Opus Angelorum
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spwolf said:
Let's not be silly now, clearly they wouldn't sell it below manufacturing cost.
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NPD March 2011 Sales Results [Update 2: Super Street Fighter IV 3D]
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Let's not be silly now, clearly they wouldn't sell it below manufacturing cost.
Opus Angelorum said:
It doesn't really matter what either companies do in the US at this point. There is a 10M+ sales gap between 360 and PS3.
If PS3 outsold the 360 200k a month every month from Apr 2011 onwards, it'd take over 4 years to make up the difference.
Petty squabbles about who is first and who is second month to month aside, I do believe the PS3 would benefit more from a price cut at this point. 360 is already has a sub-$200 option, and Kinect is giving them great momentum. 430k/month is huge outside the holidays. I don't think price is really holding the 360 back. I think any price cut at this stage would just provide a very modest sales boost, that wouldn't offset lost revenue. Microsoft would be better off waiting until the Kinect started to cool a bit, THEN drop their price.
Elios83 said:
If it's true that the Kinect bundles are what's driving X360 sales right now, then wouldn't it make sense that a $100 price cut on said bundles would drive even more X360 sales?
I guess I just don't buy the argument that a $100 price cut would only benefit the PS3, and not the X360.
LosDaddie said:
Infact I don't think and never said that.
I said that the effect of a 199$ PS3 would boost sales in a way that nothing Microsoft might realistically do can fully offset.
And of course since this is NPD thread..let's not even talk about what would happen outside the US
Opus Angelorum
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EagleEyes said:
Well I guess the argument is, take that same console and reduce it to mass market levels. Then what do we get?
Elios83 said:
But I don't fully agee with that. Realistically, MS could match any price cut Sony can muster, and they could cut Kinect's price too. Those are both realistic options for MS moving forward.
Again, if we are to believe that the Kinect bundles ($300 and $400 SKUs) are what's truly driving X360 sales right now, I think a $100 cut to both SKUs would provide a considerable boost to X360 sales. Sure, maybe the PS3 would get an even bigger sales boost with a $100 cut, but that's just guesswork as to whom would benefit more.
Elios83 said:And of course since this is NPD thread..let's not even talk about what would happen outside the US
Right. Let's stay on topic.
Opus Angelorum
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EagleEyes said:
Indeed, however the reason Microsoft have the upper hand is...if the $199 bundle does not suit they'll have a $99/$129 4GB model waiting.
WrikaWrek said:
I think the positions are locked in.
There is no way the PS3 can catch the 360 in North America. I do think a $199 PS3 would sell really well, but it won't make much of a dent in the 360's lead.
I think the 360 will continue to outsell the Wii, but I don't see it ending the generation in first place.
WrikaWrek said:
50m sold in little more than 4 years in the 300-600$/ range, still going strong at 300$ after a year and half without a price cut, huge lineup and third party support ahead and there still are a few posters who don't think that PS3 has a whole lot to say when it reaches mass market in the second part of its lifecycle...oh my
XDvelvet_nitemare
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50m shipped u mean.
professor_t
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Shurs said:
Yeah, isn't the 360 still behind the Wii by like a jillion units?
CadetMahoney
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360 is behind by 1 jiggawatt, or something.professor_t said:
I'm glad to see some ppl still have confidence in PS3 starting to sell gangbusters on a price drop. Some drama for the future is better than no drama. Worst NPD yet. Everything is so predictable now. 360 beats wii, Sony behind as usual, someone always brings in worldwide sales the moment someone is impressed by MS. . . same old.
miksar said:
I think what you're intending to say is that the launch buyers for 3DS were a "core" crowd. Not necessarily Nintendo-focused "core" crowd, just a "core" crowd. That's reasonable. When you said "Nintendo core crowd" that usually brings with it the connotation that those people buy all the Mario/Zelda/Nintendo games and ignore other stuff. "Core" crowd are usually the early adopters.
Lone_Prodigy
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donny2112 said:
If it was "core" then Nintendogs and Cats would've sold a lot more.
Version 3.0
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I think the comparisons between the 3DS launch and the DS launch are somewhat misleading. The DS was not a strong system in the US until the DS Lite release. In its launch month (Nov 2004), it was outsold by every other system except the Gamecube, and in its 2nd month, even the Gamecube outsold it.
