actually, nintendo has been, and is expanding. notably, some studios in ead and monolithsoft. and retro as well, although that may just be for one game.
Yep, if both of these studios don't have game releases this holiday season I don't know what the hell is going to sell the Wii U.
I think Wonderful 101 is going through some pretty significant development changes. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't hear anything about it until after E3.
I think a lot of the disappointment stems from release time frame. Pikmin 3 and Luigis mansion were expected early next year and we've yet to get exact release dates other than them being pushed farther back. On top of other titles like animal crossing and wonderful 101 which were expected sooner rather than laterThose of you who say Nintendo should stop doing Nintendo Directs probably need to stop hyping yourselves up and lower those expectations.
I mean even the twitter feed announcing the ND said "currently announced".
How then do you read that any differently to mean "there will be new announcements"?
The way some of you react tells me you treat ND's like an E3 conference. When you should just look at it as extra coverage of content already announced.
Does no one remember E3 this year they also used the ND as a retread to give more info and a closer look at stuff. That's the purpose of ND's.
Those of you who say Nintendo should stop doing Nintendo Directs probably need to stop hyping yourselves up and lower those expectations.
I mean even the twitter feed announcing the ND said "currently announced".
How then do you read that any differently to mean "there will be new announcements"?
The way some of you react tells me you treat ND's like an E3 conference. When you should just look at it as extra coverage of content already announced.
Does no one remember E3 this year they also used the ND as a retread to give more info and a closer look at stuff. That's the purpose of ND's.
That is a totally awesome cover
I think a lot of the disappointment stems from release time frame. Pikmin 3 and Luigis mansion were expected early next year and we've yet to get exact release dates other than them being pushed farther back. On top of other titles like animal crossing and wonderful 101 which were expected sooner rather than later
I don't think people expect any big announcements.
I think it's just that the lineup is pretty weak at the moment to many people and highlighting it highlights that fact, leading to disappointment/concern. Especially since some of the bigger news on the Wii U side is Pikmin delay.
I didn't think wiis was that bad. There was like a million seller released every month. Wario ware-January, Wii play- February, super paper Mario- march/April, Mario party- may, Re4-June and then in the fall there was metroid prime 3, battalion wars, resident evil umbrella chronicles, super Mario strikers and super Mario galaxy. I believe all of these were released in a year time frame. On top of that Wii sports, twilight princess and excite truck were launch titles that had more longevity than nintendoland and nsmb. Wii releases I thought were steady until after Mario kart released in mid 2008. That's when severe game droughts for nearly half a year started to occur.People are going to flip out, but honestly the first year of every Nintendo console since the N64 has been pretty barren. The DS had nothing but like Meteos & a sub-par Mario 64 port until Nintendogs & Advance Wars hit 9 months later. Same with the Wii, GC, etc.
The Wii U is seeing an avalanche of support by comparison, I think it's got more worthwhile stuff at launch than many other Nintendo systems had in their first year. So I'm good with them taking the time to get it right, especially after the backlash they've had from negative comparisons with other systems and accusations of same-iness towards Mario, etc.
Luigi's Mansion cover
Hai, NiN logo!
I didn't think wiis was that bad. There was like a million seller released every month. Wario ware-January, Wii play- February, super paper Mario- march/April, Mario party- may, Re4-June and then in the fall there was metroid prime 3, battalion wars, resident evil umbrella chronicles, super Mario strikers and super Mario galaxy. I believe all of these were released in a year time frame. On top of that Wii sports, twilight princess and excite truck were launch titles that had more longevity than nintendoland and nsmb. Wii releases I thought were steady until after Mario kart released in mid 2008. That's when severe game droughts for nearly half a year started to occur.
All I was looking for was release dates of already announced games. The most hopeful part of me was thinking maybe they'd mention DQX coming west. But I wasn't getting my hopes up for that. My standards were as low as they can be. There is no point to these Directs if all it's doing is restating what happened at E3 and prior Nintendo Directs.Those of you who say Nintendo should stop doing Nintendo Directs probably need to stop hyping yourselves up and lower those expectations.
I mean even the twitter feed announcing the ND said "currently announced".
How then do you read that any differently to mean "there will be new announcements"?
