I did not know about this, lol this is fantastic.
NX Controller Rumor [Up5: Original was fake, and thus this is too]
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I did not know about this, lol this is fantastic.
They'd have to do some serious coverups of the back, there's TONS of info that could implicate who leaked it. I have a devkit for the Wii U and the controller is pretty distinct from the normal controller.
Also it has the exact same black sticker as on the NX controller. Dun dun dun.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Its fake to me until otherwise. I always need the FACTS
James Scott
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True enough, even the Wii and Wii U launched with a more traditional controller.
This is probably too expensive to make multiple of so you'd need a more traditional controller for local multiplayer like on Wii U. Something that will work with Smash and Mk9
phonesole
Why are the analogue stick nubs so small? Also, if the screen really will blend around the sticks and not be cordoned off in regular aspect ratio, that could be really weird and interfering. I also hate the idea of touch screen buttons. It's horrible enough using them with mobile games let alone console one's.
Discomurf
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#STARTINGTOLEANINTOMOREFAKETERRITORY
OK this might be reaching but the Samsung monitor also has a reflection of a bare tree without leaves suggesting the photo may have be taken in a northern or eastern state. Most large development companies are west coast based. (I realize not all are)
GAF can we get a tree expect to identify this type of tree and where is grows? LOL
OK this might be reaching but the Samsung monitor also has a reflection of a bare tree without leaves suggesting the photo may have be taken in a northern or eastern state. Most large development companies are west coast based. (I realize not all are)
GAF can we get a tree expect to identify this type of tree and where is grows? LOL
The centering of the stick-nubs plus how small they are makes it look like (going by it's size) that my thumbs aren't gonna naturally rest on the sticks either and that instead they'll be scrunching up to sit on the sticks. There's no way of knowing that for sure without holding it, but it seems like it could definitely be an issue if it were real.
This is a proposed 'better' take. Not that it looks good, but at least it gives room for other things to also be put on the controller, lol.
This is a proposed 'better' take. Not that it looks good, but at least it gives room for other things to also be put on the controller, lol.
I'm pleasantly surprised that for once we have a leaked image from someone with a decent camera!
Still not sure what to think of the design itself...I don't like the look of it much, but I'd really need to hold it in my hands to know what to make of the lack of physical buttons.
Still not sure what to think of the design itself...I don't like the look of it much, but I'd really need to hold it in my hands to know what to make of the lack of physical buttons.
I see, thanks.
The centering of the stick-nubs plus how small they are makes it look like (going by it's size) that my thumbs aren't gonna naturally rest on the sticks either and that instead they'll be scrunching up to sit on the sticks. There's no way of knowing that for sure without holding it, but it seems like it could definitely be an issue if it were real.
This is a proposed 'better' take. Not that it looks good, but at least it gives room for other things to also be put on the controller, lol.
They'd fit perfectly if there was say
I dunno
a physical grip that slots onto it?
I'm willing to believe it might be a fake, but I don't understand the reasoning of the bolded above. If you look at this comparison, you can see that the screenshot is adjusted for the angle of the controller.
See how the edges of the screenshot are all at different angles to adjust for perspective?
burn this down
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Over 100 pages in a day. Never change GAF.
Yeah, he have credible sources, the Paper Mario Wii U leak was a "joint collaboration"
The centering of the stick-nubs plus how small they are makes it look like (going by it's size) that my thumbs aren't gonna naturally rest on the sticks either and that instead they'll be scrunching up to sit on the sticks. There's no way of knowing that for sure without holding it, but it seems like it could definitely be an issue if it were real.
This is a proposed 'better' take. Not that it looks good, but at least it gives room for other things to also be put on the controller, lol.
ergonomics would be better i the actual final version much like Wii U.
All I know is that if the PS4/XBONE do incremental upgrades, it benefits Nintendo. There won't be "insane" power leaps any more, and Nintendo gets to "win" because their controls become unique.
WordAssassin
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Go to the store and buy a sheet of plastic and cut it into an oval and you don't have a wavy 3D printed screen, you have a flat glossy one. Just like in the "leaks".I don't mean to be a jerk, but this is 100% proving #TeamReal's argument
3D printing is not magic. Look at the screen of the fake:
It looks terrible, like some sort of funhouse mirror
And this was professionally created by people with professional equipment for the sole purpose of vetting out a design and was honed over the course of many months
Compare that to the screen of the leak:
Smooth and straight; it's not even close
Look at the video of the mockup - it clearly looks like a toy in comparison to the actual phone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=35&v=OzlR-pn0kig
The leak looks like an actual consumer device with a sturdy build quality you simply cannot achieve with 3D printing
So they say the NX supposed to be on the same level of XB1 at least?
