Really, are these accurate numbers? So blop3 is the least selling one out of all of them?
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NPD Sales Results for November 2015 [Up3: Combined Hardware For PS4 + XB1 + Wii U]
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Really, are these accurate numbers? So blop3 is the least selling one out of all of them?
KillerMan91
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Well digital is taking bigger part of launch sales nowadays than back during blops 2 and 1 but even factoring that yeah it's lowest opening for blops COD.
Not all that surprising as MW3/BLOPS 2 was the high point of COD sales.
igordennis
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Yeah Neil has said that the whole studio (300 people) are working extremely hard (probably crunch mode) on it to hit the release date in march.
And yet no active narrative about the doom of the COD franchise this time around while Halo 5 is being dragged through the mud by some people.
I think this shows that the FPS market is crowded, and overly saturated and nothing to do with the quality of the franchises.
cartographer
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BO3 is still a monster seller, but the earlier CODs were frequently even bigger monsters.
Plague Doctor
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decline of COD has been discussed for years. Halo 5 showing decline is a first for the franchise, of course it get's more attention.
Not accurate if it's the best selling game since 2013.
I think it's over 6.5m.
Edit: Not sure now.
igordennis
Member
Its accurate, george has given the information and he is a reliable as possible. Its not over 6.5m
cartographer
Member
For the BO series? Yes, it's accurate.
KillerMan91
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Not to mention percentage wise the drop in sales for Halo is way way bigger than for COD. Also COD is yearly series which in my eyes makes the drop for COD more natural.
Go back to every November NPD thread. COD decline is talked about in pretty much all of them.
Hm, no i don't agree with that. I haven't consistently heard that tone since Ghosts. The entire segment is in decline, it seems. And given these numbers the H5 numbers actually look pretty good. As did the Titanfall numbers, those actually look fantastic now in retrospect.
BLOPS 3 is up compared AW. Not sure about Ghosts.
CosmicQueso
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One of those two franchises still debuts at #1, significantly ahead of all other titles released, the other franchise just fell off a cliff and is barely clinging to the top 10. One franchises' steady decline is discussed every single year, the other franchise just nose dived sharply with one release.
"Dragged through the mud"... talk about a persecution complex.
Wait... wait a minute. How many copies do you think H5 actually sold?
Night Angel
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Maybe you're not paying enough attention.
And somehow the decline of COD makes the lackluster sales of Halo actually amazing in retrospect? Olympic gold in mental gymnastics, man.
In your first paragraph, your taking what I've said out of context. I'm guessing no, he feels awful that he's out of work, but I'm presuming he feels very proud of the work he's undertaken and completed even if it didn't sell that well.
Regarding interviews and the skill of being interviewed against actually doing the job, I completely agree with. I see it a lot. I feel people will often learn the right answers for questions, without actually having the understanding. Contractor's tend to do this a lot, probably through agency push. I like to be very hands on and practical with interviewees and ask people to take technical tests.
We have the numbers for PC US November (+2 days more because it is for the whole month)
Fallout 4 did 900k in US in November.
Blops 120k
Source Steamspy:
So if I am not miss tekken, the best selling Black Fridays go like this : Nintendo (2.05M) -> Microsoft (1.7M) -> Sony (1.5/1.55M).
Ok, Halo 5 didn't release at number 1 last month? And it's on 1 platform compared to COD being on 5 different platforms.
Yes, if you can't understand what i'm saying maybe you need hep. If the entire FPS segment is in decline.......
COD is up compared to last year, but even if it wasn't, Halo 5's drop compared to previous entries is much more pronounced unless I'm confused
CosmicQueso
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No really, answer the question please. How many copies do you think H5 sold? I want to make sure I understand what you're qualifying as "good" before we take this to the next step.
We have the numbers for PC US November (+2 days more because it is for the whole month)
Fallout 4 did 900k in US in November.
Blops 120k
Source Steamspy:
I wish we had some like steamspy for psn and xbla
Oh, so now releasing at number 1 doesn't matter anymore. gotcha.
justsomeguy
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like-for-like on platform aren't cod blops and halo 5 both ~1m sales give or take for their first month? Genuine question, not following it close enough.
CosmicQueso
Member
Gonna try it one more time.
How many copies do you think H5 has sold to date in the US?
I ask, because if you think it's 3 million, then yes, I can see how you'd say that was good. Unfortunately, H5 isn't there.
If you said 2 million, same thing.
