Yeah, but how do you account for the horrid Sigma sales!??!!Frillen said:I wonder how many times it has been explained in this thread that Sigma was out for 5 days, 'cause June NPD ended at the 7th of July. Some people must find it hard to read.
Yeah, but how do you account for the horrid Sigma sales!??!!Frillen said:I wonder how many times it has been explained in this thread that Sigma was out for 5 days, 'cause June NPD ended at the 7th of July. Some people must find it hard to read.
3rdman said:Yeah, but how do you account for the horrid Sigma sales!??!!
I can see where you're coming from. I wouldn't like Capcom to compromise on their vision either. But if they couldn pull of on the Wii , why not?
oo Kosma oo said:Yeah but that's all graphic stuff.
If you remade Dead Rising on the Wii it couldn't handle all the zombies on screen I think, so it wouldn't be the same game if you cut their numbers down.
If you remade RE5 with less *sparkzzz* it would still be the same game I seems (so far at least). It's not like crazed villigers have next gen AI or something.
I'm with you on this. I can't shake the feeling that Capcom is using RE4:Wii Edition and RE:UC mostly as Wii market testers though (and to make money, of course). If it does come down to RE5 coming to Wii, I hope they at least don't sacrifice anything in the other versions.AniHawk said:I really, really, really hope they keep RE5 PS360 and play to the strengths of those systems. Capcom can make a "Code Veronica" style entry using RE4's engine for the Wii. As long as the design is done as well as RE4's, and the game is polished overall, it should be fine. A watered down RE5 would be a waste of time.
How is this gen showing that at all? Multiplatform games are in general doing better than exclusive games, unless they're Wii exclusive which is kind of by default. All this gen is showing, more than ever before, is that price matters. A lot.mentalfloss said:I haven't seen the MGS4 gameplay trailer yet, but I saw some screens from gamersyde and it doesn't seem to be a significantly different game -- though I could be wrong. I think RE5 will add some new elements, but no next-gen sequels seem to be doing anything remarkably different from their predecessors, but that's not necessarily a bad thing if it's not expected anyway.
This gen is showing that the real heavy hitters are the exclusives/new franchises.
Speevy said:You mean RE4 graphics? Because RE5 isn't simply RE4 in high definition. It's pretty far from any Gamecube game. Geometry, textures/shaders, lighting, etc.
*paging MFauli, paging MFauli*oo Kosma oo said:Seeing how well RE4 Wii make is (and the Wii in general) is it too far fetched to think RE5 will come too Wii using the RE4 engine?
Before you say that the Wii wouldn't handle it...it's not like RE5 has as many enemies on screen as Dead Rising or something (as far as we have seen), so besides the HD visuals the game could be done on Wii it seems. Either way I'll be playing it...but it's in Capcoms nature to port stuff, plus I'd rather play RE5 with Wii controls then with the 360/PS3 pad (or on PC with mouse + HD graphics).
Haunted One said:heh, when I think about Capcom porting something to Wii, I always think of Okami first anyway.![]()
EktorPR said:Yeah...why hasn't Capcom bothered porting Okami to the Wii? Is it because Clover Studios disbanded and they don't have an additional team to do it? Or perhaps sheer ignorance?
EktorPR said:Yeah...why hasn't Capcom bothered porting Okami to the Wii? Is it because Clover Studios disbanded and they don't have an additional team to do it? Or perhaps sheer ignorance?
Dies Iræ said:It had less than a week on the chart (released July 3rd). It may appear in the July NPD.
May.
Innotech said:Okami port to Wii seriously makes both financial and gameplay sense. the pointer would be infinitely better than the analog on Ps2. I struggled a lot with certain shapes and attacks because of that damned controller. If the Wii would make it easier, and make money for Capcom AND expand the audience that can play Okami, I say go for it.
having owned and played the game, I am quite sure the wii would be able to pull off the gameplay and improve on it. the game pauses anyway to let you paint stuff.AniHawk said:As far as gameplay goes, Kamiya said that it wouldn't work because Okami is more action-centric or something. Then again, Kamiya's a hack so I guess no one should pay attention to a damn thing he says.
oo Kosma oo said:Seeing how well RE4 Wii make is (and the Wii in general) is it too far fetched to think RE5 will come too Wii using the RE4 engine?
