Here are my personal estimates.
I should go see how painful my predictions were.
Tough month for predictions
Here are my personal estimates.
I should go see how painful my predictions were.
As I understand it, the Fire Emblem thing was at first a legit distribution issue where something major happened in the process and copies didn't go out as scheduled. Then something else happened in manufacturing which is far more their fault.
Edit: Batman AA and AC
Ok good, they're about the same as mine then.Here are my personal estimates. Except in the cases where figures are known, rounded to the nearest 5K.
Xbox 360: 281K
PS3: 200K
3DS: 145K
Wii: 100K
NDS: 70K
WiiU: 57K
PSV: 35K
PSP: 10K
PS2: 0K
I should go see how painful my predictions were.
Why wasn't Animal Crossing released this holiday? Did they expect Paper Mario and NSMB2 to be enough? And it's releasing all the way in June...
AC, Pokemon, Mario&Luigi, and other games will ensure 3DS has a good second half of the year. Next NPD has Fire Emblem which should help sales. They really should've released AC earlier though.
I can't help but think that even if DmC had been *godly* - Bayonetta quality gameplay with Enslaved level storytelling - it wouldn't of sold that many more units.
I'm just sort of depressed with where the $60 market is at these days.
Which sold on being quality games using a multi-billion dollar grossing IP.
Which sold on being quality games using a multi-billion dollar grossing IP.
I don't know if the US got any similar promotions, but Best Buy and Future Shop (in Canada) ran Arkham Asylum for $39.99 for the first week or so that it was out. They did the same thing with Just Cause 2 and (I think) Borderlands. That had to help get people on board.
I'm sure we can all agree DMC fans killed the franchise.
edit: actually, nah. Im out.
this is making my head hurt.
As I understand it, the Fire Emblem thing was at first a legit distribution issue where something major happened in the process and copies didn't go out as scheduled. Then something else happened in manufacturing which is far more their fault.
Are January 06 numbers correct?Here are my personal estimates. Except in the cases where figures are known, rounded to the nearest 5K.
Xbox 360: 281K
PS3: 200K
3DS: 145K
Wii: 100K
NDS: 70K
WiiU: 57K
PSV: 35K
PSP: 10K
PS2: 0K
I should go see how painful my predictions were.
Jan-06 Jan-12
PS2 272,000 X360 281,000
GCN 66,000 PS3 200,000
XBX 89,000 Wii 100,000
[U]X360 249,000[/U] [U]WiiU 57,000[/U]
Total 676,000 Total 638,000
3DS 145,000
PSP 179,000 NDS 70,000
GBA 172,000 PSV 35,000
[U]NDS 158,000[/U] [U]PSP 10,000[/U]
Total 509,000 Total 260,000
Yes, those are the numbers I have for 2006. It's pretty eye opening what's happened to the handheld market.Are January 06 numbers correct?
Code:Jan-06 Jan-12 PS2 272,000 X360 281,000 GCN 66,000 PS3 200,000 XBX 89,000 Wii 100,000 [U]X360 249,000[/U] [U]WiiU 57,000[/U] Total 676,000 Total 638,000 3DS 145,000 PSP 179,000 NDS 70,000 GBA 172,000 PSV 35,000 [U]NDS 158,000[/U] [U]PSP 10,000[/U] Total 509,000 Total 260,000
If so:
- Home consoles this January are down 5.6% compared to January 2006.
- Handheld consoles are down 48.9% compared to January 2006.
- The XBOX 360 and PS3 combined are selling better than the PS2, GCN and original XBOX combined (+12%).
Yeah, it definitely seems like a problem on both front. Some people also never received their preorder (I had 2 at 2 different place and one store didn't even get it!) and I had never seen something like that before.
It seems they shipped so few copies that every single retailers ran out of copies and bundles and have no idea when they will get more.
Even Atlus games are better distributed which is really something.
Hopefully potential customers are not burned by this.
Yes, those are the numbers I have for 2006. It's pretty eye opening what's happened to the handheld market.
Im still not convinced that this entirely due to contraction of that market vs incompetence from both Sony and Nintendo.
There's room for both.
Edit: Incompetence and contraction, that is.
I'm sure both have happened, what I meant is that I'm not convinced the 3DS couldn't reach a baseline of 250k-300k a month if Nintendo handled it differently. Sure not DS or GBA peak levels but respectable.
Damn, that's bad.The 3DS this January was worse than any January for the NDS except last year's.
I can't help but think that even if DmC had been *godly* - Bayonetta quality gameplay with Enslaved level storytelling - it wouldn't of sold that many more units.