The way some of you react tells me you treat ND's like an E3 conference. When you should just look at it as extra coverage of content already announced.
Does no one remember E3 this year they also used the ND as a retread to give more info and a closer look at stuff. That's the purpose of ND's.
Luigi's Mansion cover
Hai, NiN logo!
Nice design, but the colors are too saturated and too much black. Hope that's not intentional.
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I know usually the 1st year for Nintendo hardware is barren but wasnt Nintendo prior to release talking about getting 3rd parties onboard.
I was hoping that multi plat games would hit the Wii U aswell as standard procedure.
I think most Wii owners were busy with Zelda TP too in the launch window don't forget.We don't know what the U has after like April. Compare your post to the list of Wii U games in just the first 5-6 months that people are already complaining about. People aren't saddled with Red Steel & Excite Truck this time around.
So what you're saying is
they should have announced less stuff at e3 2012
Nintendo Direct fatigue? Understandable.
Although I'm not sure what people expexted from the new Direct. It was pretty obvious we wouldn't get a lot of new details (I'm just happy with Fire Emblem being confirmed for April next year) but I'm wondering what will happen with the Wii U next April through June. The only game confirmed for release is Injustice.
Edit; lol what the hell Reggie
Well of course it is.
Lol, well yeah. Sorta.
At least not announce things as launch or "launch window" when it's clearly not going to make it. Gives some people false hype, evidently
Mini-Nintendo Direct JP coming in just under 2 hours, will be very short. I'll translate.
Mini-Nintendo Direct JP coming in just under 2 hours, will be very short. I'll translate.
Topic?
[岩田]本日もご覧いただき、ありがとうございました。今回は「レゴ岩田」となり、日本人の私が、自分の英語音声にあわせて制作してもらった映像に、後から自分で日本語をアフレコするという、不思議な体験でした
カメラ付きヘルメットを被った姿がみなさんからどう見えるのか、撮影中は自覚していませんでしたが、確かに、ふつうの社長は、こういうことしないでしょうね。
Topic?
Except Miyamoto said after pikmin 2 released he knew how pikmin 3 would be. Then in 2008 they've been talking about it being in development. It'll be 9 years since Miyamoto first talked about it and 5 years since it was announced when we actually get it.If Pikmin 3 comes out in Japan before October 2014 it will still be faster than Animal Crossing: New Leaf between first footage and release.
Nice design, but the colors are too saturated and too much black. Hope that's not intentional.
Yeah, it's definitely not supposed to be like that. The image looks like the saturation/contrast have been blown sky high. The actual cover should look more like the GC one.But that one doesn't have that problem. There actually midtones so that you can make out the background.
Except Miyamoto said after pikmin 2 released he knew how pikmin 3 would be. Then in 2008 they've been talking about it being in development. It'll be 9 years since Miyamoto first talked about it and 5 years since it was announced when we actually get it.
I don't think it's about covering titles people want, but about bringing something new in the mix. The trailer for Pikmin 3 for instance was pretty pleasing, eShop games finally receiving a western release, some "real" dates on games Luigi's Mansion DM and Fire Emblem. Those were new, quick little tidbits which will keep fans satisfied.It's weird, actually. Nintendo Direct always deliver what it wants to deliver (covering titles for this holiday, a preview of what to come in the few months, etc). It's just people are flipping out when titles of their choice got no mention, making the directs seem like an event of overpromise and underdelivering.
"Nintendo should stop doing these directs" is even weirder. Here is one channel where Nintendo can communicate select titles for a basically low cost advertising and people want it to stop because it doesn't cover titles of their choice. Nintendo's not making this exclusively for GAF.
It's weird, actually. Nintendo Direct always deliver what it wants to deliver (covering titles for this holiday, a preview of what to come in the few months, etc). It's just people are flipping out when titles of their choice got no mention, making the directs seem like an event of overpromise and underdelivering.
"Nintendo should stop doing these directs" is even weirder. Here is one channel where Nintendo can communicate select titles for a basically low cost advertising and people want it to stop because it doesn't cover titles of their choice. Nintendo's not making this exclusively for GAF.
What is it like 15 mins or something?Mini-Nintendo Direct JP coming in just under 2 hours, will be very short. I'll translate.