Well I guess it could be worse, but Sony and MS will 1 up them again with their mid-gen iteration, still it's not too bad as base games will still target the PS4- XB1 -NX so there is no problem for Nintendo's console in term of porting stuff, unlike previous gens.
I believe that most user base in general will not have the PS4.5 and XB 1.5 anyway, only the most hardcore will get those consoles.
Well I guess it could be worse, but Sony and MS will 1 up them again with their mid-gen iteration, still it's not too bad as base games will still target the PS4- XB1 -NX so there is no problem for Nintendo's console in term of porting stuff, unlike previous gens.
I believe that most user base in general will not have the PS4.5 and XB 1.5 anyway, only the most hardcore will get those consoles.
SirPenguin
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Start back on page 1 and prepare to have your mind blown
Let's just say trees has been discussed at length
James Scott
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Gamecube^7
(Probably around X1, but nothing concrete so far)
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
If this is the overlay stuff you're suggesting makes it 100% fake:
then you realise the creator skewed and transformed the screenshot to match the controllers angle, yeh?
You don't have a 3d printer, but you can show up a sheet of plastic looking as good as in the OP.
Parapraxis
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I'm willing to believe it might be a fake, but I don't understand the reasoning of the bolded above. If you look at this comparison, you can see that the screenshot is adjusted for the angle of the controller.
See how the edges of the screenshot are all at different angles to adjust for perspective?
Ha, I hadn't seen this, it pretty much obliterates that argument...wow. (it's not just resized, it's completely skewed)
Oh wow you are behind.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
It'd be Apple-like (they've done this many times), but it could just be painted to look like metal, like later original PS3's faceplates or the platinum GameCube.
It's not as expensive as you'd think to have a generic metal shell though. Like I said, every modern console have both metal heatsinks and lots of metal RF shielding. It's not as cheap as plastic, but it could just be a thin outer shell. Not all metals are created equally, some are quite cheap (albeit not usually the ones in circuitry.) I understand that the metal uses on the outer shell would almost certainly be more expensive, but it'd still be relatively cheap and used in mass-market electronic shells from time to time I'm sure.
In fact, I don't think there's much metal, if any at all, on that design. Looks like plastic aside from possibly a back panel we can't accurately discern the composition of. Same with the white version, minus the back panel which is not visible.
Regardless, it's clearly a prototype, I wouldn't expect it from Nintendo on the final, but I don't see how it's evidence of it being fake. Good luck 3D printing an object like that with no blemishes using current technology.
The screen does not look like a Sharp LCD. It looks like an OLED screen instead. Look at the color of the Wii U LCD screen in comparison.
This glass looks more like OLED. Compare the LCD vs. OLED in the picture below:
All of the info we have about the supposed deal with sharp is about LCD technology, not OLED.
Just because you can match up a screenshot to a screenshot doesn't make it fake.
The centering of the stick-nubs plus how small they are makes it look like (going by it's size) that my thumbs aren't gonna naturally rest on the sticks either and that instead they'll be scrunching up to sit on the sticks. There's no way of knowing that for sure without holding it, but it seems like it could definitely be an issue if it were real.
This is a proposed 'better' take. Not that it looks good, but at least it gives room for other things to also be put on the controller, lol.
Nintendo has changed the stick/nubs on a controller before. Wii U controller saw a change.
SirPenguin
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Man it's like playing whack-a-mole with you people
Go into a store and buy a perfectly reflective "sheet of plastic" and cut it into a perfectly sized oval with zero indication it was cut by a human hand
oh yeah and then affix it to a piece of plastic in such a way that there are zero refraction problems - to the point where people can play tree detective with the reflections
Do that, take a pic, and I'll Paypal you $100.
Discomurf
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Pokemaniac
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I'm willing to believe it might be a fake, but I don't understand the reasoning of the bolded above. If you look at this comparison, you can see that the screenshot is adjusted for the angle of the controller.
See how the edges of the screenshot are all at different angles to adjust for perspective?
There are two issues with the way that lines up. 1) Why is it only showing the top portion of the image like that (the top and right edges are aligned with the edges of the screen, but not the bottom and left ones) and, 2) if the camera was moved to only show that part, why is there no visible difference in perspective?
Yeah, if the device in the picture is real than most likely it's not the final design, but being a devkit it should have all the features that needs to be developed for.
I'm #teamFake.
I know Nintendo goes bananas over this stuff but this would be just too dumb.
If you look back at the Wii, what was innovative about it was that it was easy to pick up and play and to learn how to play. Controls were familiar because they were based on real life movements. Most games needed just a couple of buttons to work.
The technology wasn't really advanced. These position trackers had been around for a long time, wireless controllers too, and the console itself used cheap, simple but intelligent hardware.
