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Nintendo Switch Discussion Thread (Question of the Day, Countdown, etc)
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TheMoon
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Realize they're not cartridges. They're game cards. Like the one you use in your 3DS or Vita or DS (=essentially proprietary versions of SD Cards).
They won't affect game prices. Stop thinking SNES/N64 carts with $90 games.
Jerm411
Member
Right...just used cartridge because I didn't really know what else to say haha....
I thought they actually might bring the price down, I didn't know....
There haven't been leaks about how the production costs of the cards stand up to the cost of a Blu-Ray. However, its a safe assumption that they are higher, but low enough that it doesn't wipe out the benefits of a Game Card (size, I/O speed, resiliency, ect).
TheMoon
Member
Can't even blame you when even the press doesn't get basic shit like this right and spreads wrong terminology all the time
Can't even blame you when even the press doesn't get basic shit like this right and spreads wrong terminology all the time
Eh, its nomenclature. Its still a ROM Cartridge, so the use of the term is fine. Game Card is the trademarked term.
The official Nintendo term for NES, SNES, GB, GBA, and N64 cartridges was Game Pak. Game Card has been used for the DS and 3DS.
timetokill
Banned
Battery will last 3 hours.
I'm psyched about the Splatoon pack-in if true. Possibly my favorite game of last gen.
I'm psyched about the Splatoon pack-in if true. Possibly my favorite game of last gen.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I'm waiting for the banners so I could update the OP with the information Max worked on.
Awhile we're waiting. I just added new countdown to OP
Awhile we're waiting. I just added new countdown to OP
Battery-wise, I feel that DS-like life can't be reached again unfortunately, due to the power of the device and how battery tech hasn't evolved fast enough compared to the current levels of power that mobile devices can reach. I'd say, in this case, 4-5 hours (for the most intensive games, like Zelda or Skyrim) would be fine, even if not that great.
I expect battery packs and car adapters to offset a relatively short (3.5 hours) battery life.
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I have a question of the day for some future time:
Assuming the Switch unifies the Nintendo ecosystem, do you expect/want two tiers of game franchises on the system? For example
Basically, would you be okay with them doing the Wii thing of having games of differing scales both on the platform a la New Super Mario Bros Wii and Super Mario Galaxy?
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I have a question of the day for some future time:
Assuming the Switch unifies the Nintendo ecosystem, do you expect/want two tiers of game franchises on the system? For example
3DS Zelda
Wii U Zelda
Basically, would you be okay with them doing the Wii thing of having games of differing scales both on the platform a la New Super Mario Bros Wii and Super Mario Galaxy?
I want and expect that. There was no point in unifying their software teams if they're just going to thrust the handheld people into expensive, work-intensive HD development. And keeping the 3DS around is not much of a solution to that either. It's already compromised by its early 2010's technology and lack of integration with their new account infrastructure.
Oh my god THIS.
Just re-release it on Switch with all expansion packs, and I'd be set for a year or two, easily.
I would be absolutely delighted if we got a sequel to Nintendo Land. But I'm not necessarily expecting one until and unless there is a tie-in sequel to the amusement park opening. I would be so pleased to see a sequel to what is one of the most under-appreciated games of all time. I think it was Neiteio who once said NL would have made an incredible OS for Wii U. Like the whole OS would be designed around the NL experience and attractions.
It seems we are getting just over 3 or so. I agree 5 is the expected minimum good amount. On the bright side, most places have a place to plug something in these days. But, I agree battery life is important for feasibility of portability.
Just in terms of what to expect Nintendo to charge of games, independent of your question regarding game card production costs, I suspect we will see games mostly priced at $40-60 based on what we see of Wii U pricing this gen. Something like a 2D Zelda would be $40, probably. I bet they send Pokémon up to the $50 big leagues.
I never realized the DS Lite was a whopping 19 hours. I mean, I always new it was amazing, but damn. I agree 4-5 hours would be sufficient for not much negative perception of Switch as a portable device. It doesn't seem we are getting that, though, so I expect many Switch battery gripes.
Good point on the battery packs and car adapters!
Regarding your question, I absolutely want and expect multiple versions of franchises, i.e. a 2D Zelda and 3D Zelda, the example you gave also, and then I just really want the HH-style experiences not to go anywhere. I'll just say I completely agree with the replies below. I'd like to see a continued mix of both console and HH-style experiences.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
What a crazy day is it? I had to change my question because I didn't expect that they would outed what game to be pack-in? I know it's a rumor but it's likely that it could be right.
