazier waving his arms like a madman?
MIN 20 at DET 13, Lions' third-and-12 from DET 37, :09 fourth quarter
M.Stafford pass short right to B.Pettigrew pushed ob at DET 44 for 6 yards.
Ultimately this play didn't affect the end of the game, but it highlights an important concept for spotting and clock management. Brandon Pettigrew catches the ball and runs forward for a yard before being hit by Chris Cook backward by a yard and out of bounds. The wing official moves up to the spot where progress ended, and kills the clock. Immediately thereafter, Leslie Frazier is seen running up and down the sidelines giving a "run the clock" signal and shouting at the officials.
Frazier was correct. Pettigrew's forward progress ended at the Detroit 44-yard line. Subsequent force by Cook knocked him backward and out of bounds. By spotting the ball at the 44-yard line and killing the clock, the official gave the Lions the benefit of forward progress (the favorable spot) without the drawback (a running clock after a dead ball in-bounds) and vice-versa for the out-of-bounds spot.

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Refs should have reviewed it though and explained it.
*edit*
of if he's not touched that's not something I noticed
 

squicken

Member
@JJMcIntosh: @MikePereira yes but isn't it the rule that if you go backwards out of bounds you wind the clock?

@MikePereira: @JJMcIntosh >>Makes no difference if you are not touched

Okay that makes sense. Officials dropped the ball there, but they had a brutal night, so not surprised
 

eznark

Banned
The forward progress clock rules, explained also by Football Outsiders:

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/extra-points/2012/officiating-forward-progress-vs-out-bounds

Why is Leslie Frazier waving his arms like a madman?
MIN 20 at DET 13, Lions' third-and-12 from DET 37, :09 fourth quarter
M.Stafford pass short right to B.Pettigrew pushed ob at DET 44 for 6 yards.
Ultimately this play didn't affect the end of the game, but it highlights an important concept for spotting and clock management. Brandon Pettigrew catches the ball and runs forward for a yard before being hit by Chris Cook backward by a yard and out of bounds. The wing official moves up to the spot where progress ended, and kills the clock. Immediately thereafter, Leslie Frazier is seen running up and down the sidelines giving a "run the clock" signal and shouting at the officials.
Frazier was correct. Pettigrew's forward progress ended at the Detroit 44-yard line. Subsequent force by Cook knocked him backward and out of bounds. By spotting the ball at the 44-yard line and killing the clock, the official gave the Lions the benefit of forward progress (the favorable spot) without the drawback (a running clock after a dead ball in-bounds) and vice-versa for the out-of-bounds spot.

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Refs should have reviewed it though and explained it.

Who hit Watkins?
 

LJ11

Member
Props to rex ryan for crazy defensive schemes. Awesome coverage and demolished oline with 3 man rush.

Bills defense and Butler best of the game. Pats defense overall was solid too.

On the TD throw to White late in the half Rex got instant pressure with just 4 rushers.

He's not a good HC, he should just go coordinate, every now and again his D stinks the joint up, but man get some sick stuff from him. There was some 3 deep cloud coverage in in the first half that Brady just said wtf and smashed the ball in the dirt.
 

squicken

Member
He's not a good HC, he should just go coordinate, every now and again his D stinks the joint up, but man get some sick stuff from him. There was some 3 deep cloud coverage in in the first half that Brady just said wtf and smashed the ball in the dirt.

It's so frustrating b/c Brady knows he never has to force a throw. Always another day to live for against a Rex offense. It's what made that Brady INT so bizarre.
 

Arc

Member
Just left the stadium. I'm surprised the crowd seemed quiet on tv, it was one of the louder Gillette crowds I've been in. Especially during all of the officiating fuckery.
 
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