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NFL 2017 Training Camp/Preseason |OT| - If you don't like it, you should have made it

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LJ11

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silkysmooth said:
Bills now have 2 picks in each of the first three rounds of 2018 draft.
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They're also a lock to lose a minimum of 10 games.

Edit: Darby will bounce back. He's a great force/run defender. Last year he was in a man heavy scheme and was roasted because he didnt have much help. In a zone heavy two deep scheme like the Eagles use he'll bounce back. Plus he's cost controlled.
 
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Zeke

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Officerrob said:
Brown's wife and local law enforcement did not cooperate with the NFL's investigation. The Brown suspension is a joke, but it's not as cut and dry as you state
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And zeke showed his ex was trying to set him up hell Elliott cooperated with the investigation and charges were thrown out because of "conflicting and inconsistent" info. Its a bullshit suspension. Big Ben didn't even get six games for his sexual allegations and his case was thrown out too.
 
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Zeke said:
Oh fuck Roger Goodell. So they are suspending Elliott on DV with him actually never being charged and knowing his ex lied about it.
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Zeke said:
If zeke played for the giants this would have been a one game susepnsion.
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Zeke said:
Yea punishing and suspending a player that was never charged and had proof showing his ex was lying about the situation is totally going to make the NFL look better.
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shiftplusone said:
" We have no evidence of 3 things we're holding against him, and he showed a girls titty once"

If he admitted to actually doing anything, would he have only gotten 1 game like Josh Brown?
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Zeke said:
Uh we knew last year he didn't do a damn thing and his ex was setting him up.
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After seeing Mack Hollins play so naturally last night I think he should be the slot guy, frankly. He's a big dude too. I liked Jordan Matthews and thought he was a little above average, but he was on the last year of his contract and did play a super major role in the offense. I think it's a good trade on both sides frankly.

Excited to have a real CB and it should make the defense way better.
 
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Jordan Matthews accomplishments as an Eagle:

He ranks first in receptions (225) and third in receiving yards (2,673) among all-time Eagles in their first three years, and is one of only five players in NFL history with 65-plus receptions and 800-plus receiving yards in each of their first three seasons. The other four? Randy Moss, Odell Beckham Jr., Mike Evans and A.J. Green.

I can see why howie didnt want to resign him.
 
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Striker said:
Eagles defense is going to be great. Nice to have Engram and BMarsh but it won't mean shit if Cox, Jernigan and Co destroy the line.
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Great? The secondary is still a huge question mark. Darby is one starter but who starts opposite him? Rookie 3rd round pick Douglas? 7th round pick Mills from 2 seasons ago? Garbage VET CB Robinson?

Hopefully one of those guys steps up. Would love to see Mills and Douglas actually become real players but against one is a 7th round pick and the other is a rookie who isn't known for his speed.

They also have very thin depth at LB. Their D can be decent because they have a great Dline and two really good safeties but considering they will face Dez, OBJ and Marshall, and Pryor 2x each - they are in for a long season.
 
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Zeke said:
And zeke showed his ex was trying to set him up hell Elliott cooperated with the investigation and charges were thrown out because of "conflicting and inconsistent" info. Its a bullshit suspension. Big Ben didn't even get six games for his sexual allegations and his case was thrown out too.
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Ben was before Ray Rice, different world
 
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effzee said:
Great? The secondary is still a huge question mark. Darby is one starter but who starts opposite him? Rookie 3rd round pick Douglas? 7th round pick Mills from 2 seasons ago? Garbage VET CB Robinson?

Hopefully one of those guys steps up. Would love to see Mills and Douglas actually become real players but against one is a 7th round pick and the other is a rookie who isn't known for his speed.

They also have very thin depth at LB. Their D can be decent because they have a great Dline and two really good safeties but considering they will face Dez, OBJ and Marshall, and Pryor 2x each - they are in for a long season.
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I thought Mills had pretty good coverage yesterday actually.
 
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AbortedWalrusFetus said:
I thought Mills had pretty good coverage yesterday actually.
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preseason, no Aaron Rodgers, ....


