CosmicQueso
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Why play The Order when Yoshi's Woolly World exists?
Come on, people.
Come on, people.
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NPD Sales Results for December 2015 [Up1: Super Mario Maker]
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Maybe because both are exclusive to their respective consoles and I only have one of those. Besides, The Order looks far more impressive visually.
AkelisRain
Member
Why not both?
gundamkyoukai
Member
And i am saying because the numbers are so close this gen the appeal is even.
X1 does not have the huge user base advantage 360 has.
And from software sales there is nothing to show the X1 user base likes WRPG more .
Or titles that used to be association with them having more appeal on there system .
theprodigy
Member
So how much will the Fire Emblem New 3DS XL impact the 3DS sales in February?
nah but for real 3DS is obviously gonna take a massive hit YoY in Q1
nah but for real 3DS is obviously gonna take a massive hit YoY in Q1
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Nobody has a Wii U?
Welfare
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So how much will the Fire Emblem New 3DS XL impact the 3DS sales in February?
nah but for real 3DS is obviously gonna take a massive hit YoY in Q1
This many.
Obliterator
Member
Fire Emblem is going to sell DAYM well
Wonder if it will appear in top 10. It has a chance not that many releases.
Probably not.
Obliterator
Member
Jarod McChicken
Member
Mass Effect marketing is already locked for Xbox actually. At least that's what the last Mass Effect Andromeda video is telling us. This is the EA channel and the Xbox logo is already shining at the end. I doubt Sony can swipe this one. This and Gears 4 will probably be the two biggest ammo for next Xbox holiday.
Eh I'm not so sure Awakening didn't do it and there are also a two different editions which won't be counted as one game would.
I didn't said likes WRPG more, they like Mass Effect more, but Fallout 4 sold more on Xbox One despite 1.3 million less consoles, and Fallout never had the same connection with Xbox that ME has.
Obliterator
Member
Awakening sold 180,000 in NA opening month. It sold a whopping 63,000 of those digitally opening month due to Nintendo massively underestimating demand and the game selling out.
This game will launch bigger than Awakening. Its charting, and rather easily. Only thing that MIGHT impact that is it being two different SKU's, though its entirely possible both SKU's will chart. Combined SKU's will be top 10 easily.
Not if both editions will sell 50/50. But we'll see.
February is a big month, Awakening sold 117,000 at retail (180,000 including digital) but was out of the February TOP TEN 2013.
A game like The Order 1886 which sold over 200,000 unit was only #9 in February 2015.
To be fair, Awakening shipments were waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay low, indeed the digital sales were very huge, and after first month it legs were really strong.
I think Fire Emblem Fates will sell 200/250k in February NPD at retail. Not sure if will be in TOP TEN honestly... it should, but is not a given imo.
Welfare
Member
With Fallout, that would extend more to ES and Bethesda fans. The next ES game should do very well on Xbox One.
Speaking of which, we did not get an update split on ESO. Would be interesting to know which platform sold more.
Obliterator
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Fire Emblem should be over 200,000 combined, splitting the SKU may have it not chart.
The game itself will be top 10 combined though for the month
The game itself will be top 10 combined though for the month
Welfare
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They don't combine Pokemon versions, so FE will be split as well.
Well if FE fanbase actually grew in US that would be swell.
Heh wonder how there going to track the special edition. As a 3rd SKU no?
Welfare
Member
Also, don't forget that Fire Emblem Awakening has 4 weeks of sales, Fates only 2 weeks.
Soooooooooooooo... hard to say, 180k seem low for Fates in February NPD, so i think it will very easy beat it. Question is by how much.
Yup, there are 3 SKUs.
Special edition ($80)
Conquest ($40)
Birthright ($40)
For a comparation, Media Create track combined Conquest and Birthright, but separate the Special edition.
Soooooooooooooo... hard to say, 180k seem low for Fates in February NPD, so i think it will very easy beat it. Question is by how much.
Yup, there are 3 SKUs.
Special edition ($80)
Conquest ($40)
Birthright ($40)
For a comparation, Media Create track combined Conquest and Birthright, but separate the Special edition.
Well a Special Edition with both Conquest, Birthright and with a 3rd version which is a DLC. Yeah it's confusing.
theprodigy
Member
You know what's even better?
I mean more confusing
Media Create combined Birthright/Conquest but separated the special edition
Famitsu combined Birthright/Conquest and counted the special edition as 2x sales and threw it all together
Dengeki separated them all
Welfare
Member
God damn it.
NPD will either do what Dengeki or Media Create did. Leaning a bit more towards Dengeki.
Not to mention the growth of the NASL, the league right under MLS.
February is the annual surprise 3DSlay month. 2013 had surprisingly strong sales of Fire Emblem. 2014 had Bravely Default chart. 2015 had the New 3DS and Majora's Mask topping the chart. Clearly this means 2016 will have Fire Emblem on top and 3DS the top console thanks to Pokemon RBY.
I'm actually curious as to whether Pokemon will help the 3DS that month. Should be interesting at least.
