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[-viper-]

How exactly do you know this? It sold 550k in October, and seemingly less than 100k in November. Doesn't seem likely. The average PS3 owner is a stupid cocksmoker.

This is true.

The only games that those I personally know with a PS3 have bought MW2 and FIFA 10 in the last 6 months.

 

[Karma]

End-of-year Slim musings:

Sony's pared nearly a quarter off of 360's lead (combining US and Japan) since Slim's launch.

Pared 150k off the US lead since Sept :lol 2.88m Slims vs 2.73m 360s.

WW, inc Europe, they may have taken up to 35% off of 360's lead.

Not bad at all for a few months (albeit a few holiday months).

How do you know the numbers in Europe? Also, Software and profit is the only numbers that matter.

 

[Ridley327]

Let's be clear that I don't have this month's NPD numbers. I have no magic leak and I certainly don't have a subscription.

That being said, I feel incredibly confident in asking you--are you sure you want Silent Hill numbers?

Well, they do say that the equation for comedy is tragedy plus time. Maybe we'll laugh at them together some day...

:-(

 

[mysticwhip]

I am not surprised. At any of the numbers.

 

[Road]

These are the LTD I have. Wii Fit is missing December.

[WII] Wii Play with Remote - 12,500,000
[WII] Mario Kart Wii - 8,136,100
[WII] Wii Fit - 8,030,000
[WII] Wii Sports Resort - 4,529,300
[WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii - 4,210,000
[WII] Wii Fit Plus - 3,530,000

 

[axiomnightmare]

Well, review score difference between Rabbids and Mario Kart is only 2%, so you can't really argue the quality difference aspect.

 

[Cruzader]

End-of-year Slim musings:

Sony's pared nearly a quarter off of 360's lead (combining US and Japan) since Slim's launch.

Pared 150k off the US lead since Sept :lol 2.88m Slims vs 2.73m 360s.

WW, inc Europe, they may have taken up to 35% off of 360's lead.

Not bad at all for a few months (albeit a few holiday months).

Hey since you more informed about this stuff, will Sony meet that deadline they had that ppls thought they were out of their minds? Like 33M WW or something hardware?

 

[a Master Ninja]

Anybody with the full numbers know if enough people broke street date with Bayonetta that we got some numbers for it?

 

[Grecco]

bullshit,he said explicitly the 360 version of mw2

IIRC he never did. Even if he did, hes going to win that one too.

 

[Stumpokapow]

And the xbox 360 came out way before the PS3, so it selling as much as it is right now is a success for Microsoft anyway.

This really is not either good or bad news for Microsoft. It's true that in most generations, most consoles are past their prime as they head into year 5; the PS1 on the other hand was a slow burner and had sales spike much later that usual. I don't think it's safe to assume that Microsoft sales "should" be slowing down a year before Sony sales do, though.

 

[phisheep]

Is there any way to even explain the Wii's sales? I mean, does Nintendo even know why it's such a beast?! How is it possible! 3rd parties must be banging their head trying to tap into that, they must be! No matter how much they claim to be done with the Wii, how can they see these sales and not want some of that?!

Simple.

PS3 and 360 sell to gamers. Wii and DS sell to people. There are far more people than gamers.

 

[Lostconfused]

Anybody with the full numbers know if enough people broke street date with Bayonetta that we got some numbers for it?

random side note. Love your new avatar.

 

[X26]

It can only mean good things when the market leader is only spreading the wealth to themsleves

 

[jibblypop]

[WII] Mario Kart Wii - 8,136,100

Those sales are so incredible. It is my favorite Mario Kart game by far so that is really nice to see.

 

[John Dunbar]

Well, review score difference between Rabbids and Mario Kart is only 2%, so you can't really argue the quality difference aspect.

:/

 

[Paznos]

Great PS3 numbers but man Uncharted 2 deserves quadruple what's it's sold.

 

[K.Jack]

That just amazes me. That system will just not go away...

Shit there's still GAF members who have never owned one!

Is that sad?

 

[AceBandage]

Well, review score difference between Rabbids and Mario Kart is only 2%, so you can't really argue the quality difference aspect.