I do wonder if Kendricks next. He was the other Eagle long rumored to be traded and even asked for it. His situation is different though considering they are thin at LB and wouldn't be getting a better LB in return.
 
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effzee

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I wonder Carson Wentz feels. Apparently, he is super close with J. Mathews. Both went to the same Church and worshipped together.

Alshon better be in chuch with Wentz on Sunday.
 
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AbortedWalrusFetus

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effzee said:
preseason, no Aaron Rodgers, ....


I do wonder if Kendricks next. He was the other Eagle long rumored to be traded and even asked for it. His situation is different though considering they are thin at LB and wouldn't be getting a better LB in return.
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Hundley is better than some starting QBs in this league IMO. You're generally right though.
 
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effzee said:
Probably reduced to 4 or even 2 games after an appeal.

Say its even all 6 games, they play in order the Giants, Broncos, Cardinals, Rams, Packers, and 49ers.

At worst I see them going 3-3.
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I can see 4. Goodell won't let it go down to 2 since he will be hearing/involve in the case
 
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yankeehater

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Ronald Darby gave up 7 passes of 30 yards or more last year, and QBs had a rating of 101.5 when targeting him last year. He was really good as a rookie though so who knows, but Matthews was definitely the more reliable player. I am really surprised that the Eagles had to include a 3rd to get this deal done.
 
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yankeehater said:
Ronald Darby gave up 7 passes of 30 yards or more last year, and QBs had a rating of 101.5 when targeting him last year. He was really good as a rookie though so who knows, but Matthews was definitely the more reliable player. I am really surprised that the Eagles had to include a 3rd to get this deal done.
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No one is going to take a one year rental on Matthews for their starting CB
 
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AbortedWalrusFetus said:
Hundley is better than some starting QBs in this league IMO. You're generally right though.
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I still remember him from college. I don't get how he fell that hard. His Oline during his last year at UCLA was offensive (he was put on his ass 10 times against Utah, I remember that in particular).

Lee Chaolan said:
lol. and everyone was hating on the Browns for not drafting Watkins.
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BigAT said:
The Browns drafted Justin Gilbert instead. Sammy Watkins disappointing, injury plagued career is Hall of Fame level next to what the Browns got instead.
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This.. lets not toot our own horn about this Lee.

Also remember we did the same thing for Julio Jones and we know how that turned out
 
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jmizzal

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Zeke deserves that suspension, while he was under investigation he still goes and beats the crap out of a guy at a bar.

I think it will be lowered to 3 or 4 games tho
 
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Zeke

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jmizzal said:
Zeke deserves that suspension, while he was under investigation he still goes and beats the crap out of a guy at a bar.

I think it will be lowered to 3 or 4 games tho
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Show me the proof of this alleged beating. Police reports and eyewitness reports will do.
 
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Doominated

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The bills trades make sense for them. Yeah getting rid of Watkins sounds dumb on the surface, but they didn't sign his rookie option, this is his last year on his rookie contract, and they're very clearly going nowhere this year + have a rookie head coach. Watkins was either gone in FA or he was going to be a massive investment coming off 1 year of good play. Too much of a risk for a team going nowhere, especially since they just drafted a WR in the second round this year.

They're stacked with picks, so they have some draft capital plus they're realistically a 5 win team this year now. They've been "mediocre" for way too long with no playoff potential. Best to just start a fresh rebuild.

I like the Watkins move for the rams too. Gotta build around the #1 pick no matter what. If Goff manages to breakout that could be a fringe playoff team, all depends on how he plays.

If Darby manages to bounce back it'll be a good pickup for the eagles. Worse trades have been made tbh.
 
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Darkman M

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I say he gets maybe 3-4 on the appeal, dude has made some bonehead desecions, but the NFL found some things the law couldn't? Ok... If Sammy can ever stay healthy this could be good for the Rams 👍
 
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Beach

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Nemesis121 said:
With Watkins gone, they just set up Tyrod to fail, Bills should trade him too and just go full tank mode..
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Bills can win 5 games on their Oline and Shady alone. That said, the 6 games they will win will give them a good range to trade for whatever QB they want next year. They're thinking a year ahead and can't blame them.
 
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