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That's the case so far and it's not mattering one bit.
Do you mean that the quality of Wii's library isn't suffering for it?
That's the case so far and it's not mattering one bit.
I didn't say I did, just pointing out that it has been done.besada said:A launch title and no one's done it since. Is there some game you know about coming with that sort of budget?
Segata Sanshiro said:I absolutely, positively GUARANTEE Blue Dragon is a massive bomb, sales-wise.
Oh God, I hoped we had all collectively forgotten Boogie.Frillen said:Tiger Woods 08 Wii, Boogie and RE4: Wii Edition numbers?
John Harker said:aww, crappy Metroid sales.
Someone out there just greenlighed another party game, and cancel Project HAMMER.
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Seth C said:Or we played the demo and fell asleep. Seriously, I was looking forward to the game but that demo killed it for me.
MirageDwarf said:Sonycowboy, any chance of getting Bioshock PC numbers?
besada said:A launch title and no one's done it since. Is there some game you know about coming with that sort of budget?
Third Parties aren't going to be able to exist on PS360 userbase. People can only buy so many games. Look at how many bombs the PS3 has had this year already.besada said:What if no one but Nintendo ever has that much faith in the sales?
tiger woods? boogie? hello?Lobster said:My comment wasn't directed only at madden..
Hcoregamer00 said:From what I seen, only Nintendo has enough faith in the sales of the Wii because they are the only ones pumping out $20 million dollar games with $20 million dollar marketing budgets. It paid off handsomely because their games sell.
icecream said:NPD Coverage: August 5 - September 1
Blue Dragon Release Date: August 28th
I still believe it will hit its 200K.
The Sphinx said:Wow, thanks. That has implications I think. For Mistwalker of course, but also for Japanese devs in general.
month wii 360 ps3
----- --- --- ---
sep 500 320 150
oct 400 240 120
nov 900 700 400
dec 1200 1000 500
total 3000 2260 1170
The Sphinx said:And that... that right there... is PS3's last best chance.
Nolan. said:I know but I was hoping a lot more people than that would buy the game within that period. i doubt it manages to sell better next week for some reason. I hope i'm wrong.
Son of Godzilla said:Oh God, I hoped we had all collectively forgotten Boogie.
MobiusPigeon said:tiger woods? boogie? hello?
Lobster said:I thought the Wii version would outsell the Ps3 version but i would hardly call the Wii version a bomb. EA sports titles have never sold well on Nintendo consoles..Wii is probably going to change that but I don't think its going to do so for another year. Ps3 version shocked me..
I found it at: http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/34271/BioShock-Best-Selling-PC-Game-of-Augusttraveler said:I would be curious to know these as well.
WoW: 49,126 copies. BioShock: 77,374 copies.
1) Bioshock - 2K Games
2) World Of Warcraft: Burning Crusade Expansion Pack - Vivendi
3) World Of Warcraft - Vivendi
4) Guild Wars Eye Of The North Expansion Pack - NCsoft
5) Civilization IV: Beyond The Sword Expansion Pack - 2K Games
6) The Sims 2 Deluxe - Electronic Arts
7) Age Of Empires III - Microsoft
8) Madden NFL 2008 - Electronic Arts
9) Warcraft III Battle Chest - Vivendi
10) Microsoft Flight Simulator X Deluxe - Microsoft
11) Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars - Electronic Arts
12) The Sims 2 Seasons Expansion Pack - Electronic Arts
13) Sim City 4 Deluxe - Electronic Arts
14) Battlefield 2142 - Electronic Arts
15) Two Worlds - Southpeak Interactive
16) Halo 2 - Microsoft
17) Civilization IV - 2K Games
18) Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows Of Angmar - Midway
19) Guild Wars - NCsoft
20) The Sims Complete Collection - Electronic Arts
Ether_Snake said:If Sony has any brains left they'll try to at least cement their position in Japan (they can still take over the Wii, long term, with games like Monster Hunter 3, DMC, RE5, FFXIII, MGS4, etc.).
Maxwell House said:The Iphone costs way less to manufacture than the PS3 though, so the scenarios aren't the same at all. Apple isn't losing money on each Iphone sold at $399, while Sony would be losing a massive amount of money on each PS3 sold at $399.
Ether_Snake said:If Sony has any brains left they'll try to at least cement their position in Japan (they can still take over the Wii, long term, with games like Monster Hunter 3, DMC, RE5, FFXIII, MGS4, etc.).\.
