ShockingAlberto
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Wait, are you just counting single SKUs?esc said:
Also, why did you just choose Pearl and not mention Diamond did 1.045 million?
NPD Sales Results for February 2010
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Also, why did you just choose Pearl and not mention Diamond did 1.045 million?
OldJadedGamer said:
Yeah, BC2 will have some impressive numbers I'm sure. I bet it won a lot of the mindshare of the CoD players this time around. It also has more time to move units compared to GoW3. But I guess you never know, this is the most hype a GoW game has ever got, and it certainly has it's own "Dudebro-esque" flavor to it due to the sheer brutality and testosterone. But, it's a single platform game, vs a multiplatform game, one of which will be rabidly snapped up especially by 360 owners.
RustyNails
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Is it fair to assume that 360K is the sales bottleneck for PS3, in light of the shortages? I mean if that's the maximum number of consoles Sony can push in a month, how can they push more consoles than the maximum in subsequent months? Barring the possibility that Sony fixes the shortage problem, PS3 will still sell around 360K units next month. I don't see this happening because PS3's biggest title since MGS4 simply cannot become victim to manufacturing problems. Here's hoping Ninty and Sony fix their probs this month.
Htown said:
I think it'll do well but like I said before PS3 owners don't exactly come out in droves for their exclusives and I have some doubts about a lot of people being interested in a sim racer this gen. Didn't Forza 3 do like 175,000 in it's first month? I know GT has a bigger following but I think interest in the genre has dwindled a little bit this gen, maybe if they added guns to the cars it would be a little different though.
Htown said:
Didn't Prologue sell 4.6m units? I don't even think a prior prologue sold that much, though I could be wrong. It will sell a lot in the States, and it'll sell well in JP. EU will just be a beast of it's own, their car culture is intense over there. Not to mention Top Gear Test Track, and the inevitable publicity that Top Gear themselves will give the game.
Snuggler said:
Despite that E3 beating "definitive" into everyone's skull with a pink baseball bat, GT still has a far greater mindshare with the car culture. Once again, Prologues numbers confirm this.
ShockingAlberto
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GT5 is a strange case. Gran Turismo has a large and very dedicated base. GT has historically done insane numbers.Htown said:
But Sony's never been in a position of being the outside-looking-in on the majority of the market. And, well, 13 million is nuts but it's not totally unheard of anymore.
WasteLand Soldier
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OK so wii has been seeing somewhat of a downward spiral. Some may say its more because it's sold so well since launch that its more coming down to normal. Totally anecdotal but every older woman that i know that has bought a wii, even my own MOTHER has played it once then shelved it.
Again this may just be the wii coming back to "normal". but with that said, what if the "normal" has a bit more sinking to do? or lets say not. lets say wii sits exactly where it is now and stays that way. where does that put sony and MOVE? If and this is a huge but somewhat logical if
everyone and they're mother has a wii then why the fuck would anyone buy a move? Has MS pulled the okie doke on Sony and Nintendo by trying something different with natal?
For the rest of the year MS has so many cards to play that its just insane. Price drop, redesign, natal, Halo. WTF is going on. This fall is going to be insane for MS.
Again this may just be the wii coming back to "normal". but with that said, what if the "normal" has a bit more sinking to do? or lets say not. lets say wii sits exactly where it is now and stays that way. where does that put sony and MOVE? If and this is a huge but somewhat logical if
everyone and they're mother has a wii then why the fuck would anyone buy a move? Has MS pulled the okie doke on Sony and Nintendo by trying something different with natal?For the rest of the year MS has so many cards to play that its just insane. Price drop, redesign, natal, Halo. WTF is going on. This fall is going to be insane for MS.
ShockingAlberto
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Well, then you'd agree that counting GoW3 proper and not the Collector's Edition makes sense, no?esc said:
RustyNails
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Eh. As much as I love God of War series (currently trying to get past Atropos in GoW 2 HD, Titan mode), I highly doubt GoW3 can sell more than GT5...Prologue alone sold more than 4.5m. GT5 is a craze in Europe and Japan. But now, NASCAR heads can join in on the fun too.Truespeed said:
Truespeed said:
No. Not even close. GT will appeal to far greater audiences. I'm hyped for GoW3, but you have to be realistic here. GT is the biggest star Sony has.
acm2000 said:
:lol
I have to check these threads more often.
RustyNails said:
As much as I smh at NASCAR, it will undoubtedly have an impact on sales here in the states. Also, you have WRC (what's left of it, but still loved) joining in the fun for the Euro's, and those that appreciate the best form of racing in the world.
CadetMahoney
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The numbers are sourced only from what Sony tells us.Snuggler said:
Just looked it up, Pokemon Platinum, the THIRD version of a game, sold 805k the opening month.
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Thanks for grabbing the information anyways. If Platinum can do that, I'm very confident in saying that HGSS will open very close, especially with all the nostalgia going with it.
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ShockingAlberto said:
Thanks for grabbing the information anyways. If Platinum can do that, I'm very confident in saying that HGSS will open very close, especially with all the nostalgia going with it.
