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[Particle Physicist]

There's no excuse for the bodyarmor getup.

yes there is. this is a 'real-world' realization of the comicbook. . his suit is bodyarmor.

 

[Spike Spiegel]

The body armor could be worn under a costume, though, instead of being the costume.

This reminds me a great deal of the Green Goblin.

 

[XS+]

Batgeeks who whine about the last movie series don't want 'real-world' or any other kind of improv, they want the comic book put on film. And Batman looks nothing like that in the comics last time I checked.

 

[jecclr2003]

The thing with Batman is he's supposed to be such a badass fighter he doesn't NEED armor. Just a small patch of kevlar under the insignia. While the armor kind of makes sense, being he stole it from his own company. A Military prototype, he just made some chages. But the concept of him wearing head to toe armor doesn't make sense for the character.

I don't care how much the mobility is upped, it;s still gonna look like a Power Rangers monster in fight scenes.

 

[Willco]

The follow things are true about the Bat suit...

IT IS NOT MADE OUT OF RUBBER OR LATEX.

CHRISTIAN BALE CAN MOVE IN IT.

IT DOESN'T LOOK PLASTIC, BECAUSE BATMAN BEGINS IS NOT FILMED IN FRONT ON A BRIGHT LIGHT AND WHITE BACKGROUND.

A LOT OF IT IS MADE UP OUT OF THE SPIDER-MAN MATERIAL.

YOU PEOPLE ARE STUPID.

 

[border]

What is the suit made out of?

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

some of you people defy common sense.....

 

[Shogmaster]

The follow things are true about the Bat suit...

IT IS NOT MADE OUT OF RUBBER OR LATEX.

CHRISTIAN BALE CAN MOVE IN IT.

IT DOESN'T LOOK PLASTIC, BECAUSE BATMAN BEGINS IS NOT FILMED IN FRONT ON A BRIGHT LIGHT AND WHITE BACKGROUND.

A LOT OF IT IS MADE UP OUT OF THE SPIDER-MAN MATERIAL.

YOU PEOPLE ARE STUPID.

Those things all may be true, but that doesn't change the fact that it looks just like the past suits in terms of insensical design/sculptured shit.

Fuck, is it too much to ask for a batsuit that looks like cool costume instead of an esoteric molded sculpture?

 

[Willco]

What is the suit made out of?

Some of it is made up of that same crap that wetsuits are made out of. Neoprene or something. That stuff. And other parts are different materials, but I was told that they took a page of the Spidey construction. The technology and materials are so advanced that the new Batsuit allows for a lot more flexibility nowadays.

Those things all may be true, but that doesn't change the fact that it looks just like the past suits in terms of insensical design/sculptured shit.

Fuck, is it too much to ask for a batsuit that looks like cool costume instead of an esoteric molded sculpture?

Yeah, I was letdown by the Burton-esque design, but it didn't betray Goyer's script, meaning that the rest of the film is probably faithful as well. And that's good, because his script is awesome.

I just got pissed about the constant rubber remarks. It's NOT made of rubber. We went through this in the other Batman thread when the suit was first revealed for several pages and it's like everyone forgot.

 

[XS+]

Actually if the mask and the insignia were the same color as the jet-black cape, the costume would look pretty damn cool, and more faithful to the comic..

 

[jecclr2003]

IT DOESNT FUCKING MATTER IF IT ISN'T RUBBER!
IT STILL LOOKS LIKE A SCUPLTED UP, RUBBER-LIKE PIECE OF SHIT!


I'm really not trying to be bitchy about it, but come on does he really need to be armored up like that? That's not the character that's in the comics.

But hey, this is the same company that made Catwoman, right?. Whatt he fuck do they care what it looks like, as long as the money's green, they are happier than a puppy with two peters.

I just wish I knew why it's so hard for DC/WB to make a comic book movie thats actually faithful to the source material. You put Bale in a tights ensamble not unlike Toby MCG's from Spider-man(meaning sleek and form fitting, not sculpted armor), make him a FUCKING DETECTIVE the way he should be. Add in a great Rogues gallery (DON'T KILL THEM!), conflict between Gordon and Bats due to his methods and viola, instant sucess.