Before you say that the Wii wouldn't handle it...it's not like RE5 has as many enemies on screen as Dead Rising or something (as far as we have seen), so besides the HD visuals the game could be done on Wii it seems. Either way I'll be playing it...but it's in Capcoms nature to port stuff, plus I'd rather play RE5 with Wii controls then with the 360/PS3 pad (or on PC with mouse + HD graphics).
Foil said:No thanks. Capcom needs to leave the new RE games like RE5, RE6, etc, to PS3/360/PC. So they can really max out those systems and push the series forward as much as it can. When the next Wii console comes along in the next gen it can get ports of those games.
For Wii, they need to re-release (at budget prices) REmake and RE0 with waggle control, and the RE4 camera as an option. When I say option, I mean make it so that a player can choose to play the games with either the classic fixed cameras or the RE4 behind the back camera. Please both camps with one game. After that, they need to remake RE2, RE3, and RE:CV for the Wii in the same style. That way we'll have the complete collection remade on one console, outside of the new games. Once that's done, they can take an upgraded RE4 engine and create a brand new spin off game for the Wii.
Downgrading the hell out of RE5 to fit on the Wii is a stupid idea. It's better if Wii gets it's own game, so we can have more from the series. If you don't own a PS3 or 360, too bad buy one or miss out on the game. The more RE games the better, imo. People need to stop all this annoying ass whining about RE5 on Wii.
Foil said:No thanks. Capcom needs to leave the new RE games like RE5, RE6, etc, to PS3/360/PC. So they can really max out those systems and push the series forward as much as it can. When the next Wii console comes along in the next gen it can get ports of those games.
For Wii, they need to re-release (at budget prices) REmake and RE0 with waggle control, and the RE4 camera as an option. When I say option, I mean make it so that a player can choose to play the games with either the classic fixed cameras or the RE4 behind the back camera. Please both camps with one game. After that, they need to remake RE2, RE3, and RE:CV for the Wii in the same style. That way we'll have the complete collection remade on one console, outside of the new games. Once that's done, they can take an upgraded RE4 engine and create a brand new spin off game for the Wii.
Downgrading the hell out of RE5 to fit on the Wii is a stupid idea. It's better if Wii gets it's own game, so we can have more from the series. If you don't own a PS3 or 360, too bad buy one or miss out on the game. The more RE games the better, imo. People need to stop all this annoying ass whining about RE5 on Wii.
Foil said:For Wii, they need to re-release (at budget prices) REmake and RE0 with waggle control, and the RE4 camera as an option. When I say option, I mean make it so that a player can choose to play the games with either the classic fixed cameras or the RE4 behind the back camera. Please both camps with one game. After that, they need to remake RE2, RE3, and RE:CV for the Wii in the same style. That way we'll have the complete collection remade on one console, outside of the new games. Once that's done, they can take an upgraded RE4 engine and create a brand new spin off game for the Wii.
Foil said:No thanks. Capcom needs to leave the new RE games like RE5, RE6, etc, to PS3/360/PC. So they can really max out those systems and push the series forward as much as it can. When the next Wii console comes along in the next gen it can get ports of those games.
For Wii, they need to re-release (at budget prices) REmake and RE0 with waggle control, and the RE4 camera as an option. When I say option, I mean make it so that a player can choose to play the games with either the classic fixed cameras or the RE4 behind the back camera. Please both camps with one game. After that, they need to remake RE2, RE3, and RE:CV for the Wii in the same style. That way we'll have the complete collection remade on one console, outside of the new games. Once that's done, they can take an upgraded RE4 engine and create a brand new spin off game for the Wii.
Downgrading the hell out of RE5 to fit on the Wii is a stupid idea. It's better if Wii gets it's own game, so we can have more from the series. If you don't own a PS3 or 360, too bad buy one or miss out on the game. The more RE games the better, imo. People need to stop all this annoying ass whining about RE5 on Wii.
Haunted One said:*paging MFauli, paging MFauli*
Of course I'd love to see RE5 on a console I own, but I think it just won't happen. Isn't Harry Potter on Wii identical to its next-gen brethren (using the 360/PS3 engine), just scaled down in resolution and with lower-res textures, less shading, etc.? It certainly sounds feasible to do something like that - but again, I very much doubt it would happen.
heh, when I think about Capcom porting something to Wii, I always think of Okami first anyway. :p
Mithos Yggdrasill said:Agree. And considered hoy badly Okami bombed, it would be the first thing Capcom should have thought.
