BoboBrazil
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I watched the video of Matt Hardy. I'm glad he got released or will be getting it. It would be cool if he shows up at BFG tomorrow night
October Wrasslin' |OT| of Bound for Hell on Syfy
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Indeed. Absolutely shameful Super Rey got pushed over Chavo Guerrero. He was closer to Eddie than Super Rey was, and is a better wrestler. Granted, merchandising isn't on his side, which is why Rey is pushed to the moon, while Chavo gets relegated to Superstars.B-Rad Lascelle said:
spindashing
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That sir is the most funniest thing I have read in this place in ages and Rafa is the one known to say funny things.JdFoX187 said:
Oh lawd :lol :lol
Oh lawd
Let me recollect myself.
Okay. Alright.
As far as heels go, MVP was a more hateable heel than Joberto. Kissing AJ's chihuahua? C'mon son...
BoboBrazil
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somedevil said:
He looked ripped in that pic he posted a couple of weeks ago. I think he is back in shape now. His contract is up soon, so they can't enforce a 90 day with him if they release him. Otherwise he would just wait out his contract. I think it would be cool if after the world title match tomorrow, Abyss and "THEY" come out and start destroying Jeff. Nobody is coming out and then out of the crowd runs Matt Hardy for the save. I'm hoping Ken Anderson wins the title, but Impact would get big ratings Thursday if the last thing people see at the ppv in Matt Hardy coming out for the save.
I laugh harder than that every time I see you try to make a credible post. Go back to joke posting and spamming AJ pictures, it's what you're good at. Because you obviously have no eye for talent when you start calling him Joberto after he loses one match to the returning Super Rey. Get back to me when MVP actually wins a credible match against someone who's not a jobber.spindashing said:That sir is the most funniest thing I have read in this place in ages and Rafa is the one known to say funny things.
Oh lawd :lol :lol
Oh lawd
Let me recollect myself.
Okay. Alright.
As far as heels go, MVP was a more hateable heel than Joberto. Kissing AJ's chihuahua? C'mon son...
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Man for as much as you call me out on it, you're one angry dude. It's wrestling, it'll be okay dude.JdFoX187 said:
Spiderjericho
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Yeah, WCW-era Rey/Chavo...Rey was a much better worker. Chavo was more entertaining and charismatic.
spindashing
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Damn, bro. Keep raging. Who shat in your fruity pebbles today?JdFoX187 said:
Relax. Better yet, don't relax because seeing your rage over this is kind of hilarious.
I wonder how you'll take it if the jobbing continues. Or if Joberto gets released.
Dark Ninja
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the only thing i don't like about the current rey is his moveset he doesn't really do anything amazing anymore like he used to he sticks to safe splashes now... i know you can do it at least do a freakin moonsault
British Monsoon
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Everyone ends up with a limited moveset in the WWE, it's aggravating. Del Rio is a fantastic talent, but he doesn't do half the stuff he does in Mexico. His flashy finisher is apparently enough, everything else is standard WWE heel 101, while Rey is stuck firmly in 5 Moves of Doom mode.
spindashing
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It can be attributed to both age and Rey's own body having wear and tear. Also, I guess it is means to not injure others that take the moves wrongly.Dark Ninja said:
Yeah, I think the splashes are boring, but eh, the kids love it I guess...
British Monsoon
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DKehoe said:
No, neither do I, not entirely - but he worked a heel in Mexico for over a year and has more in his repertoire than flashy lucha moves. I just don't think he should be restricted to a typical methodical, bare-bones heel style when he's got a number of power moves that would fit him fine in the WWE like his military press german suplex.
DKehoe
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Ah ok, I'm not that familiar with his Mexican stuff outside of a couple clips so I didn't realies he also had more suitable stuff. Yeh I agree that he should differentiate himself more. One of the problems with having all their new guys go through developmental is that they all pretty much wrestle the same style. He should use his experience from other places to his advantage and make himself stand out even more.Bootaaay said:
DKehoe said:
I really don't get the mentality the WWE has about how heels can't do flashy moves. What is more of a threat: a heel who just goes in the ring and punches and kicks, or who actually has a threatening moves set?
