Official Doom 3 X-box thread: For us non-cash chuckers w/o great computers

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i see no doom 3 hype on this board! why? the game looks to be pretty sweet, plus the online component should be good.

i am finding more and more that 4 players is a great number for online gaming. splinter cell, phantom dust, etc. it makes the matches more intense and the games run better. looks like doom 3's deathmatches should be pretty sweet in that regard, plus the online co-op.
 
The online co-op is the ONLY reason I would consider this game, Half Life 2 is better in every possable way, (with the exception being Doom 3's dynamic lighting)

~Black Deatha
 
Doom 3 = blah


I like Xbox games with great art and fun gameplay.



Panzer Dragoon Orta > Doom3

sorry, not trying to derail this thread.

I suppose I'll rent Doom 3.
 
I just hope you Xbox guys can enjoy it MORE than PC jaded gamers. We have too many FPS games on the PC to be frank. That's why so many people hate Doom 3, because they can play HL2 for example.

Me?

I was floored by D3's graphics, nothing beats TRUE UNIFIED LIGHTING system when you point a flashlight at any object in the world - be it soda can, walking scientists or a moving arm of a gigantic robot machinery and it casts real-life shadows! And the shadows wrap around things they are totally dynamic - that's the best part of Doom 3 experience. When you are in a dark room shooting some imps and every flash of your weapon acts as a dynamic light-source - it's amazing.

There's really nothing beyond pretty graphics though. Even action isn't as fun as in Painkiller (now that was mind-blowing, adrenaline pumping game!).

There are better FPS games out there on PC and on Xbox.
Just don't expect anything revolutionary, even graphics (you had Riddick before on Xbox, right?).
 
Well, I can't say I didn't like Doom 3. Great run and gun FPS, IMO. I love the lighting system, but I still think the game's just too dark for it's own good. Seriously, the flashlight was a great idea (I loved opening a door, turning a corner and having a monster jump right at me. Great atmosphere) but when it actually comes down to the gameplay, you're just shooting with no where to aim. It's really the game's only major flaw. Other than that, I loved it.
 
We have too many FPS games on the PC to be frank. That's why so many people hate Doom 3, because they can play HL2 for example.
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Sure, there are a LOT of FPS titles on the PC...but as of late, most of them are average at best. Half-Life 2 was the first AAA PC FPS we've seen in quite some time. Sadly, technical issues prevented my first experience from being what it could have been. That's my biggest problem with PC games. Perhaps the reason why I enjoyed Doom 3 so much is that I only found myself fiddling with graphical options and such after I had finished it.
 
Like a lot of people the first couple of hours in Doom 3 floored me. A good deal of that can be attributed to the nostalgia booster of seeing a familiar staple of gaming past in a very new type of fidelity. Its eye popping stuff no doubt. But like a lot of people that eventually wore thin on me, around hour 5 you start wondering about the possibilities of the engine rather than the actual game you're playing it on. Never a good thing. Im glad I stuck it out the plodding middle though because the last couple of levels we're pretty cool.

I know EGM had some nutty review on this but I think most who shelled out for the PC version would caution X-Box owners to rent instead of buy. Its a fun roller coaster that goes over the same loops far too many times for its own good.
 
I used a trade in deal to pay for the LE. I want the old games. And playing co-op is going to be a blast. Much more fun than it was playing the single on PC. So, I think it will be a great time. It's getting great reviews for the experience it brings to the table, though I agree with a previous poster that co-op is the hawtness.

HL2 can suck a dick. Steam blows. Ever since one of the latest updates, it won't run on my system (even though any other PC game will). The support has been shitty and the best answer I can get from Valve is to format my hard drive again. Fuck off. Overrated POS.
 
EBwiz said:
Well, I can't say I didn't like Doom 3. Great run and gun FPS, IMO. I love the lighting system, but I still think the game's just too dark for it's own good. Seriously, the flashlight was a great idea (I loved opening a door, turning a corner and having a monster jump right at me. Great atmosphere) but when it actually comes down to the gameplay, you're just shooting with no where to aim. It's really the game's only major flaw. Other than that, I loved it.
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Well, they have turned up the brightness a notch in the Xbox version apparantly. I didnt play the PC version much, ran like crap on my comp, so I`m looking very much forward to it.
 
Dr_Cogent said:
Already played it on the PC. Was fun for a while, then it got monotonous. What a waste of $55
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gameplay & fun > graphics :)


even if we had Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within film CGI graphics, in-game, it wouldn't matter if the game is crap.
 
I thought this included all new single player? And the PC single player portion had changes (brighter, etc.).