 

[Sriram]

IT DOESNT FUCKING MATTER IF IT ISN'T RUBBER!
IT STILL LOOKS LIKE A SCUPLTED UP, RUBBER-LIKE PIECE OF SHIT!

Maybe you should read what has been said next time.

IT DOESN'T LOOK PLASTIC, BECAUSE BATMAN BEGINS IS NOT FILMED IN FRONT ON A BRIGHT LIGHT AND WHITE BACKGROUND.

 

[Kenobi]

The batbelt excites me...it looks very nice.

 

[jecclr2003]

Once again...

Tight spandex like out fit > Rubberized, Power ranger armor.

Why? Because Batman has always been construed as a class A badass that doesnt need any armor.

 

[BigGreenMat]

Man, I love batman as much as the next guy, but you guys are all really whiney about this crap. The suit looks fine. Better than before. Who cares if it isn't exactly what you want. Hell I don't.

 

[Dujour]

I hate the look of the suit. The real Batman wouldn't hinder his movement just to look like he is stronger. Dead End had it perfect. Anyway, despite my strong dislike for the look of the suit, I still have strong faith that the movie will kick buckets of ass. And by the way, batman does wear a bullet-proof vest most of the time, but only because Alfred insists he does. The insignia on his chest is supposed to stand out from the rest of the suit so people would target there, but whatever.

 

[Willco]

I hate the look of the suit. The real Batman wouldn't hinder his movement just to look like he is stronger. Dead End had it perfect. Anyway, despite my strong dislike for the look of the suit, I still have strong faith that the movie will kick buckets of ass. And by the way, batman does wear a bullet-proof vest most of the time, but only because Alfred insists he does. The insignia on his chest is supposed to stand out from the rest of the suit so people would target there, but whatever.

Except for this suit doesn't hinder his movement. Yeah, I mean it would if you were some almost superhuman vilgilante with lightining quick reflexes, but that won't translate to the screen because nobody is like that.

 

[Spike Spiegel]

Federman, freedom of movement or not, the end result is that they made a costume that looks very similar to the ones that came before it in terms of overall design. Maybe they should've borrowed the entire book of "Spider-Man Costume Design 101," instead of taking just a page from it.

The Spider-Man costume (if I'm recalling what I read in the "making of" book correctly) was a skintight muscle-enhancing bodysuit (custom-fitted to the actor's and stunt doubles' bodies), over which was stretched an extremely tight, multi-layered, silk-screened costume that utilized a computer-generated hexagonal pattern designed to pick up on light and shadows, and give a 3D effect to body contours.

This Batman costume just looks like a thin neoprene wetsuit, with segmented armor pieces (made of more neoprene, or rubber, or whatever) sewn or molded onto it. Granted, I don't know what methods were used to construct it, but the end result reminds me more of the Goblin suit than the Spidey suit.

 

[Escape Goat]

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[Spike Spiegel]

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Looks like you forgot one at the end there... b*tch.

 

[Escape Goat]

Don't sass me none, boy!

 

[Willco]

Federman, freedom of movement or not, the end result is that they made a costume that looks very similar to the ones that came before it in terms of overall design.

I agree. I said that too. I'm a bit letdown by the Burton-esque design myself.

This Batman costume just looks like a thin neoprene wetsuit, with segmented armor pieces (made of more neoprene, or rubber, or whatever) sewn or molded onto it. Granted, I don't know what methods were used to construct it, but the end result reminds me more of the Goblin suit than the Spidey suit.

I don't think it looks anything remotely similar to the Goblin suit, which was PLASTIC.

 

[XS+]

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That's what you get for entering a comic/scifi/fantasy movie thread.

 

[BojTrek]

I love the look of that fan-made, Batman/Joker/Alien/Predator, Batman costume... it is probably what the forum would piss in their pants if was made for this flick...

I don't mind the new costume, but it didn't make me say "wow"... I personally thought of Val Kilmer or George Clooney looking at it... oh well!

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

Once again...

Tight spandex like out fit > Rubberized, Power ranger armor.