I'm just sort of depressed with where the $60 market is at these days.
I just thought about it some more and realised I forgot about the 5 week month. It's actually even worse when one takes that into account.Yes, those are the numbers I have for 2006. It's pretty eye opening what's happened to the handheld market.
Jan-06 Jan-12
PS2 68,000 X360 56,200
GCN 16,500 PS3 40,000
XBX 22,250 Wii 20,000
X360 62,250 WiiU 11,400
Total 169,000 Total 127,600
3DS 29,000
PSP 44,750 NDS 14,000
GBA 43,000 PSV 7,000
NDS 39,500 PSP 2,000
Total 127,250 Total 52,000
These are the only console JRPG's that debuted selling over 100,000 units.
1. [PS3-360] Final Fantasy XIII (1,322,100)
2. [PS3-360] Final Fantasy XIII-2 (~ 350,000)
3. [PS3-360] Dark Souls (~ 350,000)
4. [360] Lost Odyssey (203,600)
5. [PS3] Demon's Souls (~ 150,000)
6. [PS3] Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch (~ 112,000)
3DS needs a pricedrop to 129 for the OG model and 149/160 for the XL. Maybe even install some software on both models. Drop software prices across the board including the VC games. Brain Training should be 19.99 at most and maybe even installed on 3DS systems. Of course, maybe Nintendo is actually happy with these numbers but while we fret about Nintendo possiby missing the Wii U prediction by 2 million units, they will miss the 3DS HW shipment by possibly even more than Wii U.
I just thought about it some more and realised I forgot about the 5 week month. It's actually even worse when one takes that into account.
Code:Jan-06 Jan-12 PS2 68,000 X360 56,200 GCN 16,500 PS3 40,000 XBX 22,250 Wii 20,000 X360 62,250 WiiU 11,400 Total 169,000 Total 127,600 3DS 29,000 PSP 44,750 NDS 14,000 GBA 43,000 PSV 7,000 NDS 39,500 PSP 2,000 Total 127,250 Total 52,000
- On a per week basis home consoles are down 24.5% when the 360 and Wii U launches are included; handhelds are down 59.1%.
- PS3+360 sold 9.9% less than PS2+GCN+XBX. PS3+360+WII sold 8.8% more.
Vita ~ 34k (cod bundle ~ 40%)
level5 ~ 112k
Capcom may cry ~ 187k (PS3 ~ 52%)
Any other notable missing data?
Has a nice ring to it.My name, btw, is Donte, but you can call Donte the Franchise Killer.
Black ~ 83%
White ~ 17%
200k < PS3 < 250k and more closer to 200k
100k < Wii < 150k and more closer to 100k
100k < 3DS < 150k and more closer to 150k
50K < DS < 100K and more closer to 50k
PSP ~ 10k
It sold around 170K last January. But I agree it's not doing very well right now.Last January the 3DS sold around 250k
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=34999454&postcount=317 made through calculations, and now the 3DS has less than 150k, and yet people are still saying that the 3DS is doing really well.
Top 10 Best-selling titles for the 3DS at retail, December 2012 NPD:
1. New Super Mario Bros. 2
2. Paper Mario: Sticker Star
3. Angry Birds Trilogy
4. Mario Kart 7
5. Super Mario 3D Land
6. Disney Epic Mickey: The Power of lllusion
7. Scribblenauts Unlimited
8. Wreck-It Ralph
9. Steel Diver
10. Style Savvy: Trendsetters
How in the hell did that happen?!
o snap.gifNintendo are lucky that the Vita is around to draw attention away from the 3DS' performance.
OP hasn't updated any PR by any yet. MS release any yet?So that's why we got no Nintendo PR. Not even a decent 3DS result to spin.
Beast mode!The 3DS this January was worse than any January for the NDS except last year's.
Vita ~ 34k (cod bundle ~ 40%)
level5 ~ 112k
Capcom may cry ~ 187k (PS3 ~ 52%)
Any other notable missing data?
It also helps that the DS is actually doing well in Japan and parts of mainland EuropeBeast mode!
Nintendo are lucky that the Vita is around to draw attention away from the 3DS' performance.
I believe there was one for Microsoft but I'm not sure. Sony...well they never release PR considering how Vita has been doing. Even combining PSP numbers wouldn't paint a good picture. Perhaps Nintendo could have combined the Wii and DS families for ultimate spin, ha.o snap.gif
OP hasn't updated any PR by any yet. MS release any yet?
I don't expect Sony to release any as expected.