Maybe it's just the Co-Op levels that are new, but it has the old games as well so value on the game is pretty good. A lot of different options and there are a distinct lack of fun co-op games if the co-op levels turn out good.
 
Does the Xbox version include the upcoming PC add-on? Doom 3 was alright, I just can't believe that a science fiction writer wrote the story for it. It's a good solid FPS game but extremely repetitive.


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oh and the AI sucks & The game is 100% scripted and has no replay value.

HL2 can suck a dick. Steam blows. Ever since one of the latest updates, it won't run on my system (even though any other PC game will). The support has been shitty and the best answer I can get from Valve is to format my hard drive again. Fuck off. Overrated POS.
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Yes I agree! Chronicles or Riddick and Halo 2 are much better games. Steam, CounterStrike, HL deathmatch and HL2 are all overrated. WHAT A FUCKING WASTE OF $60!!!
 
Musashi Wins! said:
HL2 can suck a dick. Steam blows. Ever since one of the latest updates, it won't run on my system (even though any other PC game will). The support has been shitty and the best answer I can get from Valve is to format my hard drive again. Fuck off. Overrated POS.
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I've been saying this for a very long time now. HL2 is an overrated POS. :lol

Valve can suck a dick. I'm never buying their bullshit ever again.

I would recommend Doom 3 over Half-Life 2 anyday.
 
xexex said:
Doom 3 = blah


I like Xbox games with great art and fun gameplay.



Panzer Dragoon Orta > Doom3

sorry, not trying to derail this thread.

I suppose I'll rent Doom 3.
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Way to contribute to a thread by comparing it to a completely unrelated game released over a year ago. This is the kind of obnoxious fanboy comment that perpetuates the stereotypes of fans of games lke PDO. If you said Halo2 > Doom3 or Timesplitters > Doom 3 that is one thing.
 
Doom 3 on the PC was a blast for the first few hours, and it's hard to argue that it doesn't look increidlbe. The lighting is excellent, far beyond anything else right now. My problem with the game had more to do with the design in the long run though. The levels became too repetitive, and you could almost predict when a creature was going to jump out at you. Plus, the whole game dyanmic of the flashlight was just silly. It would have been better to have a flashlight on your weapon, or suit ala Halo, and have to recharge it or find batteries for it. You could use it to spot enemies, but you also had to conserve the batteries for when you really needed it. The whole use the flashlight or the weapon thing got old really fast. The game didn't get interesting again until you made it to Hell, but there just wasn't enough of it to really save the ending. Still, Co-op on the Xbox could be a lot of fun.

I just finished Half-Life 2 last week, and I have to say I was mostly underwhelmed there too. Again, it had nice graphics and lighting, but much of the story elements seemed contrived. The Grav Gun was a blast of course, and the vehicles were fun, although I liked the vehicles in Halo better. They just seemed to convey more of a sense of freedom when driving around. Plus, the ending was only slightly more fulfilling then Halo 2. Perhaps the hype, and all the Game of the Year awards, had my hopes up too high. Overall, I enjoyed it, the variety was better then Doom 3, but I wasn't blown away by it.
 
Doom_Bringer said:
Does the Xbox version include the upcoming PC add-on? Doom 3 was alright, I just can't believe that a science fiction writer wrote the story for it. It's a good solid FPS game but extremely repetitive.


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oh and the AI sucks & The game is 100% scripted and has no replay value.


Yes I agree! Chronicles or Riddick and Halo 2 are much better games. Steam, CounterStrike, HL deathmatch and HL2 are all overrated. WHAT A FUCKING WASTE OF $60!!!
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Dr_Cogent said:
I've been saying this for a very long time now. HL2 is an overrated POS. :lol

Valve can suck a dick. I'm never buying their bullshit ever again.

I would recommend Doom 3 over Half-Life 2 anyday.
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Opinions and all, but HL2 overrated POS? I loved D3 and HL2. The HL2 online experience is much better than D3 though. Outside of UT2K4 or Battlefield, I can't think of a better online PC game than HL2. The gravity rooms, and the gravity gun are off the hook!!!
 
Don't play this unless you have a 5.1 audio setup. As far as I'm concerned, a nice sized TV and 5.1 are required to enjoy this game. Shock horror needs to be in your face and loud, loud, LOUD!.

If you have the right AV setup, be ready to tremble as this game is absolutely phenomenal the first time through! Some parts are predictable but it's worth pressing on as the end kicks ass! Co-op too!
 
I'd rather play UT2K4 than Doom 3 or Half-Life 2, but that's just me. The sheer amount of content and mods for it make it that much better.
 