It is disappointing that though certain things were improved, the frame buffer and zombie cache were left unchanged from GameCube.oo Kosma oo said:Yeah but that's all graphic stuff.
If you remade Dead Rising on the Wii it couldn't handle all the zombies on screen I think, so it wouldn't be the same game if you cut their numbers down.
But for putting in all that effort to completely redo everything... why not build something new instead, and have it sell better than a late downgraded remake?If you remade RE5 with less *sparkzzz* it would still be the same game I seems (so far at least). It's not like crazed villigers have next gen AI or something.
I can see where you're coming from. I wouldn't like Capcom to compromise on their vision either. But if they couldn pull of on the Wii , why not? As long as it doesn't compromise the game making process that is.
In that case, though, it was made that way from the start. Not built as something taking advantage of X360/PS3 then downgraded for Wii.Haunted One said:Of course I'd love to see RE5 on a console I own, but I think it just won't happen. Isn't Harry Potter on Wii identical to its next-gen brethren (using the 360/PS3 engine), just scaled down in resolution and with lower-res textures, less shading, etc.? It certainly sounds feasible to do something like that - but again, I very much doubt it would happen.
BuzzJive said:You know - being a developer myself - I try not to get any joy in seeing games tank. BUT, I would like to take this opportunity to thank everybody for not purchasing Shadowrun. A $60 Multiplayer only game is not something I'd like to see become a standard. Microsoft was greedy for charging full price and they paid for it.
(Yes - it was #16 in May - releasing on 5/29 - but it's gone now...)
I see posts on forums about it on July 7th, so probably before.davepoobond said:okay, when did Tecmo announce that there were 450,000 copies of sigma shipped?
was it AFTER july 7th?
DEVELOPER DUZNT NO WUT HES TALKING ABOOT DURInnotech said:having owned and played the game, I am quite sure the wii would be able to pull off the gameplay and improve on it. the game pauses anyway to let you paint stuff.
Well, the risk involved would be significantly smaller because of the lower dev costs for a port.AniHawk said:The game bombed pretty bad. I don't think they want to give it another effort in the hopes that it might do well.
I like that one. :lolInnotech said:It tanked like a trench full of Panzers.
3rdman said:Yeah, but how do you account for the horrid Sigma sales!??!!
sphinx said:RE4 sold in the same time frame (5 days) almost double the sales of ninga gaiden sigma.
schuelma said:It's all people have. I do admit I thought the RE4 sales would shut them up. Like most times in life, I thought wrong.
Karakand said:DEVELOPER DUZNT NO WUT HES TALKING ABOOT DUR
Luckyman said:Orly? RE4 released June 19.
What percentage of those sales would a full priced RE4 hit? The price point is just sooo much more attractive.
Innotech said:I see posts on forums about it on July 7th, so probably before.
Foil said:No thanks. Capcom needs to leave the new RE games like RE5, RE6, etc, to PS3/360/PC. So they can really max out those systems and push the series forward as much as it can. When the next Wii console comes along in the next gen it can get ports of those games.
For Wii, they need to re-release (at budget prices) REmake and RE0 with waggle control, and the RE4 camera as an option. When I say option, I mean make it so that a player can choose to play the games with either the classic fixed cameras or the RE4 behind the back camera. Please both camps with one game. After that, they need to remake RE2, RE3, and RE:CV for the Wii in the same style. That way we'll have the complete collection remade on one console, outside of the new games. Once that's done, they can take an upgraded RE4 engine and create a brand new spin off game for the Wii.
Downgrading the hell out of RE5 to fit on the Wii is a stupid idea. It's better if Wii gets it's own game, so we can have more from the series. If you don't own a PS3 or 360, too bad buy one or miss out on the game. The more RE games the better, imo. People need to stop all this annoying ass whining about RE5 on Wii.