I'm actually curious as to whether Pokemon will help the 3DS that month. Should be interesting at least.
CosmicQueso
Member
The new Fire Emblem is so f'ing confusing. So what's the difference between them all? And I guess I should only buy one physical to get the other digitally at a discount or something?? What??
Its, more or less, two different games of the size of Awakening (Birthright is more like Awakening in design, Conquest is more elaborate and difficult in its designs), and a third DLC-only path that is a bit more recycled but this largely unique. All of the games share the first six chapters, and otherwise have 27/26 (Birthright/Conquest) unique chapters to them (though there aren't 52 unique maps total, some are recycled but changed in mechanics or objectives).
If you buy one version, the other is half the price.
theprodigy
Member
God damn it.
NPD will either do what Dengeki or Media Create did. Leaning a bit more towards Dengeki.
There is a potential 4th option which I would laugh so hard if NPD actually did it:
have Birthright and Conquest separated, but count the SE as 1 copy of each
that way literally nobody is doing it the same way!
ignore Europe after all those plebs don't even have a release date
being serious though it's probably going to be like Dengeki
Obliterator
Member
Yeah if the sku's are tracked separately that no doubt throws a wrench into my 100% confidence it charts. I was so used to seeing them as 1 SKU in Japanese charts I forgot NPD will likely split them.
Besides that though I guess the other 2 major releases are SFV and Far Cry Primal? These should both be decent / big launches but likely very little overlap in fanbase. FE has Nintendo fans pretty much all to itself that month.
Besides that though I guess the other 2 major releases are SFV and Far Cry Primal? These should both be decent / big launches but likely very little overlap in fanbase. FE has Nintendo fans pretty much all to itself that month.
Welfare
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Major releases in February NPD
Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 4
Street Fighter V
Fire Emblem Fates
Far Cry Primal
Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare 2
Dear god please no.
Obliterator
Member
Hmmm honestly nothing too huge. Primal is going to be way down from FC4 imo and SFV I'm just not sure how big it will be yet. It will do well no doubt, but its only on 1 platform and isnt as big in NPD as say, Mortal Kombat recently. PVZGW2 should do alright for what it is. And Naruto will be ok but nothing big.
So yeah Fates would easily chart if they were combined SKUs. Separating them does change things though
Awakening had a very very tempting promotion with SMT IV. It was a bargain to buy both if you were fan of either. It was a steal if you were a fan of both.
I remember being so jealous D:
CosmicQueso
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Thanks for trying to explain. But holy crap. What.
So, I start with Birthright and then move to Conquest? and a DLC campaign that is recycled but unique?
OMG WHAT ARE YOU DOING NINTENDO
You can start with whatever you want, Birthright is a game that's more in the Awakening vein of design while Conquest goes back to more OG Fire Emblem by removing the map and adding in different objectives (also generally harder).
The third path is a blend of the two in terms of its maps (hence recycled but some are I believe unique to it) but the objectives and story are unique. Its a middle-of-the-road path in terms of difficulty.
Its basically trying to release (and market/explain) two and a half games at the same time, lol. I think its largely done in an attempt to appeal to both sides of the fanbase, ie. pre and post Awakening to a degree since that did introduce a schism... though for more than just gameplay mechanics which is what FE:Fates attempts to fix.
Neuromancer
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I played both. The Order had better blowing people up with arc guns.
Welfare
Member
How the fuck does this even make it past the drawing board?
But can you play as a Focke-Wulf Ta 152H fighter plane in The Order?
Nintendo.
Who else would make two and a half different games, release them at the same time, undercut themselves at retail with a discount, and earn even less money on the Special Edition?
theprodigy
Member
$$$
DriftingSpirit
Member
Nintendo's handling of their software and hardware (handheld), at least in this generation, have left me consistently confused. I hope their next efforts with NX are far more cut and dry.
Primethius
Banned
I wonder if that method is going to harm overall sales at all. I can't be the only one who saw the model, said fuck it and decided not to buy either of the two versions, right? I probably am actually.
The model just made me so disinterested in the game, despite being a life-long FE fan.
That partially obscures the truth, I thought Awakening was a mediocre FE game, so that combined with the new model completely diminished my interest.
spatenfloot
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igordennis
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I legit fell asleep playing The Order in the first hour of the game. I proceeded to keep the game (borrowed from a friend) for 3 months and couldn't bring myself to play the other 4 hours of it.
The Witcher 3 on the other hand... Hundreds of hours on that game, and i actually thought the combat was quite good (its no Dragons Dogma though).
Fates is the second best selling game in the series in Japan, so it clearly worked out there. Only time will tell how it compares in the west of course. But it's really not that complicated. It's essentially just one very big game with 3 different campaigns that each have their own unique quirks.
slavesnyder
Member
Okay, thanks. So they would not be able to raise their sales numbers much more artificially until they actually sell consoles and restock what they sold (as they should).
Only way to catch up would be renaming their warehouses into microsoft stores.