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NPD Sales Results for December 2013 [Up2: Xbox One/360 HW, 3DS top system of year]
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Apophis2036
Banned
I think we all realise Iwata's 9M forecast was beyond insane, esp with a holiday line up that consisted of a single Mario game...
What would you estimate WiiU Worldwide lifetime sales are currently sitting at ?.
Bomba GT6 sales, PSV might be pulled off of store shelves soon.
Atari Lynx?
Why do people still act surprised at the Vita's sales? I love the thing and have been a huge Vita fan since launch, but those numbers don't surprise me in any way, shape, or form. The thing is dead besides Japanese games and indie titles. It doesn't help that Sony treats it as dead, too, with their first party output.
because its dead and no bundling will save it.
saves money by not creating more bundles when there is still stock on the shelves
Digital numbers are hard to find. But based on Microsoft's 'go digital' incentives (instant switching) , I would think that they are higher than 0.4m.
UberTag
Member
Vita = Dead because SCEA wished it to die.
They are ultimately and entirely at fault.
The average Plus subscriber probably has a dozen or more Vita games they could play for free right now on top of remote play capability for their PS4s and they simply don't care.
The amount of money SCEA invests in the Vita is $0. We should be thankful retailers continue to stock it.
They are ultimately and entirely at fault.
The average Plus subscriber probably has a dozen or more Vita games they could play for free right now on top of remote play capability for their PS4s and they simply don't care.
The amount of money SCEA invests in the Vita is $0. We should be thankful retailers continue to stock it.
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Is Vita dead? Is life dead?
AstroNut325
Member
A full fledged Android tablet with Vita controls is what I would buy. Think Nexus 7 merged with Vita.
astrogamer
Member
Ouch Vita. I didn't think my original prediction for it was that close
The dude has had to put up with nothing but bad news for the past year(granted, it was all completely their fault), so I imagine he was chomping(or is it champing, lol) at the bit to spout out what he thinks is positives for him.
digoutyoursoul
Member
N Gage ?
A platform without any advertisement by SCEA selling bad? Who would've though?
They're putting everything on PS4. Vita is ignored in north america by SCEA. SCEE and SCEJ at lesat try to push the hardware a bit.
I hope they at least help localise some games because from them, I don't expect anything anymore.
They're putting everything on PS4. Vita is ignored in north america by SCEA. SCEE and SCEJ at lesat try to push the hardware a bit.
I hope they at least help localise some games because from them, I don't expect anything anymore.
ethomaz
Banned
Well the 2.9 attach ratio for retail + digital come from MS, no? If so then the digital sales are 400-500k.
shinra-bansho
Member
Yeah, didn't see the LTD part at first.
Although in theory they could be pretty close - depending on how close the XB1 and PS4 are in December, and how close the Wii U is to 460K.
2.5M wouldn't just be bad in the context of the batshit crazy forecast. It's just bad period.
You can combine that guestimation with the current known shipments of 3.5M to get that I expect globally shipments to be in the realm of about 6M LTD.
Aquamarine
Member
Yep.
Sega Saturn:
December 1995 - 131K
December 1996 - 449K
Vita:
December 2012 - 245K
December 2013 - <95K
Just dance is more fun when you don't have to hold anything while you're grooving. That and 4 people can play without the need of 4 controllers.
theprodigy
Member
Sega Saturn vs Playstation Vita NPD sales comparison, go!
edit: wait I see the Vita makes the Saturn look more like the PS1
There's no firm resolve on the forecast. And nobody inside Nintendo is expecting 9M. They've known since like May that they weren't going to hit 9M. But things were so far off what they initially set the target at, that they had no idea where the number would finally end up. So instead of revising the target with random guesses every single quarter, they just stuck with the initial number until after the holiday season was over, which would be when they would have a firm grip on what the FY sales would actually be. Now that the holiday period is over, they'll give a revised forecast. There just wasn't any point in taking wild stabs in the dark, because they didn't know themselves how the holidays were going to play out. But nobody inside Nintendo has actually been expecting 9M for ages now.
Even for a dead system, it's doing abysmal.
The Vita is much like Dennis McGuire.
metalslimer
Member
Guess we can put the plug in the "PS4 will help Vita idea". No one knows or cares about the system. I had someone see the Vita option in the PS4 menu and wonder what the hell that even was.
There really is no comparison for the Vita. It did much better than the Virtual Boy and NGage but so much worse than everything else
There really is no comparison for the Vita. It did much better than the Virtual Boy and NGage but so much worse than everything else
Releasing a game only on a dead system?
Otakumegane
Member
Well at least good Vita deals might start cropping up again.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Sad for vita but sony wont drop support so its whatever
eddfromtheriver
Banned
Au contraire, the early adopters (more likely than not) have already gotten their XBO's (hence the systems availability), it is now that the price difference will make a difference between the two next gen systems (unless Sony continues to have supply issues).
GT6 is the necessary sacrifice. PD does not need to waste time or effort putting it on PS4. What they need to/probably are already, is getting GT7 ready to go for 2015.
Except then you have to count Ryse as a third party game too, so PS4 first party would be greater than Xbox One first party.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
That dedicated handheld market... man...
This would require Sony properly supporting it in the first place...
We know it's Wii U's best month, so above 460K.
This is US LTD right?
Also, wow at Vita. Looks like PS4 didn't even help the system just like what most(?) were expecting. Who knows VitaTV could be the one helping it
AstuteClass
Banned
Jesus Christ... why oh why won't the Vita sell? What will do it? What black magic is needed to just get people to want it?!
Well that sucks. That's far worse than I'd have even expected...
graywolf323
Member
I'd say Sony as a whole is giving it great support (mostly Sony Japan but we did get Killzone and Tearaway from Sony Europe), it's Sony America that doesn't give a shit about the system
This is US LTD right?
Also, wow at Vita. Looks like PS4 didn't even help the system just like what most(?) were expecting. Who knows VitaTV could be the one helping it
If it mirrors Japan, I suppose an additional 2K a week would be some help.
Debatable. The system gets so few games from Sony, even from Sony Japan. And what it does get are mostly pretty small titles with few exceptions.
Then we have marketing...
digoutyoursoul
Member
Price and games