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Nintendogs sales data

-jinx- said:
Your point is probably valid in general, but it's not clear why you brought it up. The implication is that you think DS has a "killer app" right now -- so what is it?
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nintendodogs? Certainly it has doubled DS sales in Japan. It certainly has "killer app" potential. a unique experience you can't get anywhere else. I would say a game like luminies had that potential, since it was unique and all, of course it was too niche to ever have mainstream appeal.
 
Surely this proves once and for all ots not about the graphics, its about the games!!!
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I dunno...

When you consider just what Nintendogs actually is, I wouldn't say it's "about the games"...
 
The Nintendogs number is OK. Averaging a little over 45K per version in a week. After hearing the 300K plus numbers rumored I'd say the real total is a little disappointing.

Who would have known the pink DS would be a hit?
 
Maybe one day the anti-Nintendo fans will get bored and stop trolling...never gonna happen? Oh well, I guess it was wishful thinking after all...

At the risk of staying on-topic and avoiding more "Nintendo vs everyone else" comments, I'm surprised to see this game do so well. I'd buy it now if the language barrier wasn't such a problem. Any idea on a US release date? :)
 
While Nintendogs or the eventual release of Pokemon may hurt the PSP as far as gaining momentum on the DS, I think the real problem, and maybe even the dagger, for the PSP is going to be the release of the next-gen systems. While home consoles and portables are technically two different markets, the price of PSP puts it in direct competition with these new consoles. Unless Sony decides to take an even bigger hit on the PSP and gets the price down to about $100 - $120 by next winter, gamers will still have to plop down $250+ for a PSP with mandatory accessories and a couple games, or they'll have the choice to get any of the three new consoles with a couple games for about $300 - $400. I find it really hard to believe that most gamers, hardcore or casual, given the choice would purchase the PSP instead of spending the extra money to play the newest games on the next-gen consoles.
 
With the DS software drought in the US, it seems like importing is a necessity if you want to have any fun with it. Nintendo needs to double time their translators and get the software over here ASAP. Every local DS owner I know is grumbly and down on their system since there hasn't been anything new worth playing for weeks, and I can't blame them.
 
PSP is shown at E3 and the DS is doomed. DS sells out at launch and the PSP is doomed. PSP has a big launch with some excellent games and DS is doomed. Nintendogs gets 40/40 from Famitsu and sees nice sales in its first few days, PSP is doomed.

Guys, neither machine is going away, and I doubt one will ever build a commanding lead. Get used to it.
 
Weren't there new colors trotted out this week with the Nintendogs? I don't know that we can clearly attribute the sales bump to one thing or the other.
 
Dsal said:
With the DS software drought in the US, it seems like importing is a necessity if you want to have any fun with it. Nintendo needs to double time their translators and get the software over here ASAP. Every local DS owner I know is grumbly and down on their system since there hasn't been anything new worth playing for weeks, and I can't blame them.
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I think everything will be fine in the 2nd half of 2005.. US release dates (got them from EB & GS sites) are looking great starting JUNE.. I know these dates are not final but they give an overall look :)

May
03 -- Puyo Pop Fever
04 -- Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
10 -- Need For Speed Underground 2
23 -- Madagascar

June
01 -- ULTIMATE CARD GAMES DS
06 -- Nintendo DS Electric Blue
13 -- Goldeneye: Rogue Agent
13 -- Kirby Canvas Curse
21 -- Bomberman DS
27 -- METEOS DS

July
12 -- Moonlight Fables (Majesco)
12 -- NANOSTRAY
19 -- ULTIMATE BRAIN GAMES DS
26 -- LUNAR GENESIS DS

Aug
08 -- Madden NFL 06
16 -- PAC'N ROLL DS
22 -- YUGIOH NIGHTMARE TROUBADOUR DS
22 -- Metroid Prime: Hunters DS
30 -- LOST IN BLUE DS