With all information coming out today, how do you feel about the rumors?
For reference:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1315410
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1315434
Thanks, Maxcriden and Boxter432
With all information coming out today, how do you feel about the rumors?
For reference:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1315410
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1315434
Thanks, Maxcriden and Boxter432
What a crazy day is it? I had to change my question because I didn't expect that they would outed what game to be pack-in? I know it's a rumor but it's likely that it could be right.
With all information coming out today, how do you feel about the rumors?
I'm so-so on Splatoon. I suck at those types of games, but still enjoy them. But it seems like the kind of arrangement that would allow Nintendo an upper-hand in Japanese market share, which could pay dividends in other ways down the road.
Happy to hear that at least Mario will be there on Day 1. That'll likely be my main game that brings me into the next generation.
Still bummed about Zelda, but I understand on a logical level.
I love splatoon being bundled since I would probably want to play more of it anyway and im sure it will help sales a ton.
Mario Kart being so big would be nice especially since I never bought any DLC.
But honestly im a little worried about the early months since it feels like we have a lot of ports.
Hoping for a lot of NEW games as time goes on.
Day 1 mario being "64 like" is a HUGE plus though.
What a crazy day is it? I had to change my question because I didn't expect that they would outed what game to be pack-in? I know it's a rumor but it's likely that it could be right.
With all information coming out today, how do you feel about the rumors?
I'm a bit loss. Exactly what are you talking about with "all information coming out today"?
Movalpolos
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This thing is destined to fail. But I'll still buy it.
LegendofLex
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There's no reason why the added efficiencies from developing for a single platform wouldn't let the Zelda team (for example) match their old output (3D Zelda every 3-5 years, top-down Zelda every 2-4 years) while still working on new projects (like Aonuma's teased thief game).
archreaper93
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So does anyone have a list of all rumored and/or confirmed games the Switch is getting, when they're releasing, and how likely/credible the rumored ones are?
3 hour battery wouldn't be ideal. I'm so used to using my iPad for hours (and ridiculously long standby time barely losing any percentage) and it would be cool to use it for Netflix and stuff in bed using the kickstand. It seems like a no brainer they would allow battery to be sent through the controller side bits and make official controller/grip/battery add ons. It's not gonna stop me getting one bit of course the longer it lasts the better. It's like my PlayStation wireless headset. Maybe lasts two sessions max so I just plug it in every single time after I use it, seems like Switch would likely be the same.
I'm feeling fairly optimistic and it all makes sense. Mario Kart and Splatoon had the highest attach rates of any WiiU game, so having Splatoon as a possible pack-in and Mario Kart possibly for launch is a smart move. 3D Mario joining the fray as well means there'll be no shortage of games to play at launch. I can rest easy for Breath of the Wild now.
Skittzo0413
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What a crazy day is it? I had to change my question because I didn't expect that they would outed what game to be pack-in? I know it's a rumor but it's likely that it could be right.
With all information coming out today, how do you feel about the rumors?
For reference:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1315410
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1315434
Thanks, Maxcriden and Boxter432
The ports aren't surprising, nor should anyone assume all we're getting is ports. It's easier to tell people we're getting "Mario Kart" than tell people we're getting "this new IP which hasn't been named yet and is hard to describe"
Zelda is a bit of a disappointment to me but I'm hoping it makes it in by May or June. Holiday 2017 would be pretty disappointment, yeah.
Okami Haundo
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I am beyond excited! I loved Mario Kart 8 and Splatoon so being able to play those games with new content sounds amazing. As someone who owns digital copies of both games, I hope Nintendo can offer a discount of some sort on the Switch versions.
At this point, I'm entirely confident that my Wii-U is going in a closet once the Switch comes out. If they port games like Wind Waker I'll honestly just get rid of it for good.
SolidSnakex
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Yes! I feel much like with region free gaming, trophies/achievements are another stubborn aspect of Nintendo that needs to go away. It doesn't mean that they need to copy them exactly. But they need to be at system level and across all Switch games. You should be able to pull up some type of card on your dashboard that shows you everything you've earned in each game. They can still do things like stickers to go alongside those if they want. There's nothing preventing them from doing that. But it doesn't hurt to acknowledge that trophies/achievements are something people like and it doesn't take away from the games. And for those that don't like them, just include an option that disables whatever popup displays whenever you earn one.
