nincompoop
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Well we already know Conduit is outside the top 20 with 60-70k
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NPD Sales Results for July 2009
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timetokill
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Maybe the PSP version only sold about 4k or so?
Dragona Akehi
Retired
nincompoop said:
Which means that Punchout is >70k this month!
timetokill
Banned
Dragona Akehi said:
Maybe... but not necessarily. Maybe Conduit came in at 61k, at #21 on the chart. And everything else came in at similar numbers... maybe 62k here, a couple 65ks, etc.
Or did we get some other number that we can be sure of on the chart?
lowlylowlycook
Member
Sipowicz said:
Maybe if Sony increased the price to $250?
Dragona Akehi said:
unless Conduit sold 60k. in which case, the game in 20th place (NCAA 2010) sold no less than 61k but no more than 75k. and everything else is pretty much 61k-95k.
so this is what we have:
1) Wii SPORTS RESORT W/ WII MOTION PLUS (WII) 508.2K
2) NCAA FOOTBALL 10 (360) 376.5K
3) NCAA FOOTBALL 10 (PS3) 237.4K
4) WII FIT W/ BALANCE BOARD* (WII) 164.3K
5) MARIO KART W/ WHEEL (WII) 156.6K
6) MARIO KART DS (NDS) 132.2K
7) POKEMON PLATINUM VERSION (NDS) 116.4K
8) FIGHT NIGHT ROUND 4 (360) 116.4K
9) NEW SUPER MARIO BROS (NDS) 101.8K
10) EA SPORTS ACTIVE BUNDLE (WII) 96.8K
11) Wii Play w/ Remote (WII) 61k-95k
12) Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10 (WII) 61k-95k
13) Fight Night Round 4 (PS3) 61k-95k
14) UFC 2009: Undisputed (360) 61k-95k
15) Punch-Out!! (WII) 61k-95k
16) Transformers: Revenge Autobots (NDS) 61k-95k
17) Prototype (360) 61k-95k
18) Major League Baseball 2K9 (360) 61k-95k
19) The Legendary Starfy (NDS) 61k-95k
20) NCAA Football 10 (PS2) 61k-75k
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
How do we "know" that The Conduit did 60k-70k, other than extrapolating an off-the-cuff and not-NPD backed and possibly all-of-North-America "It sold around <x> total" remark from Sega?
Edit: actually, the last page suggests that even that number wouldn't mean 60-70k sales this month. What are people basing this on?
Edit: actually, the last page suggests that even that number wouldn't mean 60-70k sales this month. What are people basing this on?
nincompoop
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Looking back through this thread, how come Anihawk first said Little King's Story is "just under 6k" and then later he said it was "under 12k"? Did he get the numbers wrong the first time? Or is he just saying "under 12k" to make it seem like less of a bomba (while still being accurate since "just under 6k" is still "under 12k")
Zeouterlimits
Member
laserbeam said:
Yeah... while I really enjoy products both companies put out, having such market dominance is a little.. uncomfortable.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
nincompoop said:
Or one or more of the posts was a joke or one or more of the posts was a lie. No one will ever know.
Stumpokapow said:
Anihawk said Conduit sold 60-70k, which matches up with a Sega exec saying they had sold half of their 300k shipment (150k=last month's 72k plus this month's 60k to 70k).
And if Conduit isn't in the top 20, that means everything IN the top 20 sold at least better than 60k.
nincompoop said:
I don't know why he said <6k the first time. The <12k comes from creamsugar, though (outside this forum). It seemed Ani parroted the number shortly after creamsugar said it.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
jvm said:
LOVE seeing Tiger Woods 10 Wii, Punch-Out!!, and Starfy up there.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
timetokill said:
Danthrax said:
Well EXCUUUUUUUUSEEE ME Princesses, for attempting to be optimistic for once!
Omar Ismail
Banned
As Arphamnd B has correctly pointed out, the next exciting thing to watch is the trending of 360 vs Wii.
My guess is that relative sales of the Wii will continue to trend down, though overall the sales of the Wii will go back up due to season effects. The more accurate chart to use to take out season affects would be a monthly marketshare percentage chart.
Absolutely I think 360 will outsell the Wii in September with the Elite price-drop, and will continue to outsell it for the remainder of the year. In fact, I could be so bold and say that outside of NSMBWii totally changing the game (which I doubt) this could be one of the last month's the Wii outsells the 360 in the US.
There's not a single game on the Wii's short-term horizon that will change its fortunes. People keep pointing out NSMBWii, and considering Nintendo's track record you have to respect the chance it has, but it's not a foregone conclusion that NSMBWii will turn around the momentum.
Going into next year, unless the Wii Vitality sensor is a game-changer on the order of Wii Fit (again, Nintendo's track record shows it's a possibility), then I can see MS having an incredibly strong 2010 with a massive lineup of games, carrying the momentum with a big PR-campaign throughout the year hyping up Natal.
I don't think this is a "wait for" type post either. As another poster here pointed out, MS' sales have been trending UPWARDS as their value proposition is continually getting better and better.