If it's a case of being afraid of him getting over due to being awesome, then actually come up with decent writing that makes him a good heel.
spindashing
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Wait, what? When doesn't a heel have a cool moveset when the heel isn't too generic?shidoshi said:
somedevil said:
He can show up the day after getting released if he wants, but he won't receive three months pay for sitting at home and doing nothing.
Most of the time it's jobbers and midcarders getting released and their downsides far surpass what they'd get on the indy scene in those 3 months. Might as well sit at home in that case, rest up your body, and collect the paycheck.
B-Rad Lascelle
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Kerwin White was a god. I want Chavo and Mr. Ziggles to revert to their Kerwin White-era personas for a match sometime just for the memories.Plywood said:
Would be far more entertaining than their current conglomeration of Dolph-Vickie-Vickie's Bitch Nephew-Titslyn which just degrades into unwatachable Vickie-Titslyn tension.
DKehoe
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Threatening yes but not stuff that is going to make the crowd cheer.shidoshi said:
So the writing should have to compensate for a heels in ring style making the crowd like him? How about having writing AND an in ring style which makes the crowd want to see the heel get his ass kicked. The crowd shouldn't think a heel is awesome. It's basic wrestling psychology.shidoshi said:
spindashing
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Racist.B-Rad Lascelle said:
Nah, I loved Kerwin. That gimmick was godly.
For the record, Chavo was killer in WCW, too. Even when he was riding a mop-horse toy he was 10x better than where he's at now.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Wrestling's biggest highs are when the crowd thinks the heels are awesome.DKehoe said:
"Basic wrestling psychology" died when the NWO, Austin, and the Rock happened.
DKehoe
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Austin vs McMahon is pretty much the biggest storyline in wrestling history. A clearly defined face vs a clearly defined heel. When Austin turned heel a large portion of the audience just stopped watching. They didn't want to see Austin as a heel.Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
The NWO being booked to look so awesome and not having any credible opponents is one of the things that led to WCWs downfall. The biggest storyline involving the NWO though? When they took the time to build up a credible face (Sting) who the fans wanted to see win.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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The fans still thought the NWO was cool, and the male McMahons have taken bumps and did spots like wreckless assholes, which made them awesome to many fans.DKehoe said:
Like I said, "basic wrestling psychology" doesn't apply anymore. There's no reason heels can't be cool as hell and do awesome moves and still be hated. The company got lazy. Brock Lesnar had a great moveset (helped by how athletic he is anyway), and he was hated.
DKehoe
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Vince wasn't a "cool heel"Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Heels can have moves that are intimidating sure so if you mean that sort of awesome moves then yeh they can do that. But I was meaning flippy moves which will get a positive reaction from the crowd.Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Dude.DKehoe said:
Like Justin Gabriel and Chris Jericho. (There aren't many "flippy" guys now anyway.)DKehoe said:
BoboBrazil
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Just saw that TNA is still doing taping dates, so looks like live Impact was a one off show and they are going back to tapings...
spindashing
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Well, like Liu said, there aren't that many dynamic crazy flipping guys in the WWE at the moment.
I'd say Primo is another candidate but lol what does he do besides NXT...
I'd say Primo is another candidate but lol what does he do besides NXT...
BoboBrazil
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Fuck it looks like Angle is going to win the title. TNA is hyping Angle vs RVD for the title for the next ppv in commercials. Also Abyss vs Sting. I was really hoping they would let Anderson have a go with the title. He is a decent wrestler and can talk. Angle again is kind of boring, but he can have good matches.
There's a reason why people like Jeff, Rey, and RVD haven't turn heel in more than a decade. People just don't wanna boo someone that has awesome looking moves.