Regarding the prototype, while touch screens are popular and fairly cheap to make, this kind of technology that provides physical feedback on screens is neither cheap or popular. Mass production of this would be fairly costly and Nintendo can't take that chance. Also, if you look at that one gif with the guy typing on the iPad, you can see that the iPad is about 4 times thicker because that's how much hardware and battery it takes to implemente something like this.
I know Nintendo goes bananas over this stuff but this would be just too dumb.
If you look back at the Wii, what was innovative about it was that it was easy to pick up and play and to learn how to play. Controls were familiar because they were based on real life movements. Most games needed just a couple of buttons to work.
The technology wasn't really advanced. These position trackers had been around for a long time, wireless controllers too, and the console itself used cheap, simple but intelligent hardware.
Regarding the prototype, while touch screens are popular and fairly cheap to make, this kind of technology that provides physical feedback on screens is neither cheap or popular. Mass production of this would be fairly costly and Nintendo can't take that chance. Also, if you look at that one gif with the guy typing on the iPad, you can see that the iPad is about 4 times thicker because that's how much hardware and battery it takes to implemente something like this.
Some place everything else in this topic comes from: speculation based on inference.
I.E. They look non-functional. There is no visible means for the stick to move, not by any known design or engineering of analog sticks that we know of. They don't appear to be slidable sticks, as on the 3DS, as they appear to be one solid nub on one solid hemi-sphere. Further, the hemi-sphere which would traditional be sunk under the casing in order to pivot is instead a single solid piece fused with the flat ring surrounding it, and thus can not pivot as a "real" stick would. Compare:
Ergo, simplest explanation.
There's a possibility Nintendo has designed some sort of elaborate, convex, sliding nub that sits on top of a hemi-spherical dome for seemingly no reason when they already have perfectly usable designs for analog sticks and sliding pads, but is that the simplest explanation?
Idk man, if those incremental upgrades still make NX look like shit then Nintendo needs to solely rely on the uniqueness of their console
Really hope it isn't close to the X1.
Shit came out 3 years ago.
Already Torn
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That fake phone took months to make. These were both made by different people within days. Nope!
SirPenguin
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This is like Blade Runner's most boring prequel. Pretty soon people are going to start wondering if they are human or 3D printed
Parapraxis
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I know, that's what I'm saying.
I thought it was a poor argument as people claimed that the leaked image was a carbon copy of an un-altered screenshot, that the angle would be wrong.
This is the opposite case as demonstrated by having to change a proper-aspect screenshot to fit the perspective of the leaked image.
If it was faked the person doing the faking accurately recreated the nessesary distortion to reflect the object's perspective. People were saying it was not proper perspective, which is not true at all.
akidnamededdy
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To be fair, the Wii U Gamepad prototypes/early mockups/whatever had 3DS style slide pads.
The "use" should be fairly obvious. Senior figures at Nintendo (notably Iwata) have commented on numerous occasions that they think games controllers are intimidating for non-gamers, and that they have too many buttons, sticks and input devices. So, they want a controller that has as few buttons as possible to be more approachable to people who haven't played games consoles before. On the other hand, they also want a full suite of buttons to accommodate whatever third party games they may get (however few).
This design accommodates both seemingly contradictory requirements. When a non-gamer picks up the controller, they only see a big screen with two control sticks, no more intimidating than their phone or tablet. When they start the game, only the buttons that the game actually requires appear. And, instead of being labelled with arbitrary letters or symbols, they're labelled with what they actually do, which makes it a lot easier for new gamers to realise which button does what. So when you start the tutorial for Super Mario Multiverse, there aren't any buttons on screen, just the stick for you to get used to moving Mario around. Then a jump button appears, and you learn to jump. Then a fireball button, etc., etc.
At the same time, the design would accommodate an arbitrary number of buttons to accommodate the control schemes that existing gamers are used to (and potentially even add functionality like allowing players to adjust the position and size of each of the buttons).
Of course, the whole thing would depend entirely on good quality haptic feedback, and I have no idea how likely that would be. Personally I'm still of the opinion that this is fake, but if Nintendo does go this route (and given the patents they've filed, they've certainly been considering it), then it seems clear to me that they're doing it for the reason above.
Difference in perspective compared to what? The full image is aligned/deformed to match with the image on the device.
Wii U prototypes used the slide sticks that are on 3ds or something very similar iirc
WordAssassin
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I'm gonna be brutally honest with you dude, I'm not gonna go spend any money just to prove that cutting a piece of effing plastic into an oval is easy.
I've said from the very beginning that I'm not saying it IS real or it IS fake. I'm saying that IF it is fake, it is not some kind of ridiculously complicated thing to do that would take months and months to create. It would take someone who can model basic shapes in 3D, with access to a 3D printer, and a sheet of glossy plastic cut into an oval. I am absolutely not going to spend a cent to prove cutting plastic isn't difficult. Sorry.
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