No, but you're also trying to compare a long running franchise that has constantly been great and well selling, to one that is a spin off of a spin off that probably didn't even get a 10th of the marketing or budget.

 

[Stumpokapow]

These are the LTD I have. Wii Fit is missing December.

[WII] Wii Play with Remote - 12,479,100
[WII] Mario Kart Wii - 8,136,100
[WII] Wii Fit - 8,030,000
[WII] Wii Sports Resort - 4,529,300
[WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii - 4,210,000
[WII] Wii Fit Plus - 3,530,000

Wii Fit did not move substantial amount of product in December. The game was immediately discontinued from print and aggressive discounting and channel starving occurred when Wii Fit Plus was released.

Remember that since Wii Fit was not released stand-alone, the channel management for it was fairly tight and so if Nintendo wanted to starve stock in preparation for the handoff to Wii Fit Plus it would have been quite easy to do so.

I would assume the sales were low-mid 5 digits, but to be safe it's fair to say "below 100k".

 

[Ninman]

holy Sh...
I predict 30 Mil wolrdwide LTD for NSMBW
and DS should pass ps2 LTD on the usa next year..

 

[axiomnightmare]

No, but you're also trying to compare a long running franchise that has constantly been great and well selling, to one that is a spin off of a spin off that probably didn't even get a 10th of the marketing or budget.

Agreed, but objectively the fact remains.

 

[red shoe paul]

Simple.

PS3 and 360 sell to gamers. Wii and DS sell to people. There are far more people than gamers.

Good way of putting this.

 

[Sipowicz]

Big month in sales, everyone should be happy.

Should put away the Wii HD rumors because "Wii sales have dropped significantly" (according to most journalists / analysts) bullshit for a while.

1up/IGN/gametrailers/Kotaku et al must be crushed. poor fanboys

 

[Azelover]

Wow, Wii is just, some 3rd party software has to sell sometime on wii, right?

No...

Third party software doesn't need to sell anywhere.

Complete fallacy, games are games period. First, second or third party, who cares really? It's a ridiculous qualifier to begin with.

 

[andymcc]

Anybody with the full numbers know if enough people broke street date with Bayonetta that we got some numbers for it?

this is the most important question in this thread.

 

[boiled goose]

It can only mean good things when the market leader is only spreading the wealth to themsleves

Yup. They are trying really hard to keep it to themselves. So hard, that they are even preventing third parties from releasing quality software on the system.

Nintendo is truly evil and greedy. Poor third parties.

 

[Jigsaw]

IIRC he never did. Even if he did, hes going to win that one too.

he was asked "even the 360 version?" and he said "yes,i think so" or something like that

and no he is not going to win it as the bet ends next npd,so nsmb need to sell like another 2 million in january

 

[sloppyjoe_gamer]

Good lord, is there anyone left who doesn't have a Wii at this point? I expected Nintendo to rule December, but holy crap!!!

 

[feel]

Nice all around. The end of this year should be incredible if Sony and MS market their motion stuff well.

 

[Bluemercury]

It can only mean good things when the market leader is only spreading the wealth to themsleves

i dont think that's nintendo fault to be honest.....

 

[Pennywise83]

Never forget:

 

[Angelus Errare]

Wait, PS3 outsold 360 for the year? Why don't I believe that?

 

[grandjedi6]

Exactly...

Listen, while 3rd parties could have definitely had a stronger lineup for the Wii, whatever hypothetical game you're thinking of wouldn't have done as well as you seem to think. There aren't a legion of secret hardcore gamers just waiting patiently for someone to release a so-called "real" game on the Wii.

 

[Dipswitch]

Holy mother of God @ Wii and DS sales. Who the fuck is still buying all of these?? I figured every household in American had at least two (each) of them already by now. :lol

Also, props to Sony for outselling the 360. They've staged a good comeback this year. Kudos.

 

[Crash Station]

Guess the fad is over

 

[Gospel]

he was asked "even the 360 version?" and he said "yes,i think so" or something like that

and no he is not going to win it as the bet ends next npd,so nsmb need to sell like another 2 million in january

You seem mad. What will you do if he does win?

o dear i hope not this?

 

[Sadist]

We need SH numbers... no matter how depressing they will be.

