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[ArkhamFantasy]

Can I be a pessimist and say this is the last big Street Fighter we'll see?

Way to early to say that. If they get things turned around the game can have legs, and even if it doesnt it would still probably be tempting for Sony to fund SFVI for PS5 if people start begging them for it.

This is a terrible launch for the game to be sure, but i wouldnt hit the panic button just yet.

 

[wapplew]

Hardware down YOY is alarming? Console is dead?

 

[Warxard]

With how Japanese Birthright looked, plus all the censorship and cut content stuff covered in gaming media, how untraditional the version releases were, plus 3DS's dawn, I actually thought Fates would open lower than Awakening.

But it's not! Fire Emblem is here to stay.

Pretty sure people outside of shitty image boards don't care about censorship

Shit was gonna sell regardless

 

[JayEH]

Game would not have been made without Sony...

It would have been made. They said Sony just sped up the process. (Which of course backfired)

 

[Boke1879]

Capcom is probably regretting that console exclusivity.

How? They would have sold even less on the Xbox.

 

[mnz]

I wonder how Capcom will come away from this.

(A) "We shouldn't have released the game before all the content was ready to go"

or the more likely scenario....

(B) "Oh, we should have made SFV a mobile game, duh!"

"The time of fighting games is over, let's never make on again"

And then MKXI sells 10 million copies.

How? They would have sold even less on the Xbox.

They would have sold less with one more platform?

 

[onQ123]

Zhuge told me on Twitter there is a mistake with Lego...

The real best selling version of Lego was the PS4 version, not the 360.

And with that PS4 has officially taking over every aspect of the console gaming market besides dancing games.

 

[Ridley327]

You forgot digital.



Legit surprised by Naruto. Biggest Naruto launch month in the US since beginning of last gen. Why?

Bamco did a good job with advertising this as the conclusion to not only this series of games, but as a proper send-off for the Shippuden portion of Naruto with the anime still being in filler hell.

 

[fernoca]

Hardware down YOY is alarming? Console is dead?

Nope.
New3DS was released last year so the jump in sales was that.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

Looking at the hardware revenue YoY and the fact that PS4 is up... Xbox is going to need to drop price.

That only works when Sony can't or won't price match. Thats no longer the case as Xmas 2015 showed.

 

[Wagram]

I'm curious how much the negativity around SFV impacted it. No doubt it caused a dip in sales, but is it at all possible people just weren't interested in this one as much as they were in SF IV?

 

[CosmicQueso]

I imagine SFV would have charted higher in the US had it released on the X1.

Likely would have come in #2 or #3, sure.

Hardware down YOY is alarming? Console is dead?

Of course.

 

[Pancake Mix]

Hardware down YOY is alarming? Console is dead?

Well, dedicated handhelds are hurting, last February had the New 3DS XL launch, and MM3D was the #1 game.

 

[Warxard]

I imagine SFV would have charted higher in the US had it released on the X1.

Yeah it'd probably be top five

But them's the breaks

 

[SilverLunar]

With how Japanese Birthright looked, plus all the censorship and cut content stuff covered in gaming media, how untraditional the version releases were, plus 3DS's dawn, I actually thought Fates would open lower than Awakening.

Vocal minority and/or any publicity is good might be the reason it didn't bomb.

Or the series transcend Internet nerds holding its fate.

 

[wapplew]

Nope.
New3DS was released last year so the jump in sales was that.

Oh, that's explain it.

 

[Omnistalgic]

Can I be a pessimist and say this is the last big Street Fighter we'll see?

Capcom says Street Fighter is a service.

Want the game to last 5 years.

Says it’s just day one.

Shipped the game in a barebones state likely knowing it would be lukewarm received at best until more content is added

Only projected to ship 2 million by end of March

Could be anywhere from 500-700K now

Could easily sell discounted versions to update the game, even a free-to-play one since the game is a “service"

Stated themselves they want the bulk of sales to come from the community spending money on the store, not one off fans who buy the game and trade it in a month later.

Not every game has to debut 2.5 million units to be successful

-_- and that’s for crapping on a genre I care deeply about.

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

Capcom is probably regretting that console exclusivity.

Console exclusivity was the last of this games problems.

It would have bombed as a multiplat as well.