Why? Because Batman has always been construed as a class A badass that doesnt need any armor.

batman always uses armor. maybe you're the one that hasnt paid attention to the comics.
and i can pointout to you numerous issues where batman or someone else made comments about the body armor.

 

[Spike Spiegel]

batman always uses armor. maybe you're the one that hasnt paid attention to the comics.
and i can pointout to you numerous issues where batman or someone else made comments about the body armor.

You're right; he's wrong about the body armor thing. But that doesn't change the fact that the costume designers for 'Batman Begins' didn't have to make it such a f*cking obvious part of his costume.

I remember seeing this pic in the "making of" book for Spider-Man, that showed a stunt double putting on his Spidey suit. The muscle-enhancing suit worn underneath the actual costume could definitely pass for some king of high-tech body armor, if that angle were played up a bit.

The designers could have had Wayne donning this skintight "body armor," then pulling on a more traditional costume over it.

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

You're right; he's wrong about the body armor thing. But that doesn't change the fact that the costume designers for 'Batman Begins' didn't have to make it such a f*cking obvious part of his costume.

I remember seeing this pic in the "making of" book for Spider-Man, that showed a stunt double putting on his Spidey suit. The muscle-enhancing suit worn underneath the actual costume could definitely pass for some king of high-tech body armor, if that angle were played up a bit.

The designers could have had Wayne donning this skintight "body armor," then pulling on a more traditional costume over it.

but is that going to scare you at night?

 

[Ninja Scooter]

You're right; he's wrong about the body armor thing. But that doesn't change the fact that the costume designers for 'Batman Begins' didn't have to make it such a f*cking obvious part of his costume.

You're comparing two different mediums though. Its easy to get away with that in a cartoony comic, but spandex with a kevlar vest underneath would look pretty goofy in live action IMO.

 

[jecclr2003]

Evil a thin layer of kevlar under the spandex, thats it.

It's reinforced around the insgnia as the insignia is used to attract attention for fire.

Not a scuplted up, scuba suit.

The cape is made from a fire repellant material, the cowl of the same with a small, yet advanced radio to keep in constant contact. The eye lenses contain IR, night vision filters.

Like I said earlier, this isnt what the character is supposed to be visually. No matter how light and mobile it may be it is still going to hinder your movement some and from early shots the cowl tends to bunch up around the neck a bit. If you've seen Dead End you saw that a realistic, yet functionlal, spandex cstme would work.

Simple padded grey and black spandex with a cape with wieghted tips and yellow belt. There done, simple.

This is something that has always bothered me with superhero movies, if they change the costume, make it practical. X-men made sense, as it being padding as well as a full body costume. Daredevil made sense because it fit the character, he gets the hell beat out of him on a regular basis.

Batman on the other hand is more detective than brawler. But when the situation arises, he's a world class fighter. Schooled in just about all disciplines and so on. Making a suit built out of scuplted up, rubber like (I know, it is not rubber so chill) material doesnt really fit the character.

Now I'm holding any judgements on the movie until I see it, but part of me as a comic book fan wants to see a physical representation of what on the page. And with a character as iconic Bats you shouldnt screw with it. They got Superman right on the first try, whys this one so hard?

 

[Spike Spiegel]

but is that going to scare you at night?

Hey, don't get me wrong here. I don't mean to sound like I'm going to pass early judgement on the movie, and write the whole thing off based solely on a few out-of-context pictures of a costume. I've got high hopes for the entire project, and can't wait to see it like everyone else. And in the end, the costume thing probably won't matter in the grand scheme of things.

All I'm saying is, there were other alternatives available, that could have resulted in a more... faithful look.

EDIT: Damn it, I wish I remembered where I put that book. Anyone else have it?

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...ding=UTF8&no=283155&me=ATVPDKIKX0DER&st=books

 

[jecclr2003]

Spike I have that book. Not a bad read.

 

[The Bookerman]

Looks like EA thought of reducing the size of that neck

 

[Shinobi]

As long as Batman looks mobile when moving, I'm not gonna get too wound up over the suit. They could easily streamline it for the sequel anyway, as the Batmobile is likely to receive.