 

[Tiktaalik]

I don't know; would you say Apple probably shouldn't have upstaged the classic iPod with the iPod Touch / iPhone? I wouldn't say Nintendo intends to rest on their laurels until the hardware sales bleed dry.

I agree. I don't think just because the Wii is selling well means anything about what Nintendo may or may not release in the future. Nintendo seems to have been proactive in releasing new iterations of the DS early and that's clearly worked out well for them in terms of keeping sales strong.

 

[Lostconfused]

Good lord, is there anyone left who doesn't have a Wii at this point?

Yes.

 

[HylianScribe]

Where art thou, Spirit Tracks? Sales are tailing off way below Phantom Hourglass' numbers in Japan, and it doesn't look like Spirit Tracks will come anywhere close to Phantom Hourglass' numbers here in North America.

 

[Attack You]

Mario Kart Wii is ricockulous. I hardly see used copies floating about. Is that destined to be the best selling racer this gen?

 

[Deleted member 30609]

Listen, while 3rd parties could have definitely had a stronger lineup for the Wii, whatever hypothetical game you're thinking of wouldn't have done as well as you seem to think. There aren't a legion of secret hardcore gamers just waiting patiently for someone to release a so-called "real" game on the Wii.

wai fo epic mickey

 

[gofreak]

How do you know the numbers in Europe? Also, Software and profit is the only numbers that matter.

My musings were about Slim's performance...the whole point of slim was to push more hardware and make them more competitive (with the obvious knock-on for total software and so on).

Re. Europe, MS claimed they were 1m clear right at the end of August. Which is handy for post-Slim comparisons.

So I factor in a gap of 1m there.

IF Sony closed that gap since Slim's launch in Europe...which is maybe possible...then the WW gap shrank by 35% since slim's launch.

(US gap at end of August was 7,653,400 in 360's favour. Japan gap was 2,166,105 in PS3's favour. For a net gap of 5,487,295 in those territories. Gap is now 4,202,228 - reduction of 1,285,067 (23.4%). Don't worry though...the rate of change will slow considerably now we're out of the holiday )

 

[Nobody Important]

And to think, some people were saying NPD would be boring with all the manufactures releasing their hardware numbers early.

 

[legend166]

I'm sorry, but at this point; I mean when a console sells 3.8 million pieces of hardware in a month, the conversation must shift from "Oh, poor 3rd parties can't sell any software on the Wii" to "Just how damn retarded are these people that they can't sell software on the Wii?"

 

[elrechazado]

Wait, PS3 outsold 360 for the year? Why don't I believe that?

Because it didn't happen? The chart above your post is conjecturefail.

 

[boiled goose]

Agreed, but objectively the fact remains.

Hmm maybe it is online multiplayer? Mario kart wii has some of the best online multiplayer on the system. Maybe that is why it is the best selling mario kart game ever?

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

Holy fuck at Wii numbers. So much for YoY drops.

The software top 10 is ridiculous as well, but the real meat I want to see is the total software, 3rd party software, YTD software, and some of the games outside of the top 10 - how did the rest of the fall heavy hitters fare?

I'm sorry, but at this point; I mean when a console sells 3.8 million pieces of hardware in a month, the conversation must shift from "Oh, poor 3rd parties can't sell any software on the Wii" to "Just how damn retarded are these people that they can't sell software on the Wii?"

We can't seriously be arguing that no one has released a Wii game as good as Wii Play or Mario Kart.

Some 3rd party games should be dragged along for the ride by sheer volume surely? Something like 1 in 25 new Wii owners would have to purchase a specific game last month for it to break 100k.

 

[AceBandage]

Listen, while 3rd parties could have definitely had a stronger lineup for the Wii, whatever hypothetical game you're thinking of wouldn't have done as well as you seem to think. There aren't a legion of secret hardcore gamers just waiting patiently for someone to release a so-called "real" game on the Wii.

You know, I'm not asking for Dead Space or Assassin's Creed on the Wii.
I'm just asking for more than Petz and EA Active...

I mean, like I said before. Nintendo releases quality games that appeal to everyone. Third parties release shit aimed at retarded monkeys.
They don't have to make hardcore games, just good games that are aimed at everyone.
Seems like such a simple concept that only Nintendo can grasp...