I think Nintendo would be pleasantly surprised at how many additional VC game they'd sell if they implemented them into those.
calc84maniac
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Double-pack ports would be amazing. Imagine Wind Waker + Twilight Princess, or Ocarina of Time + Majora's Mask...
Okami Haundo
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Jerm411
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What a crazy day is it? I had to change my question because I didn't expect that they would outed what game to be pack-in? I know it's a rumor but it's likely that it could be right.
With all information coming out today, how do you feel about the rumors?
For reference:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1315410
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1315434
Thanks, Maxcriden and Boxter432
I was bummed about BotW being delayed but if I can get a brand spanking new full Mario game, Splatoon, and Skyrim among others at launch....?
Yeah I'll def. take that.
Would keep me busy into Zelda drops in the Summer or Fall.
GodfatherX
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Nintendo moved to a streamlined unified pipeline a few years back likely to make this move with switch. The pain of waiting 6 years for a new 3d zelda would greatly be offset by a new 2nd zelda, with a new and bigger map. Same with Mario, 3d mario, and then mario 3d land style games. This will also hopefully allow them to run through established franchises we see every gen early on, and maybe we can start seeing old franchises like f zero and 2d metroid, star tropics ect
I really want them to do smaller Zeldas as well actually. The bigger games take long time to be finished, have been about 5 years between the big home console games since Wind Waker was released (if you don't count FSA), so it's nice with smaller projects in between.
Would love to see them do projects like Majora again too, they did that in 1 year and that was amazing and fresh.
Give me a complete Elder Scrolls collection, remastered for Switch.
I'd never, ever stop playing.
GodfatherX
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Man Bruno Mars has aged horribly in the last couple of yearsOh lord... Just thinking about my wallet if that happens.
not serious
clones are supposed to age faster though
Did not the 3DS destroy the Wii U in volume of original titles? Specifically because they had lighter budgets?
Rogue Agent
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What a crazy day is it? I had to change my question because I didn't expect that they would outed what game to be pack-in? I know it's a rumor but it's likely that it could be right.
With all information coming out today, how do you feel about the rumors?
I feel even more excited about the Switch now. A new Mario game and a complete Mario Kart 8 later on sounds awesome since I've never played the latter.
How long do you think the Nintendo Switch's battery should last?
It should probably last about 5 hours but I personally don't care if it's 30s. I don't need a portable. In fact they need to sell me a battery-less option for less
The new rumor mentioned several months after launch for Zelda. So I'm tempering my expectations big time. I'd be delighted if it came sooner, of course. (I realize you probably saw that part of the rumor, so I'm partly just mentioning it in case others didn't see it.)
MicroByter
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I'm anxious to see how the Switch does battery wise. I just bought an Nvidia K1 tablet which would seem somewhat comparable given the architecture and chipset manufacturer, and battery life drains like crazy when playing some of the more intensive games like Borderlands and Half-Life.
I'm really curious to see how much more efficient the Switch chipset is in comparison given that I can maybe squeeze out around 2 hours of gameplay on my K1. I know there are a lot of factors (screen resolution, power efficiency gains, less background applications running), but really hope it's at the very least 3 hours.
I'm really curious to see how much more efficient the Switch chipset is in comparison given that I can maybe squeeze out around 2 hours of gameplay on my K1. I know there are a lot of factors (screen resolution, power efficiency gains, less background applications running), but really hope it's at the very least 3 hours.
Skittzo0413
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Yeah I saw that but several really only means more than 1, in the strictest definition of the term. And I'm still a bit confused about the report that QA testing can only begin until after the game is finished localization.
I think if Nintendo truly wants/needs it to be there at launch or in the launch window then they'll make it happen.
Ah, cheers.
With regards to the mentioned news above, it's a great initiative for those who haven't picked up Mario Kart 8/Skyrim/Splatoon for the Wii U. A new Mario game and complete editions of Mario Kart 8 & Super Smash Bros. would be pretty fantastic, especially with the Battle Mode being fully revamped.
James Scott
Banned
It'll likely have more indie and western 3rd party support, I'd imagine
DerekOfTheDykes
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I feel the 3DS is probably most comparable to what you will see on the Switch as far as third party support, but with some additional western AAA multiplats and maybe more of the currently Sony exclusive niche Japanese third party titles. That's a good scenario, but it's also a reasonable one.
I would avoid expecting to suddenly get all of the same multiplats PS4/XB1 get. That's a recipe for disaster.
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