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[Mercury Fred]

Hey Gayming-Age, wanna get hitched?

New York City Recognizes Marriages of Same-Sex Couples

New York City, April 7, 2005 - Today New York City became the latest locality in New York State to announce that it will fully respect the marriages and civil unions of same-sex couples performed in jurisdictions like Massachusetts, Vermont, Canada and other countries.

Empire State Pride Agenda was informed about the decision in a letter, dated April 6, that it received from Anthony W. Crowell, Special Counsel to Mayor Bloomberg. The letter was in response to earlier inquiries the Pride Agenda made to the City about the matter. (See attached letter.)

"We applaud Mayor Bloomberg for taking a step in the right direction and working to ensure that same-sex couples who live in New York City and have been married in Canada, Massachusetts and other places are now as legally married as a couple who got a license at City Hall," said Van Capelle.

New York City becomes the sixth locality in New York State to pro-actively affirm that it recognizes marriages of same-sex couples, according them the same rights as all other marriages within their local jurisdictions. Other localities are Buffalo, Rochester, Brighton, Ithaca and Nyack. These announcements follow Attorney General Eliot Spitzer's opinion that marriages and civil unions of same-sex couples performed outside the state should be treated as valid marriages in New York State.

Crowell said in the letter sent to the Pride Agenda, "On behalf of the Mayor, I am pleased to confirm to you that it is the policy of the City of New York to recognize equally all marriages, whether between same- or opposite-sex couples, and civil unions lawfully entered into in jurisdictions other than New York State, for the purposes of extending and administering all rights and benefits belonging to the couples, to the maximum extent allowed by law."

"The Mayor's pro-active announcement on same-sex marriage means that 8,591,000 of New York State's 18,976,457 people, or more than 45% of the state's population, live in jurisdictions where same-sex marriage is a legal fact," said Van Capelle. "Given that Massachusetts has a population of only 6,349,000 people, there are now more New Yorkers living in jurisdictions where same-sex marriage has been declared legal than there are people in all of Massachusetts."

http://www.prideagenda.org/pdfs/NYC Letter Recognizing Same-Sex Marriage.pdf

 

[DarienA]

Slowly but surely articles like this give me hope for this f*cked up country I live in.

 

[Gek54]

So can two brothers be married?

 

[brooklyngooner]

Add yet one more reason to the list why I love NYC

 

[Gek54]

...and then what is the reasoning behind giving married couples extra benefits?

 

[Particle Physicist]

Slowly but surely articles like this give me hope for this f*cked up country I live in.

this fucked up country is a hundred times better than the more fucked up country where i was born. so im always happy.

 

[Gek54]

Which was?

 

[Pimpwerx]

Wow! I badmouth the Big Apple, mostly for its sports teams. But respect to basically the best big city taking the initiative. NYC and Mass should drive the same change in a lot of other NE states. That or they'll step in line once all their gay athletes take their millions out of state. :lol PEACE.

 

[Particle Physicist]

Which was?

guatemala

 

[teh_pwn]

So can two brothers be married?

I'm not familiar with that sort of law, but considering most states ban cousins marrying, I doubt sibblings would pass either.

 

[Gek54]

But why not? Its not like they can reproduce and make tard babies like cousins are likely to have which is the only reason why blood relatives cant be married.

 

[teh_pwn]

I see what you're saying. I'd naturally oppose it because of my personal disgust, but if they really want to, what the hell.

 

[Gek54]

Why stop there, why not let a brother and sister get married? You dont have to have sex or have kids to be married do you? So why not?

 

[teh_pwn]

Are you actually using this twisted scenario to opposed gay marriages?

As for the brother/sister marriage, the same reason why you don't allow cousins, because people are sexual beings and it could end up in children with serious health problems. Actually in this case it's far worse as the genetics are much closer.

 

[Gek54]

Oh but dont stop there. If the mother of a girl dies and she is of age to be legaly married under concent of her parents, would it be beneficial to let the daugter marry her father so they could enjoy the extra benefits?

 

[Gek54]

Are you actually using this twisted scenario to opposed gay marriages?

No, I am only asking what is the purpose to give benefits to married couples and why should any two people of age not be allowed enter into a marraige contract.

 

[teh_pwn]

No.

You're attempting to attack the issue with outlandish scenarios.

OMG a normal hetereo couple might marry and make their children have sex with each other. We should ban all marriages!! The sanctity of marriage is under attack!


Edit: Okay I misjudged. But you seem to be attacking the issue by associating incest with some people's sexuality.

 

[Gek54]

I am only asking questions, not attacking. I dont know where got the whole 'parents making their kids have sex with each other' idea.

 

[DSFan1970]

What is the source of this news? Is there a link? I am in NYC and am in a Domestic Partnership. I got 'married' in New Paltz last May to my partner of 6 + years. ...was this based on the recent judges ruling that gave NYC 30 days to allow gay marriages. I am not clear on this NYC law...what good will it do us? If I get married in Vermont...we still can not file taxes jointly or we will invite an audit... I need more rescources...
BTW Gay-mers...I love that name!

Christopher

 

[jiggle]

would it be beneficial to let the daugter marry her father so they could enjoy the extra benefits?

Are you saying marriage just for the benefits, instead of an incestral love?
Because the daughter and father can just marry anyone else and still get that benefits.

 

[DSFan1970]

Found a link

and this news: http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/04/040705nyMarr.htm

But, it may be a year or more before gay and lesbian New Yorkers find out if they will be allowed to marry in their own state.

A bid to expedite Bloomberg's appeal, and one in Ithaca where a judge ruled against same-sex marriage, was rejected by the state's highest court last month. (story) The New York Court of Appeals ruled that the cases must work their way through the lower court appeals process first.