Unless Nintendo does something unexpected (or launches a more connected WiiHD), I don't see how they're going to maintain their lead, and then be able to even keep up. And the PS3 is starting to hit the point of irrelevance. People are calling this NPD boring, but I think it's one of the most interesting in a long time.
The next 12 months are going to be VERY interesting.
My guess is that relative sales of the Wii will continue to trend down, though overall the sales of the Wii will go back up due to season effects. The more accurate chart to use to take out season affects would be a monthly marketshare percentage chart.
Absolutely I think 360 will outsell the Wii in September with the Elite price-drop, and will continue to outsell it for the remainder of the year. In fact, I could be so bold and say that outside of NSMBWii totally changing the game (which I doubt) this could be one of the last month's the Wii outsells the 360 in the US.
There's not a single game on the Wii's short-term horizon that will change its fortunes. People keep pointing out NSMBWii, and considering Nintendo's track record you have to respect the chance it has, but it's not a foregone conclusion that NSMBWii will turn around the momentum.
Going into next year, unless the Wii Vitality sensor is a game-changer on the order of Wii Fit (again, Nintendo's track record shows it's a possibility), then I can see MS having an incredibly strong 2010 with a massive lineup of games, carrying the momentum with a big PR-campaign throughout the year hyping up Natal.
I don't think this is a "wait for" type post either. As another poster here pointed out, MS' sales have been trending UPWARDS as their value proposition is continually getting better and better.
Unless Nintendo does something unexpected (or launches a more connected WiiHD), I don't see how they're going to maintain their lead, and then be able to even keep up. And the PS3 is starting to hit the point of irrelevance. People are calling this NPD boring, but I think it's one of the most interesting in a long time.
The next 12 months are going to be VERY interesting.
Are hardware sales even that exciting anymore? The western publisher and development community have spoken already. The hierchy is set in the west for this entire generation:
1) Xbox 360
2) Playstation 3
3) Wii
There won't be a huge change in status quo. The only thing which will happen (currently occurring) is PS3 game development finally geting close to being in parity with 360 game development.
1) Xbox 360
2) Playstation 3
3) Wii
There won't be a huge change in status quo. The only thing which will happen (currently occurring) is PS3 game development finally geting close to being in parity with 360 game development.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Danthrax said:
I'm not really sure why you're going off AniHawk, who was almost certainly either pulling the thread's leg or lying, and I'm not really sure if the Sega quote in question is referring to the US, North America, Worldwide, and I'm not sure if "sold through half of those" refers to a date schedule that aligns with NPD months and I'm not sure "half of those" refers to exactly half or a broader range from, say, 120k-180k.
... so I really think you're going out on a limb.
Stumpokapow said:
yeah none of us are sure what region he was referring to, especially since he's the COO of Sega of Europe. we're going off of Anihawk because he's given a number here or there in the past.
"going out on a limb" is really all we can do. =\
[edit] ah hell, I meant to edit this into my previous post.
I would imagine we could get at least the PS2 number for NCAA 10, I mean NPD went so far as to tell us the grand total.
That would at least put to rest what the range of the Top 20 is, though we can get its somewhere around 55-70k as I do not see the PSP version selling anything amazing
That would at least put to rest what the range of the Top 20 is, though we can get its somewhere around 55-70k as I do not see the PSP version selling anything amazing
SlipperySlope
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Omar Ismail said:
Uh huh. Keeping the dream alive, I guess. We'll see I guess, but that's not likely. As I stated before, Nintendo holds all the cards. They haven't used any of them yet. Price drop, new SKU, new color, redesign on the likes of a slim/lite model.
Microsoft has done many of those, several times. Nintendo can, at any time, twist the knife and pull ahead again forever in this generation.
timetokill
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Dragona Akehi said:Well EXCUUUUUUUUSEEE ME Princesses, for attempting to be optimistic for once!
I hope you're right about it, but the sales-age has gotten to me :lol
timetokill
Banned
Omar/Marc ban-bet time??
Dragona Akehi
Retired
PS: Punchout rules.timetokill said:
timetokill
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Dragona Akehi said:
Now that we can agree on, sales-age be damned
(though it's doing pretty well there too!)Omar Ismail
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SlipperySlope said:
Outside of portables, since when has "new colors" ever been an impetus for boosting sales?
Furthermore, the Wii is already ridiculously slim and lite, not sure what they can do with that.
The biggest one is obviously price drop. My theory on that is thus: The Wii is a love it or hate it console, very polarizing. Meaning, the people that like it REALLY like it, and the people that don't like it, really don't like it. What this implies is that there is less price sensitivity for the Wii, unlike the PS2, PS3 or 360 which are more traditional consoles with a lot of fence sitters. Anybody that is attracted to the Wii, would have already been attracted and a $50 premium wouldn't keep a large number away. Sure you'll get a nice bump in the month the drop happens, but I don't think you'll see a sustained increase... which is actually somewhat rare in general.