If you said 1 million, then I question your judgment a bit.
See where I'm going? There's a lot of misinformation out there. I want to know if you're listening to the bad info and are innocent or if you know the real answer and are just delusional.
Why can't you just answer the question to contextualize what you mean by "good."
I'm better than a third grader in Basketball, doesn't mean I'm good.
Edit: Well my reply wasn't needed. I thought more had happened between the posts
you are dodging the question.
I might be mistaken, but from what I understand cod is about 2m per platform
1.5M+ including bundles (not including digital sales). Yay or nay?
Being number 1 in the charts means shit if you got there by selling 500 copies.
Well you know. Fallout 4 was #2 and that still sold more than Halo 5.
So no, number 1 doesn't matter. This is a sales thread. Not a ranking thread.
Night Angel
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If the entire FPS segment is in decline, and one specific game declines by a much larger magnitude, it's still awful, dude. I understood you, you were just wrong.
Being number one doesn't matter if everyone else did poorly.
Didn't Zhuge confirm Halo 5 did 1.3 million including digital in its first month w/ bundles included. Halo 5 digital was roughly 30%... this was just for October, not what it has done in November.
I thought that digital percentage was only the first day or week or something.
So it was 1.3 million at best.
Is it though? COD is up this year, and Fallout which is an open world RPG and fps, is way up. Hard to say if the fps genre is in decline simply because Halo 5 is.
Well it was only one sale for a week in October, so that would make sense. I didn't mean LTD 30% just what it did first month of release. (which would be a week in October)
tfur
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You meant this window?
Love you, Lara. See you in PS4
Poor Lora Craft got pounded.
Thank you for the gifs.
CosmicQueso
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The month 1 split for H5 was just about 67:33 in favor of physical excluding bundles.
Takes life to date (through end November), physical and digital, excluding bundles, to the 1.5-1.6 range. Sure someone has a bundle number somewhere. Throw that on top.
For a mainline Halo game. That isn't good, even on one platform.
Takes life to date (through end November), physical and digital, excluding bundles, to the 1.5-1.6 range. Sure someone has a bundle number somewhere. Throw that on top.
For a mainline Halo game. That isn't good, even on one platform.
You think Sony or any company for that matter would tell you we're delaying a game 4+ months because the release schedule is too packed?
Also battlefront sold better than any other Star Wars game, I understand that it has a lot going for it. It would be interesting to see if it would have sold as much or more if it was action adventure or something
Yeah, at one million between the first two months, that'd be something like a 66% decline, or at least 50% even if we're generous with digital.
It's not like there aren't a lot of Xbox Ones out there either, so the issue would be more with the franchise. Call of Duty isn't selling 80%+ of its US copies on PS4, so we know there's a much higher sales ceiling on the system.
CitizenCope
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"nvm" has got to be your new tag. Don't know why you aren't so sure about your posts, your a great contributor. I think we are well beyond 100 times you've posted this. lol
Good Guy Gone Bad
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Blops3 is up compared to a previous entry while Halo is down. Also this is the 12th COD while this is the 6th Halo game. The 6th COD game was MW2, so...
NDP_Mulcair
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Sure!
Electronic Arts's leading title 'Star Wars: Battlefront,' the third-best seller of the November 2015 U.S. Games Industry Sales (New Physical Channel) report, sold 2.10 million unit sales including bundles, or 1.725 million units looking at the software side of things.
So if we look at the top three software when doing a like-to-like comparison factoring in all bundle sales, we have:
1.) Call of Duty: Black Ops III - (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC | Actvision Blizzard)
4.89 million unit sales including bundles
2.) Fallout 4 (PS4, Xbox One, PC | Bethesda Softworks)
2.54 million unit sales including bundles
3.) Star Wars: Battlefront (PS4, Xbox One, PC | Electronic Arts)
2.10 million unit sales including bundles
Has any other game come near 33% digital?
My one and only real curiosity with sales threads is how we will trend towards digital into the future.
I prefer the instant of digital (getting into a game wise), but prefer the ownership of physical copies shelf wise (for resale). I'm a collector of many things after all.
Obviously it is not a Treyarch game, but Aquamarine confirmed last year that Modern Warfare 3 was the sales peak of the franchise. I'm not sure anything is going to touch it, even if retail and digital were accounted for.
I think it would of sold astronomically more if it was a 3rd person action adventure with rpg elements, plus multi-player.