Sep
12 -- WAC A MOLE DS
12 -- FROGGER DS
26 -- CASTLEVANIA DS

Oct
03 -- VIEWTIFUL JOE DS
09 -- Advance Wars
25 -- Age of Empires

Nov
01 -- Harry Potter Goblet of Fire
01 -- King Kong
01 -- Need For Speed: Most Wanted
01 -- Sonic
01 -- The Sims 2 Nightlife
07 -- Mario Kart DS
08 -- KIM POSSIBLE COMMUNICATOR DS
15 -- CHRONICLES OF NARNIA DS
21 -- Animal Crossing
22 -- DBZ SUPERSONIC WARRIORS 2 DS
 
I double checked Nintendo for official dates but theres only a couple and it's their own software. So here's some retailer dates from the UK. Guide prices included, shop offering price in brackets. Confirmed dates in bold, let me know if you can confirm or change any:

Indicative dates for Europe:

May
05 - Star Wars Revenge of the Sith - £26.99 (amazon)
05 - Yoshi Touch & Go - £29.99 (GAME)
20 - Pac Pix - £29.99 (GAME)
27 - Need for Speed Underground 2 - £24.99 (Amazon)
?? - Ultimate Brain Games - £29.99 (GAME)

June
03 - Ridge Racer DS - £29.99
24 - Another Code - £29.99 (GAME)
30 - Madagascar - £25.99 (Amazon)
?? - Ultimate Card Games - £29.99 (GAME)

July
01 - Bomberman - £26.99 (Amazon)
01 - GoldenEye: Rogue Agent - £24.99 (Amazon)
01 - Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell - £24.99 (Amazon)
?? - Mario Kart DS - £29.99 (GAME)
?? - Metroid Prime: Hunters - £29.99 (GAME)

September
?? - Castlevania - £29.99 (GAME)
?? - Prince of Persia - £29.99 (GAME)
?? - Sharman King - £29.99 (GAME)
?? - King Kong - £29.99 (GAME)

October
?? - Harry Potter & the Goblet of Fire - £29.99 (GAME)


Cube Europe have release dates here. Some of the game data hasn't been updated since January so some of those dates are already wrong and / or are guesstimates. Until Nintendo divulge more release dates in Europe this is the best we're prolly gonna get.
 
Mrbob said:
Who would have known the pink DS would be a hit?
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The japanese are a bizarre people in that respect, not so much the color but they love "special" release anythings. I'd bet that close to 1/2 of the sales of any of the new color DS' come from people that already own one, that number would be far smaller in any other territory.

Heh, going to be interesting over the summer since there's still no "killer app" for either system coming out. If it's going to be the Nintendogs in Japan vs. UMD movies in the states, i see the Nintendogs wiping their ass on Sony's UMD movies lol, the japanese love their cute things heh. With the huge library of movies at Sony's disposal how they manage to keep picking garbage is beyond me.
 
Catchpenny said:
PSP is shown at E3 and the DS is doomed. DS sells out at launch and the PSP is doomed. PSP has a big launch with some excellent games and DS is doomed. Nintendogs gets 40/40 from Famitsu and sees nice sales in its first few days, PSP is doomed.

Guys, neither machine is going away, and I doubt one will ever build a commanding lead. Get used to it.
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Just when I thought GAF was completely full of idiots, I see the light shining through...
 
john tv said:
When Pokemon Diamond and Pearl come out, DS sales are going to explode, leaving PSP in the dust. This is not opinion, it is fact.

I'm not saying it means anything in the grand scheme of things, but to deny this is to deny reality.
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As well as AC, MKDD, FFIII, etc. Nintendogs looks like it has succeeded as a "non-game," is it solely responsible for the 50k+ jump in NDS units sold? As Naruto DS was also released.
 
Catchpenny said:
PSP is shown at E3 and the DS is doomed. DS sells out at launch and the PSP is doomed. PSP has a big launch with some excellent games and DS is doomed. Nintendogs gets 40/40 from Famitsu and sees nice sales in its first few days, PSP is doomed.

Guys, neither machine is going away, and I doubt one will ever build a commanding lead. Get used to it.
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You're going to make people's heads hurt using common sense like that around here.
 
No doubt the DS will get a huge surge for the 1-2 weeks around Pokemon's release, but I'd look for the PSP to start outselling the DS once again in a week or two, just like it has for most of the year in Japan thus far.