Yea this is a pretty reasonable post.It's weird, actually. Nintendo Direct always deliver what it wants to deliver (covering titles for this holiday, a preview of what to come in the few months, etc). It's just people are flipping out when titles of their choice got no mention, making the directs seem like an event of overpromise and underdelivering.
"Nintendo should stop doing these directs" is even weirder. Here is one channel where Nintendo can communicate select titles for a basically low cost advertising and people want it to stop because it doesn't cover titles of their choice. Nintendo's not making this exclusively for GAF.
I don't think it's about covering titles people want, but about bringing something new in the mix. The trailer for Pikmin 3 for instance was pretty pleasing, eShop games finally receiving a western release, some "real" dates on games Luigi's Mansion DM and Fire Emblem. Those were new, quick little tidbits which will keep fans satisfied.
The thing is, those titles (well not all of them) have been teased ever since 2011 and I believe some posters are absolutely done with those games being featured again in a Nintendo Direct. I can understand being a bit peeved at Nintendo. According to EatChildren's summary there is so much we don't know... and the worst of it all we have no clue what Nintendo has in store for us poor enthousiasts sans Bayonetta 2 and I guess Smash Bros 4.
Beginning of 2013 will be hard on Nintendo fans.
And Monolith Soft's Wii U game
Remember, Xenoblade was released 2010 in Japan, so it's entirely possible that it'll be out by next holiday with a ~3 year dev cycle.
I think we know, in very general terms, what is likely coming beyond March (3D Mario, Smash, 3DS Zelda, Friend Collection, Luigi's Mansion, Monolith 3DS game, Monolith Wii U game, Retro's game, 'Yoshi's Land' (maybe), Wii Sports U, Jam with the Band, Pokemon Gen 6, Bayonetta, Pikmin etc etc) it's just very hard without footage and release dates.
If Pikmin 3 comes out in Japan before October 2014 it will still be faster than Animal Crossing: New Leaf between first footage and release.
US 1st party lineups within the first 7.5 months for comparison:People are going to flip out, but honestly the first year of every Nintendo console since the N64 has been pretty barren. The DS had nothing but like Meteos & a sub-par Mario 64 port until Nintendogs & Advance Wars hit 9 months later. Same with the Wii, GC, etc.
I know, but I'm not sure the end result will be large enough to significantly boost output. Especially given the fact that the Wii U is a significant leap in tech and will require some expansion just to maintain the current level. If the expansion had been sufficiently large and happened during the boom years we could have already been seeing the results now.
In any case, I have to wait for e3 before truly saying stuff like this.
Posting this just for my own reference later lol:
Software Development Group No. 1
Nintendogs, DS (April 21, 2005)
Mario Kart, DS (November 14, 2005)
Mario Kart Wii, Wii (April 10, 2008)
Nintendogs + Cats, 3DS (February 26, 2011)
Mario Kart 7, 3DS (December 1, 2011)
Speculation: Mario Kart U-Turn, Wii U (November 2013)
Software Development Group No. 2
Animal Crossing: Wild World, DS (November 23, 2005)
Star Fox Command, DS (July 14, 2006) *with Q-Games
Wii Sports, Wii (November 19, 2006)
Wii Play, Wii (December 2, 2006)
Wii Music, Wii (October 16, 2008)
Animal Crossing: City Folk, Wii (November 16, 2008)
Wii Sports Resort, Wii (June 25, 2009)
Animal Crossing: New Leaf, 3DS (November 8, 2012)
Nintendo Land, Wii U (November 18, 2012)
Speculation: Nintendo Land: New Attractions, Wii U eShop (2013)
Software Development Group No. 3
The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures, GCN (March 18, 2004)
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, GCN/Wii (November 19, 2006)
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, DS (June 23, 2007)
Link's Crossbow Training, Wii (November 19, 2007)
The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks, DS (December 7, 2009)
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, Wii (November 18, 2011)
Speculation: New Legend of Zelda, 3DS (2013)
