Wife has a dog grooming business but I'm not sure what the husband does other than taking care plants and animals. I wouldn't be surprised if they also hunt for a lot of their food. Can you get welfare for children that don't have SS numbers? Here is his quote about the Gwenth Powlltrow welfare story from last month or so:
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'Off-grid' couple faces hearing to regain custody of 10 children
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Wife has a dog grooming business but I'm not sure what the husband does other than taking care plants and animals. I wouldn't be surprised if they also hunt for a lot of their food. Can you get welfare for children that don't have SS numbers? Here is his quote about the Gwenth Powlltrow welfare story from last month or so:
Funny coincidence, Jennifer Lawrence was born and raised 1hr away from where these guys are located.
entremet
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Yep. Many people homeschool successfully.
Issue here is that they totally have their kids in a form of insecurity. I mean, not having water?
The Amish at least have a decent setup as well and they life off the grid.
These people are just sloppy and careless.
j_k_redtail
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OK. This is what I was getting at.
It's one thing to choose a rustic lifestyle when you have the means and ability to support yourself. But no source of income? Stealing water from your neighbors? Twelve mouths to feed on that menu? An infant, delivered in the middle of winter, in a tent?
This is reinforcing my original suspicion, unfortunately: This screams "poverty" to me, not bootstrappy-ness, despite what they may call it. It looks like they've chosen a rustic lifestyle over public aid. Some people find the latter option so intolerable that they'd rather live in the sticks. (I don't get it, either.) And as you say, that may not be an option for them if the kids don't have SSNs and documentation.
Hence: CPS. I doubt the kids will be returned to the parents as long as they are living in these conditions.
Violence Jack
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So when their kids get sick, is it pretty much "let nature run its course" or what?
Kids shouldn't suffer for their parents decision. I understand wanting to "rough it", but this is a little much.
Kids shouldn't suffer for their parents decision. I understand wanting to "rough it", but this is a little much.
Hey man, they may live in a hut made out of sticks and tarps with 10 kids and borrowed water, but they're not cavemen.
I don't know much about living off the grid, but I don't think they're doing it right.
Yup. These people are paranoid loonies, nothing more.
What you are arguing is that regulated education (done "properly") is better than non-regulated education which is the antithesis of homeschooling. People do it because they disagree with the regulation. But another major issue is that few parents have enough of an understanding of even high-school subject matter to really teach it authoritatively and not enough of a diversity to give children options and other viewpoints.
Pops Maellard
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They can live whatever lifestyle they feel suits them, but not with kids. As soon as their last child has successfully moved out and is self sustaining, they can go back to living under a pile of rags.
Sho_Nuff82
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"Off the grid".
Begs and threatens neighbors for drinkable water. Yeah, first world problems.
Begs and threatens neighbors for drinkable water. Yeah, first world problems.
I know quite a few well adjusted people that were homeschooled and none of them had to do with parents wanting to avoid regulation, and everything to do with living in bad school districts.
To act like every parent that home schools does it for the same reason, or that it's always a " keep your government out of my kids" attitude is painting a very large disparate group under one broad brushstroke.
I stand by what I said. If the kids are learning to the same or better standards than public schooled children, and all the requirements in place whether public, private, or homeschooled are being met it is really no ones business but the parents.
If they had a well, roof, and a functioning out house I think it would be fine. No roof or water supply is going to far with kids.
Sadly the only people I know about living off the grid in a good way had money to start with. They have goats, chickens, solar panels, small wind turbine, a well, and recycle waste water for plants.
Sadly the only people I know about living off the grid in a good way had money to start with. They have goats, chickens, solar panels, small wind turbine, a well, and recycle waste water for plants.
Yup
Not to mention this 'free-schooling' bullshit that's illegal and will handicap the kids for society.
We'll likely be paying welfare for all 10 of them in the future, assuming they aren't removed out of the parents' care.
Yeah pretty much.
There's eccentricity and then there's an unsuitable environment for children, and this clearly strays into the latter.
Rentahamster
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So much for self-sufficiency.
Yeah, these people are simply insane. I don't doubt that their kids are better off without them.
OverBlood 3
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Oh dear Jesus lock these sinners up!
Isn't it like really tough to get on in life without a SSN? Seems pretty unfair to impose that on your kids should they decide to not pursue this lifestyle.
Laughing Banana
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Moronic.
Go live whatever the way you want but don't disturb others and especially be responsible at least for the well being of your children.
Absolutely moronic in my eyes. The only thing they're making a grandstand on is idiocy and stupidity.
Go live whatever the way you want but don't disturb others and especially be responsible at least for the well being of your children.
Absolutely moronic in my eyes. The only thing they're making a grandstand on is idiocy and stupidity.
Freshmaker
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Craster had a roof at least.
You know what would be tougher? The kids trying to join society without having had any traditional education of any sort.
Battersea Power Station
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Did Fox News make this family into heroes yet?
uncredited male
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Off-grid my ass.
This is the ascended form of sovereign citizens.
This is the ascended form of sovereign citizens.
TAJ
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As a former carpenter I am in awe of how fucking terrible the framing is on their new place. These aren't mysteries of the unknown. Crack a book, watch a Youtube video... something... Jesus. Better yet hire someone with half a clue. Seriously, WTF.
You basically don't exist without one. They wouldn't be able to work, pay taxes, have credit, etc.
I doubt child services will approve even the new house seeing as it doesn't meet code.
Sequence Six
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Real life Cletus and Brandine
Not even close, Cletus has a real house.
Rentahamster
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The allure of online narcissism is strong enough to overcome even their strong feelings of disdain for authority, governmental or corporate alike.
Real life Cletus and Brandine
Its honestly worst than this.
Completely insane people are supporting these crazy people.
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