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NPD Sales Results for August 2014 [Up4: PS4 #1, XB1 last week sales 2x last Jul week]

I was referring to both.

Layton & Ace Attorney sales...are depressing...

I don't want to talk about them...or other games that underperform. :-(

I know AA doesn't do too well (hence the digital only Dual Destinies) but I though the Layton games sold fairly well? I mean, they made a new game like every other year for six games!
 

crinale

Member
Nintendo should be extremely reluctant to lower the WiiU's price until they sell all the stocks they have. By the way with their primary chip vendor (Tsursuoka factory of Renesas Electronics) closed months ago I’m wondering if they are even producing extra WiiU.
 
I'm not sure wth is supposed to be misleading about attach rates. It's stated right there as attach rates. The point of comp wasn't PS4 v. XB1, which is presumably what's getting people all huffy. It was gen over gen, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered to go back and find Madden 08 numbers.

Good grief.
 

Euron

Member
Looks like the X1 will top the PS4 this holidays sony shouldve had a game other than driveclub ready
If this isn't sarcasm then what makes you think this way? Sony does have LBP3 as well.

I really want to get an Xbox One just for MCC and possibly Sunset Overdrive. It really boils down to what the deals are on Black Friday. If I can get the SSO bundle for $349 or $399 with a $50 gift card then it's an instant purchase for me.

If not, then I guess I can just settle to play MCC on systems owned by friends and family members. But I am really wondering how SSO will do. Even though I am a huge Halo fan a single game (well ok it's a collection of three excellent games and a disappointment) doesn't really justify a $399 purchase for me.

In terms of exclusives in 2015 Sony is WAY ahead of MS for me. Bloodborne and Uncharted 4 are from two of my favorite developers ever. Meanwhile at MS, Halo 5 sounds good so far but 343 have a lot to prove. Quantum Break isn't really doing anything for me personally, I do not like the direction Fable Legends is going in at all, and I'm not a big Tomb Raider fan and am disappointed that ROTTR is cross gen.

As for the mainstream market and overall sales, I am very curious as to how
much the MCC will sell and how much it will actually boost Xbox One sales.
 

Mory Dunz

Member
Wii Infinity was actually second last year below the 360 on its launch month at least. Do they have any plans with the NFC? Nintendo kept saying Skylanders, etc. would use the Wii U's NFC, but we haven't heard anything yet, have we?

Oh, oops I was wrong.
Not really sure about the Wii U's nfc.

Wii U annoys me. So I'm gonna study.
 
I'm not sure wth is supposed to be misleading about attach rates. It's stated right there as attach rates. The point of comp wasn't PS4 v. XB1, which is presumably what's getting people all huffy. It was gen over gen, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered to go back and find Madden 08 numbers.

Good grief.

NeoGAF never fails to disappoint no?
 
Looks like the X1 will top the PS4 this holidays sony shouldve had a game other than driveclub ready

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You'd make a great analyst, you should see if you can intern with Pachter.

Nice one. LOL
 

Ty4on

Member
Nintendo should be extremely reluctant to lower the WiiU's price until they sell all the stocks they have. By the way with their primary chip vendor (Tsursuoka factory of Renesas Electronics) closed months ago I’m wondering if they are even producing extra WiiU.
Didn't they kinda confirm by saying (paraphrasing ofc) WiiU production in 2014 would have a small cost on profits that they have almost as many WiiU's in stock as the forcasted sale in 2014?
Good grief.
XB1 hate get's pretty strong some times. Post something remotely giving it the edge and boom.

Edit: Fuck, I overthinked and thought 1321 were like WiiU's annual total T_T
 
just for kicks

Wii U total in Japan in August 4-August 31 (tracking period off by a day, but w/e)
Media Create: 49328
Famitsu: 42778
Dengeki: 51091

Wii U US+Japan total~110k (probably less)

so marc^o^ how's it going?
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Wii U sales are slightly disappointing; hopefully Mario Kart 8 sales have reached the 1.1 million threshold this month.

Nintendo has to kill it this holiday season, though they tend to overbook November every year. Pokemon ORAS, Super Smash Bros Wii U, Amiibo and Captain Toad will all likely release on the same day, November 21st - it's overkill lol.

Alot is riding on Super Smash and Amiibo in order to achieve their projected profitability - let's hope they market those releases accordingly as September and October are dead months considering their line-up.
 

crinale

Member
Didn't they kinda confirm by saying (paraphrasing ofc) WiiU production in 2014 would have a small cost on profits that they have almost as many WiiU's in stock as the forcasted sale in 2014?

Thanks. Then again if that's the case chance of price cut is quite slim..
 

AniHawk

Member
Get mad all you want but the wii was a fad.

It's sales dropped off like a rock and the casual crowd has gone to mobile not wii u.

this is so true. the thing people need to realize is that the wii wasn't competing against video game consoles. it was competing against going out for bowling or watching a movie or activity saucers. more importantly, it was competing against us, the gamers. 900 million units of software sold to children, older people, women, and other demographics who don't matter, of that 500 million units coming from third-parties. and 500 million units of software may sound impressive, but keep in mind that that's the entirety of software that moved on the nintendo entertainment system or the game boy, and those systems are really old, not to mention weak.

in conclusion, the wii's rise and fall was unprecedented for a market leader, and that means it was just a bad thing for that market and not for the market as a whole because the wii was not a video game system. thank you.
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
Wii U sales are slightly disappointing; hopefully Mario Kart 8 sales have reached the 1.1 million threshold this month.