 

[Ray Down]

You forgot digital.



Legit surprised by Naruto. Biggest Naruto launch month in the US since beginning of last gen. Why?

It's the most recent game since the series end, hell even the most recent movie was the biggest in the franchise.

 

[Nirolak]

I'm curious how much the negativity around SFV impacted it. No doubt it caused a dip in sales, but is it at all possible people just weren't interested in this one as much as they were in SF IV?

I suspect the fundamental issue is that people aren't interested in a $60 fighting game that doesn't try to cater to as many audiences as possible (and thus including a ton of content).

If this was an f2p game it would probably be earning more money than it is, though they don't have enough content to even do that right now.

 

[Akai__]

Is there seriously a spoiler for the actual Naruto anime on the 1st page? Thanks, I guess...

 

[Boke1879]

"The time of fighting games is over, let's never make on again"

And then MKXI sells 10 million copies.


They would have sold less with one more platform?

No I'm saying I doubt it would have even sold as much on Xbox as it did on PS4. So they spend more time and resources just for it to under perform. At the end of the day whatever money Sony gave them helped soften the blow.

 

[Devilgunman]

Hardware down YOY is alarming? Console is dead?

Everything but PS4.

Last year XB1 was ~276,000 and PS4 sold more than that. So I can see this month PS4 sale to be at least +300,000 unit.

 

[Regiruler]

This is the Shippuden game ending the series, and it looks amazing! Seriously, have you guys played naruto games or just crapping on Anime in general?

Why so surprised they are selling well?

Yes, I have played generations. It was a completely middling experience, the entire time during which I was thinking "I could be playing Revolution 3 right now".

The focus on Ninja Storm killed the other fighting game series that had far more mechanical depth simply because it had fewer characters and was on an "inferior" platform. To have the word "Naruto" being synonymous with the worse series is completely saddening to me. Hell, the fact that pokken draws from it for its field phase is immensely worrying: there are ways of fighting in a 3D space that are fairly controllable, yet people seem to ignore this in favor of limitless analog movement, which is difficult to control and unfun to play (a well-implemented sidestep is a much better way to go about it, in my opinion).

 

[gundamkyoukai]

It would have been made. They said Sony just sped up the process. (Which of course backfired)

They said don't look for one before 2018 .
Which does not mean they were even going to make one then with how capcom has been this gen .
As in they have not brought out one game that is not a remake or re using assets this gen .

 

[AncientDiety]

Capcom is probably regretting that console exclusivity.

Why? It would not do a whole lot more on xbox and not been made at all right now, game is a service will expand throughout the year.,

 

[Hcoregamer00]

Birthright outsold Conquest.

Guess Hoshido did what Hohrdon't

 

[DriftingSpirit]

This is the Shippuden game ending the series, and it looks amazing! Seriously, have you guys played naruto games or just crapping on Anime in general?

Why so surprised they are selling well?

This is all I am getting from the reactions.

 

[CosmicQueso]

It's the most recent game since the series end, hell even the most recent movie was the biggest in the franchise.

Ah okay. I barely know what anime is, so this is helpful.

 

[SpotAnime]

Naruto games are awesome! Dunno why people keep giving them shade, that anime is very successful in the west and this is the game ending the series story wise. Its kinda a big deal to fans, I’m heavily into fighters, but i’m still gonna buy it event though it’s not a super deep system.

I've taken a few years off, and really only played Naruto: Rise of a Ninja on the 360 since that follows the beginning story arcs. But I loved Asura's Wrath and CC2 does amazing work, so maybe I should get back into the series. I'm just afraid after what, 200+ episodes I won't know what's going on.

But then again, I did say I loved Asura's Wrath, and I don't know what happened there either. So I guess I'm ready!

 

[RexNovis]

Rev. was down YOY, $843m vs $960m

HW down a lot, $292 vs $378
SW was down, $304m vs $339m
Accessories were flat, $246m

https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/708073208570880000

Well yea that makes perfect sense when you consider that the New3DS launched this month last year. Of course HW would be down by a significant margin. I'm sure the 3DS YoY decline is MASSIVE.

 

[PanicFreak]

That only works when Sony can't or won't price match. Thats no longer the case as Xmas 2015 showed.