I was thinking the lack of hype for Doom 3 came from all the negative responses that the PC version got last year.

Probably going to pass on it and just go with Timesplitters 3 and Unreal Championship 2 for my Xbox FPS fix.

Culex said:
I'd rather play UT2K4 than Doom 3 or Half-Life 2, but that's just me. The sheer amount of content and mods for it make it that much better.
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But UT2K4 is made for multiplayer, and while Doom 3 and Half-Life 2 also feature multiplayer, the primary focus is the story mode/single player campaign. (And doesn't Half-Life 2 have mods coming out now too? :))
 
I've reviewed the game. Questions?

Co-op is System Link and Xbox Live only.

Deathmatch is System Link and Xbox Live only.

Ultimate Doom and Doom 2 are split-screen only (not sure about System Link though). These games are only on the Limited Edition, by the way.

Graphics are brighter and the flashlight is more for searching in corners for powerups rather than finding your way. Textures have taken the biggest hit but lighting is pretty much intact. Very impressive in motion, not so in screenshots.

Single Player has remixed levels, lots of dragging sections removed. The first trip down to where all hell breaks loose is considerably shortened.

Co-op is further shortened, some sections are completely removed. No PDA reading or puzzling (like the barrel pickup). The bosses are more traditional, shoot to kill, instead of the puzzle aspects of some of them on PC. This makes it faster, more of an action game and much more fun IMHO. I never liked the PC version.

Deathmatch has the same levels as the PC version and four players max.

Loading is fairly long (I clocked about 18 seconds between levels) but each level is long enough that it doesn't matter.

Super Turkey Puncher Alpha 3 is in.
 
hukasmokincaterpillar said:
Its eye popping stuff no doubt. But like a lot of people that eventually wore thin on me, around hour 5 you start wondering about the possibilities of the engine rather than the actual game you're playing it on. Never a good thing.
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Exactly. There's only so much of the cramped corridors and wash, rinse, repeat gameplay that you can take before the game feels like a total chore to play. Best looking Doom of course, but also the worst playing Doom.
 
once you got the
soul cube
, it changed the dynamics of the game by a good ammount. you started having to fight a lot more enemies at once with more varations between them with not much ammo to go around to kill all them easily. doom3 is one of the best action fps ever if you ask me.
 
HokieJoe said:
It must be unique to some hardware/software configs because I can assure that it isn't a problem on my rig. If that's your evidence, you need to try again bubba.
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I don't give a shit if it's a problem on your rig or not. I don't need to prove anything to you. It stutters/hitches on multiple peoples machines that I know. HL2 = POS. Don't like it? Tough.

Maybe you would have a clue if you were on the Steam forums since launch day. It's been a mess ever since then.

Go tell Musashi Wins about how great HL2 is
 
I've always loved DOOM so DOOM3 is an instant buy. I played the hell out of the PSX,N64,and Jaguar versions,and I'm there for the new one. It looks great for an Xbox game,I love the old run and gun style of play. As a console gamer I'm happy were even getting this old school gem.
 
Doom 3 was the second best PC FPS I played this year, the first being Riddick. The game's first and last thirds are quite awesome although the middle parts are a little lacking in level design and pacing. Regardless, it was more fun than Far Cry and .. *LOADING* .. Half Life 2 for me. Anyone who didn't play it on PC should definitely get the xbox version as it will apparently be even better in terms of gameplay. Who can say no to split screen coop anyway?

P.S. 1GB ram and 9800xt - no stutter for HL2.. the stutter for HL2 is mostly on NV3x cards and <1GB ram..
 
Angelus said:
I've always loved DOOM so DOOM3 is an instant buy. I played the hell out of the PSX,N64,and Jaguar versions,and I'm there for the new one. It looks great for an Xbox game,I love the old run and gun style of play. As a console gamer I'm happy were even getting this old school gem.
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Doom 3 isn't much like the original games. It feels more like an updated Quake 1 or 2 (in regards to single player).
 
tahrikmili said:
P.S. 1GB ram and 9800xt - no stutter for HL2.. the stutter for HL2 is mostly on NV3x cards and <1GB ram..
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I don't think so. Let's not derail the thread anymore regarding HL2. If you want to PM me about it - go for it.

Actually, forget that even. I'm not going to change anyones mind. That has been rehashed a million times on the steam forums (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=216489 and thats just a small example)
 
Dr_Cogent said:
I don't give a shit if it's a problem on your rig or not. I don't need to prove anything to you. It stutters/hitches on multiple peoples machines that I know. HL2 = POS. Don't like it? Tough.

Maybe you would have a clue if you were on the Steam forums since launch day. It's been a mess ever since then.