Nintendo has to kill it this holiday season, though they tend to overbook November every year. Pokemon ORAS, Super Smash Bros Wii U, Amiibo and Captain Toad will all likely release on the same day, November 21st - it's overkill lol.

Alot is riding on Super Smash and Amiibo in order to achieve their projected income - let's hope they market those releases accordingly as September and October are dead months considering their line-up.

Wait releasing Hyrule Warriors & Bayonetta 2 in September (alongside Just Dance, Skylanders, Disney Infinity, Pacman, etc.) makes it a dead month? How the heck is that "dead" compared to the past 2 months in comparison? Smash 3DS = October, which is pretty big.

Yeah Miracle Mask did pretty badly...but Layton & AA did a good deal worse than it.

Eeek.... I actually meant Azran Legacy. Did it do worse than that?
 
Wii U sales are slightly disappointing; hopefully Mario Kart 8 sales have reached the 1.1 million threshold this month.

Nintendo has to kill it this holiday season, though they tend to overbook November every year. Pokemon ORAS, Super Smash Bros Wii U, Amiibo and Captain Toad will all likely release on the same day, November 21st - it's overkill lol.

Alot is riding on Super Smash and Amiibo in order to achieve their projected income - let's hope they market those releases accordingly as September and October are dead months considering their line-up.

Not even 60k is only slightly disappointing?
 

Ty4on

Member
Thanks. Then again if that's the case then chance of price cut is quite slim..

It's far from confimed though and could just be me wanting it. Iwata just said it console production would have a small impact so it could be production costs are simply much lower. You could google the FY report to find the proper quote and judge for yourself.
 
I'm surprised people are still playing the "everythings fine with the console market, look at those hardware launch numbers!" card.

How long into this generation do we need to wait before we are allowed to look at hardware trajectories compared to prior generations and see there is a fairly massive contraction?
How many months more of YoY software sales decline of what was already a stagnant market attributed to generational fatigue before it sinks in that there might actually be a problem with the current console industry?
 

AudioTechnica

Neo Member
No argument from me there. Its high price is just one bullet on the list of problems.

In what world is $299 high (and you can get it refurb at $200)?. The reason people aren't buying the Wii U is that people think it's literally worthless. No price drop will help that.

Truth is most large companies hire a lot of very smart people with alot more data than us to figure out what the optimum price point is and if a company is losing money at a certain price point it's because they're analysts have determined that's the price that will make them the smallest loss(i.e. no chance of profit). That's where nintendo is.
 

wigwag85

Banned
this is so true. the thing people need to realize is that the wii wasn't competing against video game consoles. it was competing against going out for bowling or watching a movie or activity saucers. more importantly, it was competing against us, the gamers. 900 million units of software sold to children, older people, women, and other demographics who don't matter, of that 500 million units coming from third-parties. and 500 million units of software may sound impressive, but keep in mind that that's the entirety of software that moved on the nintendo entertainment system or the game boy, and those systems are really old, not to mention weak.

in conclusion, the wii's rise and fall was unprecedented for a market leader, and that means it was just a bad thing for that market and not for the market as a whole because the wii was not a video game system. thank you.

A video game console is not a video game console.
 

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Wait releasing Hyrule Warriors & Bayonetta 2 in September (alongside Just Dance, Skylanders, Disney Infinity, Pacman, etc.) makes it a dead month? How the heck is that "dead" compared to the past 2 months in comparison? Smash 3DS = October, which is pretty big.

Hyrule Warriors is releasing in September

Bayonetta 2 is releasing in October

The above software titles will not increase Wii U's hardware sales significantly - as such, they are dead months until the build up of Super Smash Bros in November.

Whether Nintendo makes their projected numbers relies solely on how their November & December sales are.
 
what? I don't even... what?
You'd make a great analyst, you should see if you can intern with Pachter.
I honestly can't tell if you're trolling or delusional

What does Sony have coming out this Holiday? It's really not that much of a jump to think Xbox One could do better than the PS4 for Q4. Sunset Overdrive, Forza Horizon 2, and Halo: The Master Chief Collection. That's a baller line-up no matter what side of the fence you're on. There are only so many people interested in gaming consoles and at some point, the number of PS4 buyers will peak where you could argue that the Xbox One market hasn't been completely tapped. Of course, a lot of this is my own opinion and speculation, but there is no speculating on which platform has the better holiday line-up right now.
 

Opiate

Member
XB1 hate get's pretty strong some times. Post something remotely giving it the edge and boom.

It's not "hate." If you post something suggesting the Xbox One will outsell the PS4, it is strongly criticized because of how unlikely it is.

Although of course there are fanboys. Not arguing that. In this case, it doesn't take a fanboy to suggest that your forecast is unrealistic.
 

allan-bh

Member
I'm surprised people are still playing the "everythings fine with the console market, look at those hardware launch numbers!" card.

How long into this generation do we need to wait before we are allowed to look at hardware trajectories compared to prior generations and see there is a fairly massive contraction?
How many months more of YoY software sales decline of what was already a stagnant market attributed to generational fatigue before it sinks in that there might actually be a problem with the current console industry?

I agree.

This generation started with massive sales, but now the reality is not so good. I'm curious about holiday sales.
 
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