I don't see how White Knights or Little Big Planet qualify for ""WOW" exclusivity".Mithos Yggdrasill said:So, I'll say you sincerely that I'm not optimistic for the future of the Wii concerning BIG, quality games from third parties. Yeah, this is not true for all developers and there are (and will be) exceptions (zack and Wiki, irony, comes from Capcom, but we cannot define the game "BIG". it's another Okami in term of sales), but don't expect any "WOW" exclusivity on Wii like White Knights, Gear of Wars or Little Big Planet. Seriously, don't; or you'll be disappointed.
I hardly call over 60,000 in 4 days horrid. We will see next month. :lol3rdman said:Yeah, but how do you account for the horrid Sigma sales!??!!
Lightning said:I hardly call over 60,000 in 4 days horrid. We will see next month. :lol
Possibly because you're crazy? Both are big, flagship titles for their developers and the PS3 itself, both are published by Sony, and both have lots of first-party money invested in them. The same holds true for Gears of War, though this time it's Microsoft funding it and the 360 that's receiving the games. That said, since all the games mentioned are published by Microsoft or Sony, they're technically first party games and as such shouldn't really be compared to titles like Zack and Wiki. But titles like Dead Rising and MGS4 can.The Friendly Monster said:I don't see how White Knights or Little Big Planet qualify for ""WOW" exclusivity".
The Friendly Monster said:I don't see how White Knights or Little Big Planet qualify for ""WOW" exclusivity".
Yeah... first of all, RE4 ported was quite enough, don't need another set of ports/retreads of the first 4 games in the series.Foil said:No thanks. Capcom needs to leave the new RE games like RE5, RE6, etc, to PS3/360/PC. So they can really max out those systems and push the series forward as much as it can. When the next Wii console comes along in the next gen it can get ports of those games.
For Wii, they need to re-release (at budget prices) REmake and RE0 with waggle control, and the RE4 camera as an option. When I say option, I mean make it so that a player can choose to play the games with either the classic fixed cameras or the RE4 behind the back camera. Please both camps with one game. After that, they need to remake RE2, RE3, and RE:CV for the Wii in the same style. That way we'll have the complete collection remade on one console, outside of the new games. Once that's done, they can take an upgraded RE4 engine and create a brand new spin off game for the Wii.
Downgrading the hell out of RE5 to fit on the Wii is a stupid idea. It's better if Wii gets it's own game, so we can have more from the series. If you don't own a PS3 or 360, too bad buy one or miss out on the game. The more RE games the better, imo. People need to stop all this annoying ass whining about RE5 on Wii.
Sharp said:Possibly because you're crazy? Both are big, flagship titles for their developers and the PS3 itself, both are published by Sony, and both have lots of first-party money invested in them. The same holds true for Gears of War, though this time it's Microsoft funding it and the 360 that's receiving the games. That said, since all the games mentioned are published by Microsoft or Sony, they're technically first party games and as such shouldn't really be compared to titles like Zack and Wiki. But titles like Dead Rising and MGS4 can.
Uh what? Microsoft publishes a lot of the "third party" games that top the charts each month. Moreover, I wasn't talking about sales; I was talking about what "wow" exclusivity meant. My criteria had little or nothing to do with sales.nategc said:you know.... i was thinking that too....but the top selling games on the 360 is third party games and SOME first party games. On the ps3, theres nothing...they all selling the same amount. On the wii, its mostly first party. So your logic is kinda flawed but note worthy at best.
Innotech said:its not that bad for a port of an older game.
Haunted One said:*paging MFauli, paging MFauli*
Of course I'd love to see RE5 on a console I own, but I think it just won't happen. Isn't Harry Potter on Wii identical to its next-gen brethren (using the 360/PS3 engine), just scaled down in resolution and with lower-res textures, less shading, etc.? It certainly sounds feasible to do something like that - but again, I very much doubt it would happen.
heh, when I think about Capcom porting something to Wii, I always think of Okami first anyway.![]()
You logic is kinda flawed too... This year Halo3 and GTA will eat most of X360 sales, and you know, outside Microsoft and Rockstar the others publishers don't care about those 2 games.nategc said:you know.... i was thinking that too....but the top selling games on the 360 is third party games and SOME first party games. On the ps3, theres nothing...they all selling the same amount. On the wii, its mostly first party. So your logic is kinda flawed but note worthy at best.
AniHawk said:Oh yeah. I forgot Sigma bombed. Is anyone really surprised though?