Where was that confirmed?
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NPD Sales Results for November 2015 [Up3: Combined Hardware For PS4 + XB1 + Wii U]
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Where was that confirmed?
The whole point of those tweets is to argue he wasn't wrong when he wrote his article.
In any case, this is off topic here and this will be my last tweet on the matter. You've not read his article as you've stated so there's not really a point to further discuss this.
harrisk954
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That is simply untrue. (I believe based upon what has been posted earlier in this thread and in others)
Plus, PS4 sold more TR
E than XB1.Cthulhu_Steev
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If your CV is up to the standards of your GAF posts i doubt you'd get' bombarded'. Far from it. Brain dead, lacks empathy.
opticalmace
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edit: nm, misread.
I can't calculate, can't you put it in plain terms for me.
Something like if every 360 RoTR Tomb Raider played 78 minutes a day for 4 days while being in the pause screen for 10% of the time how many enemies will have been shot in total if you kill 6 enemies every 5 minutes.
-MD-
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RedAssedApe
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That is simply untrue. (I believe based upon what has been posted earlier in this thread and in others)
Plus, PS4 sold more TR
i think the post was sarcasm?
Er, actually I meant Black Ops 3 pushed PS4 above Xbox One thanks to the marketing deal.
If the BO3 bundle for PS4 did not exist, PS4 would not have sold more than Xbox One in November.
Don't think we know the platform splits just yet.
Nameless
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That is simply untrue.
Plus, PS4 sold more TR
I was being sarcastic.
He means attach rate of the 360 install base, I think.
To be fair, he wasn't wrong, reality just turned out to be false.
cartographer
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Maybe 200k isn't the number you should be looking at when we're talking about 360 attach rate?
NDP_Mulcair
Banned
I said "as for software."
"As for software" is referring to a comparison I made between the barebones standalone software sales on The NPD Group's data feeds with the combined total of everything including bundles.
Comparing standalone performance with total performance.
I never made any direct statements about any bundle sales.
opticalmace
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Oh I see, my mistake. I thought he meant the fraction sold on 360 vs XB1.
harrisk954
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Isn't that one of the biggest problems with the gaming media? Too many opinion writers/bloggers and not enough hard news/long form/investigative reporters that actually use credible sources. It's all about hits on their websites.
CosmicQueso
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Attach rate, my friend. Not split.
ROTTR achieved 100% MAU engagement across all Xbox One and Xbox 360 MAUs that played ROTTR Life to Date.
opticalmace
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Coulomb_Barrier
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By the end of December 2016, I think the gap could be 2 million between the PS4 and Xbone in the U.S. That would give the PS4 an unassailable advantage when negotiating further AAA third-party partnerships.
harrisk954
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nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
Yeah, there seems to be many people, who I'm sure also hated on Halo pre-343, that say they hate Halo because 343 ruined it. Because saying they liked it once convinces everyone their opinion is valid.
I think the hate stems from popularity, and the fact that it's the preeminent franchise in Xbox, so receives deferred hate from "that OS company that makes my life hell" trope from the 90s.
PanicFreak
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Imru’ al-Qays;188797532 said:
I wonder what Microsoft will do with Halo. I know I said this last NPD thread but I don't know how they can justify the same level of investment in the franchise if sales have fallen off like they have. The writing is on the wall, Microsoft has to invest more heavily in new IP. More than that, they need some very highly reviewed (90+ MC) hits.
I wonder, what 343 can do to bring fans back into the fold? If not for Halo but for another franchise.
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(not trying to be a downer, but it is what it is. Only 3DS is doing well in Japan)
But how many tombs were raided on the 360 as opposed to tombs raided on the Xbox One?
Thanks.
So given this statement everything Kuchera says is correct. No idea what you guys are talking about.
anexanhume
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Wii U sold 240k.
CosmicQueso
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100% of the tombs raided by MAUs on the Xbox One platform played by MAUs on the Xbox One platform that played ROTTR on the Xbox One platform were raided by these aforementioned MAUs. This is unprecedented MAU engagement for this set of MAUs.
This math checks out, certainly.
Wow, so in rest of the world its something like:
PS4: 20 million
Xbox One: 3-5 million
Just goes to show how significant a home territory loss for Xbox One is in November. It's an utterly dead console everywhere else except US/UK and it simply cant afford to lose there.
