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NPD Sales for July 2015
- Thread starter Mpl90
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While that bundle will never happen, they just had a $7.2 billion write down and that didn't affect stock greatly. I don't think bundling a couple games during the holiday will cause much consternation, lol.
I think the looming release of NX has a bigger negative impact on sales in the US than Japan, plus fallout from a disappointing E3 for Nintendo.
DannyDanger
Member
I think the price cut did more for X1 last yr than the exclusives
This yr Halo will do alot. But at the same time Cod and Battlefront should boost the ps4 as well.
Wonder if ms is gonna pull another, buy x1 get the game Sony is bundling promotion
This yr Halo will do alot. But at the same time Cod and Battlefront should boost the ps4 as well.
Wonder if ms is gonna pull another, buy x1 get the game Sony is bundling promotion
I know that the Star Wars hype will be beyond massive this November, but unless it's a limited edition bundle, I doubt it can compete with the XB1, especially if Microsoft has bundles like $349 with Halo 5 and RotTR. The way I see it, the PS4 can only match or even exceed the XB1 in sales if Sony announces a $349 Battlefront bundle and $399 limited edition Battlefront bundle.
The 8-Bit Raider
Member
In the US you mean?
I think that's more a testament to how well put together the original PS3 version was.
The Artisan
Member
I see that, perhaps LBP3 should've been their quest first before launching dreams. do we know how long they've been working on it?
Nightengale
Member
Ever since LBP2, so over 4 years now.
It's horribly overpriced compared to DMC4 SE which was $25 and added three new playable characters.
The Artisan
Member
they were working on dreams and doing tearaway too?
Nightengale
Member
Yeah, split to 2 teams. One handled Tearaway, another did dreams.
Being a UGC studio, it's not like they need a big team making assets. Tech innovation is more essential.
The Artisan
Member
ugh...I respect that they want to do new IPs...but if there's one dev that can do an LBP3D and do it right in every day...its's them. If I have to wait till the end of the gen, so be it. But they should do it.
AmuroChan
Member
Well, most remasters are horribly overpriced compared to DMC4 SE.
thelastword
Banned
Ha, only that these would be the games they depend on to give their hardware some momentum.....in the sense that (the software should sell the hardware), not given away with the hardware. Hypothetically, if these games were to be bundled, the profit margins would be dwindled significantly. As you said though, MS has deep pockets, but no businessman is in it to throw money away, money is a finite resource, all considering....
This holiday season is going to be interesting though. MS left no stoned unturned to gain some momentum last holiday season. The deals/bundles I saw last year were quite ridiculous to be honest, but I think things will be much more interesting this year with the competition being in a position to give a price cut due to hardware efficiencies. (lower power draw, smaller mb etc..)
Further to that, I don't think bundles will be all though, I think the console with the most anticipated or greater volume of high quality software titles will win. The other factors would just sweeten the pot.
Well this is a NPD thread, which is US sales #'s.
I'm just guessing here but when it comes to destiny there is probably more ps4 players regardless of onr months npd. Then there is digital sales. You also have the destiny ps4 bundle launching so many are probably waiting on that.
Yes, the only way we would know which console has more active Destiny players would be if Bungie came out and told us.
CosmicQueso
Member
Price drop is still highly unlikely imo. Additional stuff thrown in the box, sure. Velocities are good, inventory is good, no need to drop.
Would be #6
The dedicated handheld gaming market continues to show moderate to steep declines.
If only it included a charger...
Would be #6
The dedicated handheld gaming market continues to show moderate to steep declines.
If only it included a charger...
It wouldn't have made a difference
theprodigy
Member
How did 3DS do?
I don't know why anyone is using the positions as definite proof that a game sold more anyway. We dont have actual sales numbers to see by how much and total sales still probably favor PS4.
CosmicQueso
Member
The positions are definite, absolute proof of the sales rankings in that particular month.
Ehi Cosmic, since you're here...well, if you could give an udpate on Bayonetta 2 sales, I'd be pleased. Hopefully, creamsugar can answer to what I asked a few pages back about 3DS/Vita/Wii U software sales
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
There was a digital sale last month for Destiny on PSN.
Yes i know but my point is what about actual sales? Sales difference could be less than 10K for the month. And more importantly as i said total sales could still be higher for one or the other.
Just looking at the chart and being "surprised" that a game sold more on one platform is a bit hasty imo. That one month cream posted GTAV sales between PS4 and XB1 it was nothing substantial to argue about in light of all the shock and surprise prior months when PS4 or XB1 would take the lead.
Basically, i need hard numbers. The combined SKU format is a waste of time too.
gundamkyoukai
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Still that is missing so much data if you really want the overall picture after a while.
Like DD sales , bundles and numbers .
Of course that only matters if the split was close to begin with .
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
they'll do $350 with a pack in before they cut all the way down to 299. baby steps.
How exactly are you drawing to this conclusion from 2 games in one month?
Especially as you have things like this on the chart too?
10.) Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)
SuperLeviathan
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I'm still a little astonished that the Wii U couldn't even make it to 50k (with a staggering YOY decline, no less). In the summer. With Splatoon, flanked on all sides by Mario Kart, Smash and others.