I swear, if TNA turns Hardy heel tomorrow, it would be one of the most stupid moves in wrestling history (ranking up there with the Fingerpoke and Katie Vick)
I swear, if TNA turns Hardy heel tomorrow, it would be one of the most stupid moves in wrestling history (ranking up there with the Fingerpoke and Katie Vick)
BoboBrazil
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Azuran said:
They are probably gonna do something stupid like have RVD say he was in on it all along with Bischoff, Hogan, and Abyss, and have him as their "cool" heel.
spindashing
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Aw come on, JindFoX187. Don't be salty.Jin34 said:
Are there going to be any matches on the BFG card worth watching? I haven't watched a proper TNA in ages so I can't say I remember anything about it...
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Sure they do.Azuran said:
You guys really overestimate how much people give a shit about flippy spots.
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Yeah, I think Morrison stands out as someone who was able to do flippy shit during his heel runs.
BoboBrazil
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spindashing said:Aw come on, JindFoX187. Don't be salty.
Are there going to be any matches on the BFG card worth watching? I haven't watched a proper TNA in ages so I can't say I remember anything about it...
THREE-WAY MATCH TO CROWN A NEW TNA WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION
Olympic Gold Medalist Kurt Angle vs. Mr. Anderson vs. "The Charismatic Enigma" Jeff Hardy
Should be a great match. Anderson vs Angle last time in the cage tore the house down. This should get atleast 25-30 minutes and it could be a potential moty candidate. Angle already promised it will be.
Monster's Ball: Rob Van Dam vs. "The Monster" Abyss
THEY will be revealed. Abyss will go over with help from them. Expect glass, tacks, and barbwire.
Lethal Lockdown: Ric Flair's Fourtune vs. EV2.0
Don't know the teams, so this could go either way. EV 2.0 is dead so expect them to lose
Handicap Match: Sting, Kevin Nash & The Pope vs. Jeff Jarrett & Samoa Joe
Kevin Nash's last match? I expect a swerve. Match could be ok. Hopefully Jarrett disappears after this
Tag Team Title: Motor City Machineguns vs. Generation Me
These two teams should have an awesome match. Expect some crazy spots
X Division Title: Douglas Williams vs. Jay Lethal
Another match that should be fantastic.
Knockouts Title: Angelina Love vs. Velvet Sky vs. Madison Rayne vs. Tara
I don't give a fuck about women's wrestling
Tag Team Match: Eric Young & Orlando Jordan vs. Ink Inc.
Match will be shit. I don't like either team and this shouldn't even be on the card.
Team 3D will make a major announcement at the Pay-Per-View
Announcing they are splitting as a tag team to wrestle singles is my guess
So out of the matches above 4 or 5 should be good to great.
spindashing
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Thanks, BoboBrazil. Oddly, I'm hyped for the PPV.
I want to see who THEY "is."
As long as it doesn't turn into a Mick Foley vs Ric Flair fest, I'm all good -- but it seems RVD and Abyss will be bloody.
Why would RVD get into such a match after his HP magically healed? FFFFFFF
Oh well. I'll be here to rage with you guys!
I want to see who THEY "is."
As long as it doesn't turn into a Mick Foley vs Ric Flair fest, I'm all good -- but it seems RVD and Abyss will be bloody.
Why would RVD get into such a match after his HP magically healed? FFFFFFF
Oh well. I'll be here to rage with you guys!
spindashing said:
Obviously you guys can't detect a little sarcasm over the Internet. My point still stands about Alberto. Dude is the most talented guy in the company on the mic, and in the ring. MVP is a shell of what he used to be, and is lucky to even have a job. WWE could easily trim the fat they have on their roster of guys like MVP, Chris Masters, 90 percent of the divas, and others and still put on a better quality show.Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
BoboBrazil
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jobber said:
Wrong it's
Steve Austin and The Rock. Abyss did it for the Rock.
Rafa=FedKilla
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Guys, THey is clearly Matt Hardy, Matthew Hardy, Fat Hardy, Meth Hardy and Jeff's unborn child.
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