That math is correct, except for the premise. He was talking about the attach rate on 360s in the US.
Have you SEEN mainstream media? It doesn't matter the form, it's almost ALWAYS about pageviews, viewers, ratings, advertisers, etc. CNN and Fox News (who I would assume fall into your latter category) sensationalize things to get people into a news-baited feeding frenzy... so you'll watch/surf their content so they can make money... from advertisements.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying even the "professionals" have similar motives. I think AP, Reuters, and possibly BBC News are the closest news (of any sort) that are unbiased and (at least not blatantly) driven by ad-money... So when people aren't paid at all (or are paid terribly) to write about games, I guess I don't get my hopes up that they're going to be doing much more than writing their opinions and about what they're passionate about/against... not too many people are passionate about news/long form/investigative reports on "vidya games"
If true, just another reason to believe CD is the one responsible for the decision of this if the studio can't be bothered to work on Sony platforms in-house since 2006.
PanicFreak
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Attach rate equals sales of game divided by total consoles sold
Sorry, posted before seeing that you addressed it with someone else.
Stone Ocean
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I think their best bet at this point is to try and cater to nostalgia with a "back to basics" sort of deal. Work with what people love about your franchise and stop trying to take a piece of the CoD pie.
That part is very small. I believe 90% of that sales are during Black Friday week.
JayhawkerStL
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While Sony GAF is dancing in the streets, the reality is, the XB1 is doing fine. Nearly 1.3 million is not a bad total. Yes, it lost to the PS4, but if you own an XB1, who cares. Microsoft just added over a million users to play games with, and it no longer feels like it is going to slide into WiiU sales territory.
If you like the XB1, it's a great time to be playing games on the console. They had a great year, and a great year coming up, in terms of software line-up. The sales totals are more than enough to keep third parties making games for the console.
For the first year, it was interesting to see sony dominate and really take over the mindshare for this generation. I have no idea why some people get so excited each month to be reminded that Sony won that mindshare. All that matters now is if the the box you play games on is selling well enough to be continued to be supported. How many more or less people are playing on any other platform has no bearing on anything.
funkystudent
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Kuchera just tweeted this. Surely this is referencing ROTTR, right? If so, shouldn't he have asked that question before posting his opinion piece?
https://twitter.com/BenKuchera/status/675362367669145600
Love Ben. <3 Do them mental gymnastics. DANCE FOR MY ENTERTAINMENT!
But seriously. The porting a game to multiple platforms is the cheaper part of development. Sure you might save something being on 1 platform but the vast majority of a games dev budget is done on asset generation and just creating the engine in the first place.
Actually I wonder how the business of porting works this gen. Last gen the consoles where fundamentally different and porting to PS3 from 360 could be time and money sink. These days they are basically the same hardware with a few things changed so I dont know how that works. I have noticed there has not been as much outsourcing of port work.
It'll never slide into Wii U territory, but worldwide sales of Xbox One is closer to Wii U than it is to PS4.
Beer Monkey
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When the hell did it ever feel like that?
(I own all three, FWIW)
Honestly, regular third-party AAA publishers can't afford to to NOT port to both (absent moneyhats).
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I'm hoping that a nice Rise of the Tomb Raider flash sale will show up on Xbox Live shortly! They gotta get money back!
harrisk954
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Reminds me of Don Mattrick's famous: "First console to reach 10 million wins the generation" statement with a new qualifier:
In the U.S.
0.06% out of nearly 45m 360 sold in the US means nearly 27k copies of the game sold on 360.
Split is around 175k Xbox One and 25k 360. Seems like a reasonable ratio.
PanicFreak
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I don't think that will work. People seem to be tired of Halo. I think they should rotate 343i off of Halo after Halo 6 and see if they can create something new and exciting.
The more important question on that approach would be, how does 343 make a game that doesn't get immediately panned because it's made by 343? In every Halo thread, I read comments about how bad a developer 343 is.
RedAssedApe
Banned
been some decent deals on the disc version already
Black Mantis
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Think you're digging too much, no need for him to qualify it as a next gen console, as that's pretty much a given, seeing how that's precisely the way it's been done for decades. Can't see Microsoft rocking the boat by going the Steam Machine route, when that hasn't been proven to work yet and especially how they tripped up when launching the X1.
Thanks, I guess it's bad comparatively, but I imagine they'll take what they can get.