Narag said:Word of mouth may be necessary since review scores seemed rather low.
Ether_Snake said:If Sony has any brains left they'll try to at least cement their position in Japan (they can still take over the Wii, long term, with games like Monster Hunter 3, DMC, RE5, FFXIII, MGS4, etc.).
At the same time they would be behind the 360 in the US, but not TOO far off, and more than anything they would finally get the rest of the userbase moving to the PS3 rather than letting them sit on their PS2 only.
Log4Girlz said:Hind-sight is 20-20. Yes if they spent 3, 4, 5 times more on R&D than they did they could have had a marginally more successful product than the monstrous Wii. But they did not choose to take that risk fearing a massive bath in red ink. They took a ballsy risk at keeping with the gamecube technology and it paid off handsomely.
Segata Sanshiro said:NINTENDO: AMERICA, TRAIN YOUR BRAINS....AGAIN!
AMERICA: UH, THANKS, WE'RE ALL GOOD HERE.
Hcoregamer00 said:That argument about the dev/publisher's fault has a lot of truth to it. After all, when you make a high budget game and market the hell out of it, people will buy it. I saw 10 Bioshock commercials when I was in San Diego last weekend. If the Wii has XBOX 360 caliber games in terms of quality and budget and fails miserably, then I would say the Wii is a lost cause for 3rd party.
As of yet, I haven't seen anything on the Wii from 3rd party that is on the level of quality Microsoft is getting, so that argument hasn't been tested.
John Harker said:aww, crappy Metroid sales.
Someone out there just greenlighed another party game, and cancel Project HAMMER.
Decent Strikers numbers though.
felipeko said:Anyway.. let me forget this Madden thing and enjoy my last 3 months on GAF...
On topic: Why did PS3 fail? :lol
jonabbey said:They just have to.
jonabbey said:And you know this how? The only numbers that anyone ever put forth for the PS3 came from iSuppli, who were pricing components at market prices, not at Sony's cost to manufacture. We know the cost of the Blu-Ray drive has fallen considerably, and Sony is cost reducing the motherboard and such as well.
At some point, Sony has to have the 65nm Cell on their boards, those chips have been prepped for some time from what Digitimes has reported. The RSX should be there as well soon if not now, as they don't have to worry about scaling the EDRAM down with it like Microsoft does with Xenos.
There's too much money for Sony to make on Blu-Ray sales and on PSN sales, Home microtransactions, and retail game discs, for Sony not to be as aggressive as they possibly can in trying to fight for some mind and market share.
They stumbled with the initial pricing, and they've stumbled again in the quality of their marketing, and they've stumbled again with the quality of Lair and (arguably) Heavenly Sword.
They have to understand how the business works and to know that they can't always stumble and expect to survive.
They just have to.
Ranger X said:Hmm...
It seems that the more time advance, the more Sony needs a free GT5 Prologue to turns thing around.
I don't think so. Japan has chosen their console of choice for this generation and that's pretty much it. The picture is pretty clear there.If Sony has any brains left they'll try to at least cement their position in Japan (they can still take over the Wii, long term, with games like Monster Hunter 3, DMC, RE5, FFXIII, MGS4, etc.).
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Ether_Snake said:That's like saying "Well there's no reason another studio can't beat Disney and Pixar, all they have to do is make Toy Story caliber movies and it's all set!".
They know quite well how difficult it is to make a game for a Nintendo platform if you're not Nintendo or a big name Japanese company. It's not even that easy for Nintendo to begin with, hence they always have to rely on the same names, mainly Zelda/Pokemon/Mario/Metroid/Star Fox.
You know it's true!
Ether_Snake said:If Sony has any brains left they'll try to at least cement their position in Japan (they can still take over the Wii, long term, with games like Monster Hunter 3, DMC, RE5, FFXIII, MGS4, etc.).
It's currently behind by ~1m units, and looking ahead, it's going to fall further behind this year. A LOT.Kodiak said:So what kind of numbers are you expecting? Theres no chance its gonna be as low as Xbox 1.
Yeah, this was the month of separation. The 360 has been running close to the Xbox despite the price difference, but I don't see their trends converging again.beermonkey@tehbias said:For comparison, Xbox sold only 146k in August 2003, and that was at the magic price point of $199.
The 360 market is not Xbox redux despite what some keep claiming.
KeithFranklin said:Will Sony also turn around and give $100 checks to people that have already purchased a PS3, particularly the ones after the July price cut?