ShockingAlberto
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Platinum debuted at 805k.Gravijah said:
Edit: That's what I get for going out of my way!
It's around 800k. I wasn't trying to prove anything. I was just trying to understand why people think it's a foregone conclusion that GoW III cannot chart at 1.Gravijah said:
The number NPD Group put out in March 2007 was 800k. I don't know how their system works now; do they separate out the Collector's Edition for all new releases? If that's the case then yeah I guess GoW III has no chance.ShockingAlberto said:
Son of Godzilla
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GT5 has zero chance of being bigger than GoW3 in the US. Beyond Zero. Like, a zero with a little zero inside of it.AniHawk said:
Yes.Gravijah said:
The only real hesistation I have in saying that is that MS seems to be throwing it's full force behind it and they've been batting 1.000 lately as far as what games to get behind. I think it's more that they don't have much else to go to though. It's... weird that they picked FF over BC2.
I just want to get this off my chest: I've never gotten why people argue against the combining of SKUs for something like Pokemon when arguing sales, as if somehow it soils the achievement. They've basically found a way to split the game into two and sell even more than they normally would.
Err, if you are referring to me, I was simply talking about in the context of NPD sales charts. Everyone in this thread is also talking about these games in the context of sales charts. I don't think even the biggest of idiots would argue that GoW III will outsell Pokemon combined.Gravijah said:
charlequin
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Gravijah said:
After a great deal of consideration, I'm extremely certain that it'll outsell both individual versions of FFXIII. GoW3 ought to chart somewhere in the range from 600k - 1m and FF is quite unlikely to get above that range combined. The only situation I can see where PS3 FFXIII beats GoW3 is if like GoW majorly underperforms while FF both improves on XII's performance while also selling quite lopsidedly on the PS3 side -- I think that's a pretty unlikely situation.
Arsenic said:
:lol I was going to put it a lot more delicately than that.
Gamer @ Heart
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Both Pokemon sku's combined will win without a fucking doubt. That shouldnt even be up for debate.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Great to see some fresh discussion in sales threads
Too much wii third party stuff for the last months
Too much wii third party stuff for the last months
Son of Godzilla
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I don't think that exploiting people's neurosis should be applauded. Or even acknowledged.Gravijah said:
ShockingAlberto
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Then we should probably shut down the NPDs as a whole.Son of Godzilla said:
charlequin
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Gravijah said:
I do think there's a pretty good chance that FFXIII (360 + PS3) will be > GoW3 -- I'd probably bet on it, but I wouldn't bet a lot. :lol But I think best-cast scenario for FFXIII is something like 600k PS3, 400k 360 vs. 800ishk GoW3, where the total is greater but each individual SKU is lower.
CadetMahoney
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The 360 version is at no.1 whilst the ps3 version doesn't even chart - the polar opposite of sales performance is just wow and out of the left field. PS3 version would've at least charted I think.savor100 said:
templeusox
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Looks like some of the people who besmirched me last month repented on their Heavy Rain comments and will be relieved of facing my wraith. Plus, I don't really want to go through lst month's NPD and find everyone who was ignorant on the issue.
But let it be said, great job by me last month with the Heavy Rain guarantee. You can't say enough good things about me right now.
But let it be said, great job by me last month with the Heavy Rain guarantee. You can't say enough good things about me right now.
Outtrigger888
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If its any indication for next month, I was at 2 best buys today and both were sold out of the 360 version of FF13, but had plenty of copys of the ps3 version. It was pretty bizarre to see.
Snuggler said:
I guess GT5 will sell 400-500k in US first month, and probably around double that in Euro-territory, and 600k in Japan, and another half million in other territories :-/
It will have much bigger legs aswell.
Not sure about US, but GT5 will probably sell double the amount of copies than GoW3 everywhere else.
NeoGIF said:
Again, I could be wrong, but I don't think it'll be as lop sided as some people expect. More 3-2 at most not 3-1 or whatever it is that people are expecting. Even if the PS3 version is unquestionably better you can't underestimate the 360's ability to sell software vs. the PS3. You have to consider that there are probably more 360 only people than 360 and PS3 owners so I expect the 360 version to do a lot better than most of us would expect. If both of the versions were equal in quality I'd choose the 360 version over the PS3 one but since that's not the case it might be a little different. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up being very close between each version, like under 100K difference.
Joel Was Right
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I don't know people even interpret sales in the context of NPD. I remember Uncharted 2 doing around 800K in the first two months in the US and shortly after that Sony were attributing a figure of 3million to the game. It didn't exactly dominate European sales looking at the UK sales charts but clearly PAL as a region (outside Europe) is something amazing for Sony, something that we don't have the ability to measure.
Similarly, EA announced that Mass Effect 2 had done a million worldwide on the day of it's European launch. There is a common perception that everyone other than Sony talks games sold to retail. I don't even have a common on that. But one thing is for sure, there seem to be different set of rules depending on the platform/publisher.
Similarly, EA announced that Mass Effect 2 had done a million worldwide on the day of it's European launch. There is a common perception that everyone other than Sony talks games sold to retail. I don't even have a common on that. But one thing is for sure, there seem to be different set of rules depending on the platform/publisher.