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NPD Sales Results for March 2016
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Undead Fantasy
Member
I really hope this is a wake up call for Capcom. It's not OK to release a bare bones game.
I have no clue what that is, but I no being in the Pokemon world helped sell pokken.
Chobel
Member
Thanks!
DecoReturns
Member
Pokemon spin-off don't always sell.
It's misconception that the Pokemon Brand always sells on its own, it doesn't.
It's misconception that the Pokemon Brand always sells on its own, it doesn't.
Mass Effect
Member
I'm still not sure if Y2Kev simply hates The Order: 1886 and trolls the shit out of it or if he really likes the game. lmao
You'd be surprised, there were people defending this business model in numerous threads. It was sickening. People all agree the gameplay is great but we're not talking about the gameplay, we're just talking about the content. I've seen so many people say "lolz well there's Survival and that's Arcade" "I can go online and play people, that's what fighters are for lolz" and "casuals don't matter" that it's ridiculous. The truth is that in order for this game to make due it'll have to gain additional content that goes beyond what the FGC has mostly been associated with in tourneys and what not which doesn't cater to them and that pisses a lot of them off. Yeah the FGC has kept SF going but they weren't the ones who made SF4 get all those sales, that was casuals. The game was a massive throwback that people loved and did well.
Capcom needs to pray to Sony to get more money to help this game and hell have Sony take over the reigns on marketing and extra features and content, just to guide them because if Oni and his people thought they were doing well for casuals pre-release then said they "underestimated single-player" post-release it's obvious they don't know what the hell they're doing.
Capcom just has to do a re-release, put this on PSN+ and hopefully a Rocket League-like success comes from it because without that it's done.
I say they gotta do this
- Bring out tons of content to the base game, needed content and not half-assed trials that can be done in no time, real content for people OUTSIDE OF THE FGC, catering to the FGC got them in this situation in the first place
- Put a downsized version of the game with 4 characters or so on PSN+ for a month
- Put a F2P version of the game with 2 characters up for people to downlown, limited
- Release a "Super Street Fighter V" or a "Street Fighter V + Alpha" with everyone from S1, extra content and have Sony market the shit out of it
- Continue to make stuff for people OUTSIDE OF THE FGC because the FGC is fine with gameplay and characters
If they do that they'll be fine but this game needs a Rocket League revival ASAP. If they get that, they're good. If they don't? They're done.
OnionPowder
Member
please tell me I'm not too late on this
Perfect
SatoAilDarko
Member
Come on Nintendo vs. Capcom.
It's the best chance of a Capcom fighting game being a hit again.
It's the best chance of a Capcom fighting game being a hit again.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Street Fighter isn't niche.
But word of mouth,combined with a fairly atrocious pricing model fucking destroyed that game.
I bought Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition for $39.95AU right near launch. Street Fighter V Deluxe is $139.95AU digitally right now.
They can go fuck themselves for that bullshit.
CalamityPixel
Member
6 Million Unique players for KI.
Jesus christ, who would have thought that had been the next gen launch title to survive.
Jesus christ, who would have thought that had been the next gen launch title to survive.
It's a good fighter and also Pokemon, a brand as strong as Star Wars.
ethomaz
Banned
It is cumulative across XB1 and PC, no?
Jawmuncher
Member
Yep, SF isn't niche. But the word of mouth hurt the game something bad.
Boy Wander
Member
There are ways of expressing that rather than a bullshit "lol wii u got no games". I own a Wii U and I bought neither. You make it sound like Nintendo owners are desperate and would hence buy anything.
Sammy Samusu
Member
But it's shocking really.
PS4 is slaying worldwide and SFV was very anticipated.
Sure, the game lacks content, but the same can be said for Splatoon, Pokken and many other games that came out recently.
Something else went wrong here, and I wonder how this is going to affect some of the third-party PS4 exclusives, especially coming from Capcom.
Sony clearly didn't do their marketing job right, they also paid for the development of the game, and it bombed on critic and user reviews, the same can be said about that SF4 port. They are messing with the image of an iconic franchise here, and from a third-party partner, no less!
I mean, SO5 is coming out later this year, it's going to bomb, and nobody will give a fuck. But SFV? It's not just a regular bomba, it's an important title, and Sony was behind it.
SE and FF7R might be the next victim.
PS4 is slaying worldwide and SFV was very anticipated.
Sure, the game lacks content, but the same can be said for Splatoon, Pokken and many other games that came out recently.
Something else went wrong here, and I wonder how this is going to affect some of the third-party PS4 exclusives, especially coming from Capcom.
Sony clearly didn't do their marketing job right, they also paid for the development of the game, and it bombed on critic and user reviews, the same can be said about that SF4 port. They are messing with the image of an iconic franchise here, and from a third-party partner, no less!
I mean, SO5 is coming out later this year, it's going to bomb, and nobody will give a fuck. But SFV? It's not just a regular bomba, it's an important title, and Sony was behind it.
SE and FF7R might be the next victim.
Valkyr1983
Banned
Congrats to Ubi!