This was the perfect storm for a something big.
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
They announced the NX and delayed their major system seller to 2016. Even if splatoon does gangbusters, the double whammy of those two things is hard to overcome
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The 8-Bit Raider
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You don't say.
CosmicQueso
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Sorry, I don't give numbers out. Sales trend hasn't changed over the last few months however.
Unfortunately, you're just not going to get that as part of the public without a leak or paying for the data.
You're right, it is. But still, seeing some of the platform dynamics in motion from month to month is interesting. But you're right, trying to come up with some conclusions based on this information is the classic fool's errand.
You do? Why? And I don't see how the combined SKU rank is a "waste of time" as it accurately reflects total sales of a particular title in the market.
Yes, it's missing all of the information you would need to gauge an overall picture.
Digital sales aren't part of NPD, HW bundles are broken out, but only if you pay for those breakouts in your feed, etc. In sum, US Physcial NPD sales information is a TERRIBLE means of trying to determine the overall health or trends of the market. As a professional games analyst, I can count on one hand the number of times I'm asked about the latest NPD results every month. Many months, I get no requests for information. For the industry as a whole, Physical NPD sales figures are something that a games executive might look at for a minute or two, say "hmmm" to themselves and then delete the email. Ten, fifteen years ago it was a different story. But now? It's trivia.
AmuroChan
Member
Goes to show how important 3rd party support is.
aaronwt
Member
Do they plan on modernizing and tracking more relevant data?
SayBooSayDo-SayBooSayWho
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That's pretty small, Xbox may have had won the month if they had a deal.
In this case I wouldn't be surprised if they won the rest of the year, they came a long way.
BTW do we have WIi U numbers?
In this case I wouldn't be surprised if they won the rest of the year, they came a long way.
BTW do we have WIi U numbers?
CosmicQueso
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SlipperyMoose
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I think most people that would flock to the system for those games already have a Wii U. Also they announced a new console is coming so some people are waiting for that.
Omnistalgic
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Hmmm...I think ps4 will win until October. But even with Halo, I'm not sure MS will win all three months. Think it'll stay close in U.S momentum for both platforms, and then we will see a little more of that PS2 like dominance early next year.
I see all this talk about MS holiday, when all I really see making a big impact is Halo. Ppl have to wait for TR, but ppl Know its coming to other platforms now, you can preorder and its not even that big in U.S. I think Sony can really dominate the majority of next year again only not like the normal trends, but with very dominant sales from Uc4, SFV, and GT7 (maybe) I don't think ppl even realize how well ps4 is doing semi-coasting 3rd party's titles. Sony's best franchises have yet to surface. We are going to see it somewhat this year on MS side with halo, but I think some are not acknowledging the potential sales and hardware push of UC4 and SFV without all the Holiday competition. If Japans comeback plan works even a little that's another region spitting out games tailored to a specific platform. I know this is a U.S centered thread, but I imagine all regions will be affected by worldwide trends in some way, and Sony simply looks incredibly strong next year.
So I guess I would agree with many users here than Xbox will certainly win some NPD battles this year, I do have to question the significance of it. I think PS4 is gonna hit Wii numbers next year with a 299 GT7 and UC4 bundle.
I see all this talk about MS holiday, when all I really see making a big impact is Halo. Ppl have to wait for TR, but ppl Know its coming to other platforms now, you can preorder and its not even that big in U.S. I think Sony can really dominate the majority of next year again only not like the normal trends, but with very dominant sales from Uc4, SFV, and GT7 (maybe) I don't think ppl even realize how well ps4 is doing semi-coasting 3rd party's titles. Sony's best franchises have yet to surface. We are going to see it somewhat this year on MS side with halo, but I think some are not acknowledging the potential sales and hardware push of UC4 and SFV without all the Holiday competition. If Japans comeback plan works even a little that's another region spitting out games tailored to a specific platform. I know this is a U.S centered thread, but I imagine all regions will be affected by worldwide trends in some way, and Sony simply looks incredibly strong next year.
So I guess I would agree with many users here than Xbox will certainly win some NPD battles this year, I do have to question the significance of it. I think PS4 is gonna hit Wii numbers next year with a 299 GT7 and UC4 bundle.
The problem just is that Nintendo is producing games for a very small group of people that already own the system. While the potential audience for those titles might be much larger, having to buy a rather pricey (compared to the competition) system for just these titles is a huge obstacle.
AmuroChan
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If MS doesn't win October with Halo 5, their flagship franchise, they're not coming back in this race. I think they will win Oct and Nov personally. Fallout 4 is closely aligned with XB and they also have TR. I can see PS4 winning Sep because of MGSV.
Primethius
Banned
I doubt the number of people who didn't want to buy a Wii U for Smash/Mario Kart last year (along with a bunch of other titles) but did for Splatoon is that particularly high. Especially given that the price hasn't really changed for the system.
The Wii U is pretty much done anyways. It has such a barren line up that its sales will probably continue to stagnate or decrease barring a price drop.
It stuck out to me that EA seemed notably happier with DA3 than any other BioWare title yet it seemed to have worse NPDs than Mass Effect 3.
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
PC, digital. Not included in NPD trends.
How will they win September?