Untitled The Legend of Zelda Game, Wii U (2014-2015)
Software Development Group No. 4
Super Mario 64 DS, DS (November 21, 2004)
Yoshi Touch & Go, DS (January 27, 2005)
Big Brain Academy, (June 30, 2005)
New Super Mario Bros., DS (May 15, 2006)
Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree, Wii (April 26, 2007)
New Play Control! Pikmin, Wii (December 25, 2008)
New Play Control! Pikmin 2, Wii (March 15, 2009)
New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Wii (November 12, 2009)
New Super Mario Bros. 2, 3DS (July 28, 2012)
New Super Mario Bros. U, Wii U (November 18, 2012)
Pikmin 3, Wii U (TBA 2013)
Software Development Group No. 5
Wii Fit, Wii (December 1, 2007)
Wii Fit Plus, Wii (October 1, 2009)
Steel Diver, 3DS (March 27, 2011) *with Vitei
Star Fox 64 3D, 3DS (July 14, 2011) *with Q-Games
Wii Fit U, Wii U (TBA 2013)
Tokyo Development Group No. 1 (EAD1)
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat, GCN (December 16, 2004)
Super Mario Galaxy, Wii (November 1, 2007)
Jibun de Tsukuru Nintendo DS Guide, DSi (November 17, 2010)
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D, 3DS (June 16, 2011) *with Grezzo
The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Anniversary Edition, DSiWare (September 28, 2011) *with Grezzo
Speculation: The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 3D, 3DS (2013) *with Grezzo
Speculation: Super Mario Universe, Wii U (2014)
Tokyo Development Group No. 2 (EAD2)
Flipnote Studio, DSiWare (December 24, 2008)
New Play Control: Donkey Kong Jungle Beat, Wii (December 11, 2008)
Super Mario Galaxy 2, Wii (May 23, 2010)
Super Mario 3D Land, 3DS (November 3, 2011) *with Brownie Brown
Speculation: Yoshi's 3D Island, 3DS (2013)
Sora Ltd.
Meteos, DS (2005) *with Q-Entertainment
Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Wii (2008) *with MonolithSoft, and Game Arts
Kid Icarus: Uprising, 3DS (March 2012) *as Project Sora
Super Smash Bros. 4, 3DS & Wii U (2013-4?) *with Namco-Bandai
Retro Studios
Metroid Prime, GCN (2002)
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes, GCN (2004)
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Wii (2007)
Metroid Prime: Trilogy, Wii (2009)
Donkey Kong Country Returns, Wii (November 2010)
Mario Kart 7, 3DS (December 2011) *retro courses and assets development
Speculation:
Nd Cube (with Hudson Soft)
F-Zero Maximum Velocity, GBA (2001)
Mario Party series 1-8 (1997-2008)
Wii Party, Wii (November 2010)
Mario Party 9, Wii (March 2012)
Speculation: Mario Party X, Wii U (2014)
Monolith Soft (not listed here: 11 Namco-Bandai published titles 2002-2010 incl. Xenosaga, Super Robot Taisen, Baten Kaitos)
Baten Kaitos Origins, GCN (2006) *with tri-Crescendo
Soma Bringer, DS (2008)
Disaster: Day of Crisis, Wii (2008)
Xenoblade Chronicles, Wii (2010)
Project X Zone, 3DS (October 2012)
Untitled 3DS game (TBA)
Untitled Wii U game (TBA)
Intelligent Systems
WarioWare: Smooth Moves, Wii (2006)
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn, Wii (2007)
Super Paper Mario, Wii (2007)
Light Speed Card Battle: Card Hero, DS (2007)
Planet Puzzle League, DS (2007)
Advance Wars: Days of Ruin/Dark Conflict, DS (2008)
Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon, DS (2008)
WarioWare: Snapped!, DSiWare (2008)
WarioWare D.I.Y., DS (2009)
WarioWare D.I.Y. Showcase, WiiWare (2009)
Eco Shooter: Plant 530, WiiWare (2009)
Dragon Quest Wars, DSiWare (2009)
Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem: Heroes of Light and Shadow (Remake), DS (2010)
Link 'n' Launch, DSiWare (2010)
Spotto!, DSiWare (2010)
Pushmo/Pullblox, 3DS eShop (October, 2011)
Fire Emblem: Awakening, 3DS (April, 2012)
Paper Mario: Sticker Star, 3DS (November 2012)
Crashmo/Fallblox, 3DS eShop (November, 2012)
Game & Wario, Wii U (2013)
Speculation: Pushmo 3, Wii U (2013)
Speculation: Fire Emblem: U, Wii U (2014)
HAL Laboratory
Kirby Canvas Curse, DS (2005)
Kirby Squeak Squad, DS (2006) *with Flagship
Kirby Super Star Ultra, DS (2008)
Picross 3D, DS (2009)
Face Pilot, DSiWare (2010)
Kirby Mass Attack, DS (August 2011) *with Engines
Face Raiders, 3DSware (February 2011)
Kirby's Return to Dream Land, Wii (October 2011)
Kirby's Dream Collection, Wii (July 2012)
Speculation: Untitled Kirby 3D Game, Wii U (2013?)
