Beerman462
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I hope it's real.
NX Controller Rumor [Up5: Original was fake, and thus this is too]
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PantherLotus
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aaaaand now we're comparing low-quality birds eye view pics of blackberry screens in low lighting to high quality pics of whatever this thing is in better lighting and at an angle
i am so out of even right now, i literally cannot
i am so out of even right now, i literally cannot
Here's a shot of a vita. It's bad quality but you can still see the screen internals light up. Notice that the screens don't actually look 'black' when lit up, they have a lighter shade.
The color of the 'NX' screen is the same exact color and reflectiveness of the plastic casing of the WiiU controller.
James Scott
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I think someone posted that the Tactus patent mentions Nintendo. I'll look it up
Here https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/comments/4bnzsw/several_tactus_technology_patents_reference/
UnemployedVillain
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. . . The purpose of not using buttons is to allow free form interfaces. The purpose of using that is to give them the same tactile feel as a button.
How does that defeat the purpose???
packy34
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The fact that the original photo has been around for days now is enough proof for me. No one has been able to debunk it. Not that photo, and not the new photos. No signs of photoshop, no other obvious signs of fakery.
I know some people will continue refusing to accept it until Nintendo makes it official, but come on. Perfect fakes don't exist.
I know some people will continue refusing to accept it until Nintendo makes it official, but come on. Perfect fakes don't exist.
It's actually old tech. One of the companies behind it has been around since the early 90s, just like touch screens had been around for years before becoming standard. Or HDTV existing for many years.
I'm sure costs have decreased over the years. Which is perfect for Nintendo- old tech that looks new. Right up their alley. Add a slide to turn it on and off and I completely expect it as possible.
Maybe this phone is #teamfakeNot all screens are the same. The NX screens are supposedly the freeform display tech from Sharp, which haven't seen much commercial use yet. But for that matter, here's another Sharp screen (Aquos Crystal smartphone):
Has a very similar black, highly reflective look to it.
Obviously can't prove this is a legit leak, but don't think the screen is what would out it if it were fake.
CD'S BAR
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Well that's true. But Nintendo must've thought it was a good idea at some point to draw it in the patent that way.
I think you guys are giving fakers too much credit. The only thing that makes me skeptical is that a leak like this hasn't happened before with Nintendo hardware as I recall. It did happen with the 360 though.
Not all screens are the same. The NX screens are supposedly the freeform display tech from Sharp, which haven't seen much commercial use yet. But for that matter, here's another Sharp screen (Aquos Crystal smartphone):
Has a very similar black, highly reflective look to it.
Obviously can't prove this is a legit leak, but don't think the screen is what would out it if it were fake.
That's definitely true. However, we have several different shots at different angles, and one with the WiiU in it in the same shot. There's even a light shining on the NX controller.
Camp1nCarl
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Interesting. Hard to judge without using it myself, but all I got to hear is games like Animal Crossing or what not and I'm probably there lol.
Already Torn
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Tactics isn't free form, it's only in certain areas.
That hand is clearly fake.
Already Torn
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I could make that phone in five minutes. Believe me, I could. Confirmed fake.Not all screens are the same. The NX screens are supposedly the freeform display tech from Sharp, which haven't seen much commercial use yet. But for that matter, here's another Sharp screen (Aquos Crystal smartphone):
Has a very similar black, highly reflective look to it.
Obviously can't prove this is a legit leak, but don't think the screen is what would out it if it were fake.
razoftblend
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I guess my feelings are pretty much indifferent, but that looks more like a consumer-grade version rather than a devkit unit. Even if Nintendo have finalized the style/look of the controller, I doubt they would hand those "finished" versions out to developers/testers when they can just keep on using the devkit units. That would be more cost efficient than to Nintendo. Even for the reveal of Wii U, weren't they using essentially put-together parts for the demo units? Again, the design could be true from what people in the industry are saying, but these pictures in particular don't add up to it, specially since no one can say for sure they have seen it in person.
And lol at that Wii U consumer grade controller.
And lol at that Wii U consumer grade controller.
Actually I saw a video of the rep saying they can put them anywhere they like.
Dark Cloud
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Is there more of a consensus if this is true or fake?
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As much as I am part of #teamfake, I wouldn't compare any high quality screen of today to a Wii U game pad screen. LCDs have come much closer to the glass in the last couple years
Also the tactic thing isn't going to happen on a system that's supposed to be affordable. Each of those buttons might as well be motors/servos. Not cheap.
Also the tactic thing isn't going to happen on a system that's supposed to be affordable. Each of those buttons might as well be motors/servos. Not cheap.
Have you seen the UE4 demo gif? That is, IMO, the most damning evidence of all that it's fake.
It's like that speech Gordon gives Batman in the Dark Knight. You use guns they buy bullet-proof vests...
The general populace become too clever for regular photoshop fakes? 3D printing baby.
Kiddy Dong
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Another interesting perspective on Reddit from a "former nintendo qa tester". May or may not be true, idk what to believe anymore.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comm..._controller_pictures_leaked_by_reddit/d1bbl2o
https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comm..._controller_pictures_leaked_by_reddit/d1bbl2o
This image. (click to enlarge). it wasn't in the quoted posts, perhaps I edited after everyone quoted me. But we have both screens at the same angle, and the NX controller even has a light shining on it.
Now, unless they've got some new material that has a weird texture and completely hides the screen, it doesn't really reflect like most screens. Of course, the images are angled and it's hard to tell either way. But it just looks fake to me.
Shrike Alvaron
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Here's a shot of a vita. It's bad quality but you can still see the screen internals light up. Notice that the screens don't actually look 'black' when lit up, they have a lighter shade.