For comparison' sake, the Game Boy Advance launched in June 2001 and sold nearly double what the DS did in its launch month.
The DS was a system that got a second chance. From these (admittedly early) numbers, the 3DS might need one, too.
Personally, I don't think people realize the 3DS is a new system rather than another revision of the DS.
For comparison' sake, the Game Boy Advance launched in June 2001 and sold nearly double what the DS did in its launch month.
The DS was a system that got a second chance. From these (admittedly early) numbers, the 3DS might need one, too.
Personally, I don't think people realize the 3DS is a new system rather than another revision of the DS.
A little anecdotal observation. A few days ago I was waiting at a traffic-heavy Best Buy for 40 minutes waiting for an incompetent employee to get something out of the back inventory for me. It was interesting, out of the tons of people walking through the video game aisle, not a single person even looked at the 3DS section. It was odd.
I also question how much a few N64 remakes will move the needle this summer. It will be interesting to see hardware sales next month. DS had a huge month in part because of Pokemon, but three months from now what if DS is still smoking 3DS in hardware sales?
I also question how much a few N64 remakes will move the needle this summer. It will be interesting to see hardware sales next month. DS had a huge month in part because of Pokemon, but three months from now what if DS is still smoking 3DS in hardware sales?
Opus Angelorum said:
$129 4GB would probably have an even bigger impact this holiday then when they hit $199 in 08. It almost makes sense to pass up $149 and ride this price for 2-3 more years before they hit $99. With them not having one for that long they probably can afford at this point. I couldn't say by that point if it would be break even or not as it would be nice to have a new breakdown of costs as haven't seen one in awhile on the 360. May seems a bit early for a Wii price cut and I could see a Sony new model price cut by E3. Better for them to just drop it in August/Sept around Gears. Since the last price cut from Sony, MS is up 2-3M without a price cut and I think this year could be very interesting to see it play out with dual price cuts at or around the same time.
Opus Angelorum
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Jtyettis said:
It's perhaps no coincidence that the last Xbox 360 price drop came around the time it began making a profit.
charlequin
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Shurs said:
I agree with all of these statements. We're basically in the fiddly tail-end of things now.
Lord_Nergal
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I would have thought the 3DS had more of a buzz.
Then again it was only on sale for 5 days?
Then again it was only on sale for 5 days?
charlequin
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chubigans said:
I think they need one, they can probably "afford" one, and I'm certainly waiting on one.
lawblob said:
I'd say Zelda will not even make a dent. It's a damm shame one could say arrogant that Nintendo in this climate of idevices,androids etc with easily accessible content and a probable beast on the way in the NGP thinks that not having any quality for months is ok.
Opus Angelorum
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Dirtsaw said:
They will also have made quite a bit of money from the impressive hardware sales over the last year.
@ charlequin
If Sony are to drop the price, it has to be a significant one. Adding 'perceived value' simply isn't viable at this time in the generation.
According to bloomberg, 3DS sold just under 440k, unless I'm reading this wrong:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...-u-s-debut-has-great-start-citing-npd-1-.html
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...-u-s-debut-has-great-start-citing-npd-1-.html
http://twitter.com/michaelpachter/statuses/59019590822412288
http://twitter.com/michaelpachter/status/59021309618831360
SSF %25
michaelpachter said:
http://twitter.com/michaelpachter/status/59021309618831360
SSF %25
I feel bad for the poor souls who only have Face Raiders and AR Cards to play with. Well they can have the device count their steps and buy some cats to save their Mii though!
Edit: In another Pachman tweet he aludes to 1/4 of the 3DS audience buying SF4 if I'm reading it right. So that means SF4 is around 90 to 100k and we know the second game is half of the first. So that means the rest of 3DS software sales 50k and under?
Edit: In another Pachman tweet he aludes to 1/4 of the 3DS audience buying SF4 if I'm reading it right. So that means SF4 is around 90 to 100k and we know the second game is half of the first. So that means the rest of 3DS software sales 50k and under?
AceBandage
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Or they bought a 3DS and Pokemon?