Nintendo can't release new DS colors every month.

Maybe Sony should think about releasing the ice white PSP model in Japan as well to get a sales boost since it seems to be an easy card to play.

BTW I wouldn't say the "surge" is due solely to Nintendogs ... the two new color models obviously helped. Nintendogs software sales are solid, but actually not spectacular. The 300K+ rumor would have been spectacular.
 
"Guys, neither machine is going away, and I doubt one will ever build a commanding lead. Get used to it."

Buuuuuuuuuuuut THERE HAS TO BE A WINNER! *stamps feet*

AND IT HAS TO BE THE NON-NINTENDO OPTION!

Nintendo can't release new DS colors every month.
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True - they could stick with the other plan that they've been running with which is to release games that people want ;)

the PSP needs to have more good games as well. I know there's going to be some "Wooo! holy shit" announcements at E3, but theres only so much Wipeout a guy can play. I'm reduced to World Tour Soccer at the moment god damn it!
 
Unison said:
Am I just misreading or is Gamespot this biased?
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It's impossible to completely remove any bias from something that a human writes up. Everything has bias, silly. That's a basic thing you should know.
 
Also on that blog, it seems to be saying that Mario 64 DS sold 12,000 units which would be really great. More interesting is that it says the DS captured nearly 50% of the hardware market. That would suggest sales of:
PS2 30K
PSP 30K
GBA 10K
Others 4-5K

soundwave05 said:
No doubt the DS will get a huge surge for the 1-2 weeks around Pokemon's release, but I'd look for the PSP to start outselling the DS once again in a week or two, just like it has for most of the year in Japan thus far.
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It's too early to say. The reason the psp was doing so well early this year was because of shortages. The relentless sales of over 40K however were not indicative of how the psp was really doing. This latest month it has averaged just under 30K per week. It has been very stable and consistent, but there is a real possibility that it could drop again, perhaps down to 20K a week. After all, every single psp game so far this year is basically filler, and I don't know of anything scheduled in the next few months that could boost hardware sales.

On the other hand, the DS has been fairly volatile. Sales dropped early on with the sparse release list, but they have recovered. It's partly due to colours, but with the colours being released simultaneously with the big games, it's a bit hard to jusge how to apportion the credit for the increases. Of course with no more colours due for a while we'll now see what it can really do since you also won't have a week where buyers are waiting a week for a new colour to come out. However, the DS is in a better position than ever to sell well. It has a strong library, and now has something original in Nintendogs which got a 40/40, and also Naruto which should help widen it's appeal beyond the core Nintendo audience.
 
I think you could apply the shortage issue for the PSP outselling the DS in January/Feburary ... but through most of March also?

I think that's really pushing it.

According to a lot of reports, PSP supply issues eased up around Feburary, and the
PSP continued to outsell the DS.

I think what we're seeing now is the "anamoly", you're not going to get a new colors and a big release every week.
 
GaimeGuy said:
It's impossible to completely remove any bias from something that a human writes up. Everything has bias, silly. That's a basic thing you should know.
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Yes, reporting a system has sold 3 million units when it has sold 5 million is a basic human trait.
 
soundwave05 said:
According to a lot of reports, PSP supply issues eased up around Feburary, and the PSP continued to outsell the DS.
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The point is, because of the supply issues the psp is tracking behind the DS. It STILL hasn't caught up with where the DS was at the end of last year. In other words, when the DS userbase was where the psp userbase is now, it was shifting over 100K per week. Granted, the holiday period had a lot to do with that, but comparing higher weekly psp sales early this year isn't a fair measure to gauge the overall demand for the machines.

Also, my point is it isn't possible to gauge what the DS weekly demand is. In a couple of weeks it may have dropped like a rock to around 20-22K per week, however it may only drop to 40K a week average. Like I said, the lowest DS weeks were the ones just before the launch of new colours. Also, because the big games were launched the same week as the colours it isn't possible to judge what effect Kirby, Naruto and Nintendogs have had on the hardware. Only judge the colours/games combo. We'll find out over the next week or 3 where things really stand.
 
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