Well, IMO, they have two options: 1) lower the price; or 2) don't. They have to cheaper than the PS4 to stay "competitive". So doing nothing because you think that Sony may do the same is a sure fire way to be irrelevant, even in the US.

 

[Edge_Maverick]

Can Capcom even reach those desired 2 million copies before the end of FY2016 at this point?

 

[RamzaIsCool]

Capcom is probably regretting that console exclusivity.

Would it really made a difference? The problems of SFV aren't something that are exclusivity related. Not that it wouldn't sell more copies if it appeared on XBO off course.

For that matter I reckon Naruto's split would be pretty big in favor if PS4. I am curious how big, that might give an indication on how well SFV would do on the XBO.

 

[Metalingus5150]

I imagine SFV would have charted higher in the US had it released on the X1.

Releasing on 2 consoles instead of 1? Of course it would have charted highter

 

[ninjablade]

Hardware down YOY is alarming? Console is dead?

were going back to ps2 like era. where only sony consoles real sell great, except games are way more expensive to make, so yes a one console future is probably only one generation away.

 

[CharminUltra]

Fire Emblem hell yessssss

 

[Renekton]

So Street Fighter V will be the final entry in the franchise, like VF5?

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

Extremely disappointed in how Capcom handled SFV, but even I'm shocked at how bad it debuted.

Is it tracking above Ultra SFIV's retail, at least?

 

[Dash_Riprock]

Hardware down YOY is alarming? Console is dead?

Nintendo is dead and MS is getting there barring something bold on their end (Xbox 1.5?).

Sony is doing alright.

 

[AncientDiety]

Well, IMO, they have two options: 1) lower the price; or 2) don't. They have to cheaper than the PS4 to stay "competitive". So doing nothing because you think that Sony may do the same is a sure fire way to be irrelevant, even in the US.

It's not that simple.....X1 actually cost a bit more to manufacture then ps4, they can;t keep dropping the price too soon or they will run out of price drops, they also want to make money off x1 not be in the red.

 

[Welfare]

Is there seriously a spoiler for the actual Naruto anime on the 1st page? Thanks, I guess...

Dedication Through Light's post is a joke. Unless there's something else?

 

[Balb]

Still surreal to see a Fire Emblem game chart in the US.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

I suspect the fundamental issue is that people aren't interested in a $60 fighting game that doesn't try to cater to as many audiences as possible (and thus including a ton of content).

If this was an f2p game it would probably be earning more money than it is, though they don't have enough content to even do that right now.

Yep SFV is a fighting game made like this was 10 years ago .
All fighting games these day even if they don't sell huge amount have loads of content .
$60 for what they asking for at launch not worth it to a lot of people .

 

[FelipeMGM]

Jeff Grub is on fire on twitter with NPD infos

-Naruto outsold SFV on the PS4
-Farcry Primal is outselling FC4 when aligning launches
-Counting all Sku's Fire Emblem was #3

 

[RexNovis]

So if PS4 sales are up year over year, and hardware sales are down year over year, does that mean the other hardware are down even more than the 23% to make up for it?

Am I reading this right?

THe 23% is revenue not units. SO its not as 1:1 as you seem to think it is.

 

[Csr]

I'm curious how much the negativity around SFV impacted it. No doubt it caused a dip in sales, but is it at all possible people just weren't interested in this one as much as they were in SF IV?

Imo past SFIV releases and SFXT had little content for most of the casual audience. Capcom should have content for those people in SFV on release and also should have advertised that content a lot. MKX's success comes from the good word of mouth from MK9 imo. After SFV's release bad word of mouth for both the casual and online competitive crowd made sales drop even faster. That is my take at least.

 

[Nirolak]

Ah okay. I barely know what anime is, so this is helpful.

It's also the last "Storm" game before they switch to a new sub-brand, so if someone wanted to capstone their Naruto Storm experience, this was the time.

 

[Glorified G]

Hardware down YOY is alarming? Console is dead?

What hardware? You have to be more specific as it states that the PS4 is up YOY in the OP.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

PlayStation Store: February’s Top Downloads

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/03/04/playstation-store-februarys-top-downloads/

Yay for Firewatch!
My favorite game so far this year. :}