Go tell Musashi Wins about how great HL2 is
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Which means what exactly? Show me one relatively recent PC game that doesn't have several people somewhere bitching about it on some forum. Hell, even a game that's not visually taxing, like the new Pirates, is causing problems for some people. I remember I had tons of issues with Call of Duty (which ran on the faithful Quake III engine even) on some of the later levels when I first bought it. I still loved the game. Yeah, I pulled my hair trying to get it stop freezing, but that, as we know unfortunately, is all part of PC gaming. And because I and probably several others had no issues with steam or HL2, you're not going to see us hitting those forums because there's no need to. But I was all over Call of Duty forums when I couldn't figure out WTF was wrong.
 
Pimpbaa said:
Doom 3 isn't much like the original games. It feels more like an updated Quake 1 or 2 (in regards to single player).
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I've seen DOOM3 being played and I don't hold this view at all.
Its still run and gun,its DOOM.
 
Who can say no to split screen coop anyway?
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What part of "System Link and Xbox Live only" didn't you get?

Xbox handles a fairly faithful port of Doom 3 pretty well, considering it was first designed on pretty much Xbox hardware (Geforce 3 with ~1 GHz). It does NOT handle TWO ports of Doom 3 running at once.
 
I'm still curious about how they did the controls. Doom 3 isn't like Halo where every enemy conveniently steps out in front of you.
In Doom almost every enemy surprises you from behind so it involves alot of quick 360 turning that probably wont work too well with a control pad.
 
Dr_Cogent said:
I don't give a shit if it's a problem on your rig or not. I don't need to prove anything to you. It stutters/hitches on multiple peoples machines that I know. HL2 = POS. Don't like it? Tough.

Maybe you would have a clue if you were on the Steam forums since launch day. It's been a mess ever since then.

Go tell Musashi Wins about how great HL2 is
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Everyone has a right to their opinion, but not everyone has a right to their own facts. Just because some number of HL2 users are having a problem doesn't mean EVERYONE has the problem. Objectively, it's probably difficult to know how large or small the problem is. I don't know of many PC games that don't cause some problems for users. Sometimes it's the game, and sometimes, and a rather large sometimes I might add, it's user error.

Linking one shrub-brush website and the Steam forums, where people who have problems would logically gravitate, is not proof that "HL2=POS". It's your OPINION, and responding to my post like some High School Harry with an unnaturally tight sphincter won't make it anything more.

Frankly, I don't give a rat's ass what you think either. That doesn't mean you can make a piss-poor qualified statement like HL2=POS; and not go unchallenged. That's JMO of course, which unlike your's is FACT-right?. :lol :lol :lol
 
HokieJoe said:
Everyone has a right to their opinion, but not everyone has a right to their own facts. Just because some number of HL2 users are having a problem doesn't mean EVERYONE has the problem. Objectively, it's probably difficult to know how large or small the problem is. I don't know of many PC games that don't cause some problems for users. Sometimes it's the game, and sometimes, and a rather large sometimes I might add, it's user error.

Linking one shrub-brush website and the Steam forums, where people who have problems would logically gravitate, is not proof that "HL2=POS". It's your OPINION, and responding to my post like some High School Harry with an unnaturally tight sphincter won't make it anything more.

Frankly, I don't give a rat's ass what you think either. That doesn't mean you can make a piss-poor qualified statement like HL2=POS; and not go unchallenged. That's JMO of course, which unlike your's is FACT-right?. :lol :lol :lol
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No shit it's an opinion you idiot. Who said it was fact? Please, point me where I claimed it was fact. If you cannot, then please, STFU.

I don't think I should have to append IMO to every single comment I make.
 
The HL2 stuttering problem has been well documented (sort of) and tracked since launch. It has nothing to do with the amount of RAM on your video card or main system, it's just part of their shitty engine. A while ago Valve blamed it on texture thrashing (ie, swapping textures on/off video card memory) but their fix didn't seem to do much judging by the results on the steampowered forums.
 
blackadde said:
The HL2 stuttering problem has been well documented (sort of) and tracked since launch. It has nothing to do with the amount of RAM on your video card or main system, it's just part of their shitty engine. A while ago Valve blamed it on texture thrashing (ie, swapping textures on/off video card memory) but their fix didn't seem to do much judging by the results on the steampowered forums.
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Amazing, someone who actually knows the situation.

Agreed. Shitty engine. HL2 uses said shitty engine, hence my POS comment.

That doesn't mean everyone has to freakin agree with me. It's an opinion, but obviously that blew right over someones head.

Hokie would sure be singing a different tune if he was bit by the bug.
 
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