The color of the 'NX' screen is the same exact color and reflectiveness of the plastic casing of the WiiU controller.
The square is the screen itself, the black around it is... Not screen, bezel. The screen and the bezel are colored different and have different reflective properties. But with the NX, the ENTIRE face of the controller is a screen, so of course there's no "square" or anything inside it since that entire glass front is one consistent screen with the same reflective properties. Also, the Vita there has an OLED screen which I think is responsible for its particularly lighter shade, other LCD screens tend not to be so blue when off.
I mean seriously, is this what people are resorting to now? I'm not entirely sure it's REAL, but the deniers are really grasping at straws to desperately try and prove it's fake :S
packy34
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There's no real evidence that this was 3D printed either. In fact, the sculpt is way too precise for it to have been printed by a lower-end consumer-grade printer. Assuming this was faked, someone spent a lot of money to do it.
yeah but you notice how it reflects light in a bluish haze in the image.
My S6 also glows in the same manner.
I'm just saying, it's something to look at. Looks fake to me.
Urban Viking
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Well, I didn't exclude that possibility. Backlit & printed acrylic sounds like a reasonable explanation, actually, and somewhat sophisticated for a fake.
packy34
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The only thing that proves is that the UE4 demo was running on it. Running the image through photoshop filters shows zero tampering. If it did, I'd be with you, but it doesn't.
Shrike Alvaron
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I edited my post, the Vita has an OLED screen which do tend to be more blue like that when off. Other LCD screen tech doesn't have the same blueness to it.
It is what it is, but I'd rather put it through its paces before accepting the leak be real.
The Stranger
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How can we know for sure if the cups actually leaked onto the desk or if they are fake?
Hmmm
^There ya' go. Took me under an hour, and I could send it to a 3D printer with a few minutes of extra prep. Then it's just a matter of inserting a screen, or photoshopping reflections onto the 3D printed chassis.
But...like I said, that doesn't mean it isn't real. But it's simple enough that it's really, really easy to produce, if someone had enough motivation.
Will be interesting to see how this turns out.
A skilled 3D artist would have no problem whatsoever to create that image, with the office, reflections, wood, typical coffee stains (i mean, the entire desk is very clean, but it does have coffee stains)...
Someone like Andrew Price from Blenderguru would do that with his eyes closed... using free opensource software.
Personally, i'm still leaning towards fake. It's definitely doable in 3D. That said, it's also doable physically. Use a laser cutter for the glossy screen, a 3D printer... And the biggest flag is still that this looks identical to a patent image. And the first leaked screen was definitely photoshopped.
DataStream
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There seems like plenty of ways to augment this base controller with tactile input (see DS slide pad, the various sketches of handles in this thread). It's easy to fall back into standard input schemes and given the size it seems like that could happen in a more functional way than the Wii U (where you basically are saying screw the gamepad as it is almost too unwieldy already).
There is plenty of interesting haptic feedback tech hasn't been commercialized at this point.
actually this brings up a good point i hadn't considered - the controller should/would be connected pretty hard to the actual dev kit. there are 3ds units out there that don't need to be, so maybe this is a test unit, or maybe even something from a design firm nintendo outsourced? i'm not sure. it's possible this is the actual consumer-ready version if that's the case. at least with wii u and 3ds, nintendo bolts everything down.
Honestly, I'm not sure what to think at this moment. It's still a prototype so I'll wait to jump to any conclusions. I like the idea of custom control interfaces but touchscreens are always hit or miss with me. I like mah buttons.
It's mah phoooone!! Lol literally posting this on it right now.
Not all screens are the same. The NX screens are supposedly the freeform display tech from Sharp, which haven't seen much commercial use yet. But for that matter, here's another Sharp screen (Aquos Crystal smartphone):
Has a very similar black, highly reflective look to it.
Obviously can't prove this is a legit leak, but don't think the screen is what would out it if it were fake.
It's mah phoooone!! Lol literally posting this on it right now.
Early Wii U devkits GamePad did have some kind of monstrous cable connecting it to the console.
This... actually brings up a VERY good point.
SinCityAssassin
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We're all going to die someday. Why bother even pushing buttons.
True. Unless their policy has changed - and given the reported nature of the NDA being strict even by NDA standards, it seems unlikely anything related to NX is being freely moved about an office.
kubricks
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Did I just see a virtual B button on one of the screen shot....? Oh my...
I have used emulator of some sort on my smart phone for years, and I can never solve the problem of imprecise input because I can never be sure the exact button location without looking. This will be no different.
Please don't do a buttonless gameing console Nintendo, please don't.
I have used emulator of some sort on my smart phone for years, and I can never solve the problem of imprecise input because I can never be sure the exact button location without looking. This will be no different.
Please don't do a buttonless gameing console Nintendo, please don't.
Still #TeamReal. All of speculations just seem too much trouble to go through. It seems to me that the most obvious answer is the most correct, in this case at least.
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This said... the lower sounds like a valid point.
Edit:
This said... the lower sounds like a valid point.
AcademicSaucer
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Interesting. And it's funny everyone with 'insider info' comes out of the woodwork to confirm it's real/fake.
Is there any gaffer with experience that can confirm/deny the statements made in the reddit post?
foxuzamaki
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I mean he's right, that thing wouldnt be on some dude's table next to his WiiU gamepad, he that thing would be strapped and bolted down so nobody could take it with it being extremely hard for anyone to take pictures of it without being caught, and even if he successfully managed to get pictures and get it out of whatever facility if he posted these online, it should be incredibly easy to track him down.
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