And capcom, I still bought street fighter 5 day one but only because I figured it would have arcade mode and customizable vs CPU options
But according to elitists us filthy offline casuals don't matter
Oh well, I've already gone back to USF4 and will stay there for now
For shame capcom, you were the chosen one
And capcom, I still bought street fighter 5 day one but only because I figured it would have arcade mode and customizable vs CPU options
But according to elitists us filthy offline casuals don't matter
Oh well, I've already gone back to USF4 and will stay there for now
For shame capcom, you were the chosen one
Stone Ocean
Member
AE was not a full priced game though.
please tell me I'm not too late on this
It helps of course but there is only so much that brand recognition can do to help just like what happened to amiibo Festival and #FE
How well do you guys think SFV would have sold if it had the inital content of a Street Fighter mainline title? No backlash or bad word of mouth? Their projections were 2 million. Would it have hit that?
In this day and age word of mouth seems to be more important than ever, but does it carry so much weight to result in sales like these, for such a longstanding and recognizable brand?
In this day and age word of mouth seems to be more important than ever, but does it carry so much weight to result in sales like these, for such a longstanding and recognizable brand?
Pokemon in a fighting is gonna sell. I haven't played it myself but pokken looks like a mediocre fighting game. So I don't think it sold for it's fighting mechanics.
Yes, clearly SF5 failing means FF7R is going to bomb.
Tallshortman
Member
pokemon isn't close to star wars as a brand in the US. I mean maybe during the 90's craze but now it's not remotely as valuable.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
I'm impressed that there were 6 million unique players for KI. That has to feel good for MS and Iron Galaxy.
Yeah..... I'm sure it's mainly Sony's fault and not Capcoms. lulz
Sony was behind Bloodborne so why don't you bring that up
Melchiah
Member
Three exclusives.
This is a huge leap in logic here. Sony did do their marketing right in regard to this game. Gave it tons of attention. But when you release so little content and for that price. No matter how good the gameplay is. WOM of mouth spreads.
I mean Bloodborne did fine.
Steverulez
Member
Its engagement/unique users numbers so its counting people logging in. No idea how many packs they sold
Thank you so much for sharing this.
Effigenius
Member
Hard to say. Cutting out xbox may have been just as bad and probably contributed to the negative word of mouth. Gleefull fanboys who wanted it to fail.
get2sammyb
Member
I still don't think it would have hit it. I know people may think this is revisionist history going on, but I never felt like the hype was there as it should have been for Street Fighter V - even before the backlash.
The reason for that? I'm not sure. I think Sony pushed it as hard as they could have, contrary to what the poster above said. Perhaps it looked too similar to previous games? I dunno - but I never felt that groundswell of enthusiasm surrounding it that you'd expect.
That said, with a full slate of content, it obviously would have done much better than it has.
Undead Fantasy
Member
please tell me I'm not too late on this
This is just too perfect.
Pokken is a good fighter, has good brand recognition, has good online, has good modes and lots of things to unlock for fun to customize your character.
That helps with the casual market, the important market that makes your fighter sell and grow. And since it's the first game in the series, all that and more is even more important to get it to sell.
The whole "but Wii U owners needed something to play" doesn't even fit the situation and only makes Street Fighter V look worse in your dumb comparisons since it's on a system like PS4 and PC and has good brand recognition to be instantly noticeable on the market and not hidden by other games.
That helps with the casual market, the important market that makes your fighter sell and grow. And since it's the first game in the series, all that and more is even more important to get it to sell.
The whole "but Wii U owners needed something to play" doesn't even fit the situation and only makes Street Fighter V look worse in your dumb comparisons since it's on a system like PS4 and PC and has good brand recognition to be instantly noticeable on the market and not hidden by other games.
Chobel
Member
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
I just came in here to see 👀 pokken blow up SFV. Thats a damn shame Capcoms and Sony
SF4 had the luxury of a decade of anticipation as well. Same with MvC3. Lets say it launched with all the bells and whistles. I still don't think SFV would have sold close to 4.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
PC sales aren't going to show up on an NPD chart though..
Sammy Samusu
Member
They were 100% behind the game, paying for its development and everything.
You think they didn't take part in the creative process and shit? I'm blaming both Capcom and Sony.
We know Sony is working with SE on FF7R, and we know they are planning to sell the game in chapters or whatever they are calling it. Awfully similar to SFV.
And I never said GOING, I said MIGHT. There's a chance that SE and Sony will both learn something from this traumatic SFV situation. SE needs to be careful with the way are handling this remake, and Sony needs to cut fatter checks if they want to deliver quality third-party exclusives.
Undead Fantasy
Member
There's no way they would have hit that 2mil, at all. With that said, they'd do much better than they are right now, much much better especially with word of mouth spreading about the game. It could spitball into some steady sales especially with added content. Given how things are now they're going to have to do something to change the negaitvity and then hope that it can be spun into something positive because as is when most think of SFV they think of "negative". Rocket League for example, when most thought of that it was "positive". They gotta change the negative into a positive and then hope that builds up steam.