Good-Feel (not listed here: six JP-only educational games)
Wario Land: Shake It!, Wii (2008)
Kirby's Epic Yarn, Wii (October, 2010)
3D Hidden Picture, DSiWare(?) (TBA)
Wii Play: Motion (2 mini-games), Wii (June 2011)
Speculation: New Wario Land Game
AlphaDream (not listed here: 7 JP-only puzzle-adventure games)
Mario & Luigi 1, GBA (2003)
Mario & Luigi 2, DS (2005)
Mario & Luigi 3, DS (2009)
Speculation: Untitled Mario RPG? (2013?)
Camelot Software Planning (not listed here: many others in the Mario Golf/Tennis/Golden Sun series)
Mario Golf: Advance Tour, GBA (2004)
We Love Golf!, Wii (2007)
Golden Sun: Dark Dawn, DS (2010)
Mario Tennis Open, 3DS (2012)
Speculation: Mario Golf U, Wii U (2014)
Jupiter Corp. (significant/recent titles listed only)
Picross DS, DS (2007)
The World Ends With You/It's a Wonderful World (JP), DS (2007) *with Square Enix
Picross e, 3DS eShop (2011)
Picross e2, 3DS eShop (2012)
Speculation: The World Ends With U, Wii U (2014)
Monster Games (significant/recent titles listed only)
Excite Truck, Wii (2006)
Excitebots: Trick Racing, Wii (2009)
Excitebike: World Rally, WiiWare (2011)
Pilotwings Resort, 3DS (2011)
Speculation: WaveRace Resort, 3DS (2013)
Next Level Games (significant/recent titles listed only)
Super Mario Strikers, GCN (2005)
Mario Strikers Charged, Wii (2007)
Punch-Out!!, Wii (2009)
Doc Louis's Punch-Out!!, WiiWare (2009)
Transformers: Cybertron Adventures, Wii (June 2010)
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon, Wii (2010)
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon, 3DS (2013)
N-Space (significant/recent titles listed only)
Heroes of Ruin, 3DS (2012)
RollerCoaster Tycoon, 3DS (2012)
Skylanders: Giants, 3DS (2012) *port only
Heroes of Ruin 2, 3DS (2014)
Kuju Entertainment (significant/recent titles listed only)
The House of the Dead: Overkill, Wii (2009)
Art Academy, DS (20092010)
[...]
New Art Academy, 3DS (2012)
Rabbids Rumble, 3DS (2012)
???
Treasure (significant/recent titles listed only)
Sin & Punishment: Star Successor (2009, Nintendo, Wii)
various XBox Live games (2011-12)
???
Pokémon developers - Game Freak / Ambrella / Creatures Inc. / Genius Sonority / other The Pokémon Company developers
Pokémon Snap, N64 (1999, VC 2009)
Pokémon Stadium, GCN (2000)
[...]
PokéPark Wii: Pikachu's Adventure, Wii (2009)
Pokémon Rumble, WiiWare (2009)
Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs, DS (2010)
Pokémon Black and White, DS (2010)
Pokémon Rumble Blast, 3DS (2011)
PokéPark 2: Wonders Beyond, Wii (2011)
Learn with Pokémon: Typing Adventure (2011)
Pokémon Black 2 and White 2, DS (2012)
Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Magnagate and the Infinite Labyrinth, 3DS (2012)
Rhythm Hunter: HarmoKnight, 3DS (2012)
???
Developers not listed: Noise, Paon, Skip Ltd., Brownie Brown