In addition, those marriages performed in New Paltz are not recognized by the state.
^
^
Lovely.

 

[Gek54]

Are you saying marriage just for the benefits, instead of an incestral love?
Because the daughter and father can just marry anyone else and still get that benefits.

True but what if the father does not want another lover and the daughter has several years before she would even think about getting married to anyone else. They could be married for how many ever years and then pay the $120 court costs to get divorced so she could marry her boyfriend.

 

[Mercury Fred]

For fuck's sake, it wouldn't be a same-sex marriage thread without an incest troll. Nine posts on one page? Um, ok. Obsessed much?

 

[jiggle]

True but what if the father does not want another lover and the daughter has several years before she would even think about getting married to anyone else. They could be married for how many ever years and then pay the $120 court costs to get divorced so she could marry her boyfriend.

A man is desparate enough for benefits to marry his blood daughter, but won't marry any other woman?

A girl who doesn't want to get married, but will marry her dad for extra benefits?

 

[Gek54]

Why not, who is to say they shouldnt be able to?

 

[jiggle]

Why not, who is to say they shouldnt be able to?

Then you go and find these people, tell them to fight for that right. While you're at it, find out if the girls' parents are really brother/sister, or if the grandparents are related.

 

[nitewulf]

Then you go and find these people, tell them to fight for that right. While you're at it, find out if the girls' parents are really brother/sister, or if the grandparents are related.

true.
gek, why are you asking random gamers?

 

[DarienA]

Gek would it be impolite if I asked you to please give it a fuckin rest?

 

[Pimpwerx]

Why not, who is to say they shouldnt be able to?

B/c it's a stupid point. Incest is illegal AFAIK. Why even force the issue by trying to marry a relative. Can you even get benefits without consumating a marriage? The scenarios you proposed are stupid. That girl would be better off marrying a bum off the street to get those benefits, period. There's no need to bring incest into it to make the concept seem worse. Incest is a cheap ploy to tug at the heart strings IMO. PEACE.

 

[Malakhov]

I went to Boston and New York last year, 2 great cities and I didn't feel too much out of place being from Montreal in Canada.

Nice to see they're more open than the rest of your country.

Edit: Might go visit philadelphia this year, hopefully it'll be the same.

 

[Gek54]

I am not talking about incest here at all I am purely talking about two people being joined into a marraige contract. If a marriage is not legal unless it is consumated then that is a whole other issue. I dont know if that is a requirement or not. Someone please tell me.

 

[Incognito]

Gek: I'd start running -- now. This is just a mere stepping-stone to haul your ass into court so they can marry you to some deviant homosexual. And life as you know it will be over.

Run!

 

[sc0la]

sure gek. I may think its dumb but if you want to marry your brother go ahead. I don't even give a shit if you guys have sex.

 

[Vandalier]

Well, the Democratic Germany has do a lot of marriages beetwen men.

SOCIALISM: FUTURE NOW

And now: Two sexy legs

 

[ChrisReid]

I am not talking about incest here at all I am purely talking about two people being joined into a marraige contract. If a marriage is not legal unless it is consumated then that is a whole other issue. I dont know if that is a requirement or not. Someone please tell me.

Eh, cut the passive aggressive crap and go read your bible.

 

[Gek54]

Well fuck me for questioning this liberal movement. If you really want to know I am as athiest as they come and I dont give a shit if two men or two women are allowed to be married or not. I dont consider myself liberal or conservative nor democratic or republican though the republican ecconomic pollicies are more likely benefit my financial health.

I only had two questions:
1. What is the reasoning behind the goverment endorsing marriage by giving tax breaks?
2. Why stop at 'normal' homosexual couples?

I am heterosexual but I dont have a problem if people have different preferences. I also dont have a problem with incest as long as it happens with in the age laws. I would not endorse either acts but if two people want to love each other this way who the fuck am I to judge them? I dont understand how anyone else who is ok with homosexuality would think incest is too taboo.

 

[Incognito]

I don't understand how anyone else who is ok with owning guns thinks owning anti-aircraft guns is too taboo.

 

[Pimpwerx]

Well fuck me for questioning this liberal movement. If you really want to know I am as athiest as they come and I dont give a shit if two men or two women are allowed to be married or not. I dont consider myself liberal or conservative nor democratic or republican though the republican ecconomic pollicies are more likely benefit my financial health.

I only had two questions:
1. What is the reasoning behind the goverment endorsing marriage by giving tax breaks?
2. Why stop at 'normal' homosexual couples?

I am heterosexual but I dont have a problem if people have different preferences. I also dont have a problem with incest as long as it happens with in the age laws. I would not endorse either acts but if two people want to love each other this way who the fuck am I to judge them? I dont understand how anyone else who is ok with homosexuality would think incest is too taboo.

I understand that argument, but it's off the point of the topic of the thread, and it's kinda pointless to ask. Marriage has lost its meaning a long time ago. The tax breaks are clearly to encourage marriage. The thing is, do they want marriage to foster loving relationships or for reproduction? If reproduction, then there are a lot of hetero marriages that produce no offspring. If it's for relationships, then homosexuals are gonna be capable of the same thing. Maybe the government should just forget about the whole concept of marriage concept and just consolidate it with divorce. Make it like a short-term lease and the tax break varies proportionally with the length of the contract. PEACE.

 

[Gek54]

Maybe the government should just forget about the whole concept of marriage concept and just consolidate it with divorce. Make it like a short-term lease and the tax break varies proportionally with the length of the contract. PEACE.

I wouldnt argue with that.