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Official F1 Hungarian GP thread...

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Shinobi

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Qualifying's just about to start...here are this morning's times.

Hungarian Grand Prix session four times


1. RAIKKONEN McLaren 1m20.203s

2. MONTOYA McLaren 1m20.517s

3. M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari 1m20.773s

4. R.SCHUMACHER Toyota 1m20.903s

5. BARRICHELLO Ferrari 1m21.266s

6. FISICHELLA Renault 1m21.276s

7. BUTTON BAR 1m21.301s

8. ALONSO Renault 1m21.336s

9. SATO BAR 1m21.880s

10. WEBBER Williams 1m21.889s

11. KLIEN Red Bull 1m22.340s

12. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m22.534s

13. TRULLI Toyota 1m22.699s

14. MASSA Sauber 1m22.753s

15. HEIDFELD Williams 1m22.949s

16. ALBERS Minardi 1m22.979s

17. VILLENEUVE Sauber 1m22.985s

18. DOORNBOS Minardi 1m23.358s

19. KARTHIKEYAN Jordan 1m24.265s

20. MONTEIRO Jordan 1m24.628s

Toyota was really strong yesterday, getting first, fourth and fifth in the afternoon practice session.

Couple more notes...Jordan will be supplied engines by Toyota next year, while Williams has signed with Cosworth.
 
I'll put qualifying comments in spoilers, can never tell what time their gonna show it for you americans.

Schumacher is obviously running light to be that far ahead of everyone but it is also pretty clear that for once the ferrari actually has some decent pace. Should be an interesting race especially with Kimi qualifying ahead of Alonso

Can anyone tell me if Ferrari have changed the sponsorship placement on the car... im sure something looks different but I can't figure out what.
 
Why do they keep coming back to this horrible track ? There's nowhere to overtake and the 'race' is always just one long procession from start to finish with positions only changing during the pitstops or because of mechanical failure.
It's even more boring than Monaco where you have at least the nice scenery and the sense of motoring history.
 
All other tracks in the calander have changed over the years, to not only make the racing safer, but add overtaking opportunities. For some reason, the Hungarian GP track has remained exactly the same for 20 years and I too wonder why they bother going there... it's the most pointless race of the season.
 
Phantom said:
Can anyone tell me if Ferrari have changed the sponsorship placement on the car... im sure something looks different but I can't figure out what.

Typically I fell asleep during qualifying (it's on again at 2:30 am EST on Speed), but I think starting today new EU anti-smoking regulations go into effect where you're not allowed to show cigarette ads on TV in EU nations. Whatever the Ferrari cars had (I haven't seen 'em yet), that might've had something to do with it. Though there's all sorts of confusion regarding the regulations, which just shows how worthless the whole anti-smoking movement is.

Anyway, here are the quali times...

Qualifying times for the Hungarian Grand Prix

1. M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari 1m19.882s
2. MONTOYA McLaren 1m20.779s
3. TRULLI Toyota 1m20.839s
4. RAIKKONEN McLaren 1m20.891s
5. R.SCHUMACHER Toyota 1m20.964s
6. ALONSO Renault 1m21.141s
7. BARRICHELLO Ferrari 1m21.158s
8. BUTTON BAR 1m21.302s
9. FISICHELLA Renault 1m21.333s
10. SATO BAR 1m21.787s
11. KLIEN Red Bull 1m21.937s
12. HEIDFELD Williams 1m22.086s
13. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m22.279s
14. MASSA Sauber 1m22.565s
15. VILLENEUVE Sauber 1m22.866s
16. WEBBER Williams 1m23.495s
17. ALBERS Minardi 1m24.443s
18. KARTHIKEYAN Jordan 1m25.057s
19. DOORNBOS Minardi 1m25.484s
20. MONTEIRO Jordan no time

Schumacher finally gets his first pole of the season...good for him. Car was probably running on fumes though. :lol Would be nice to see him break the record this year, and get a legit win under his belt as well. And Kimi was just sick...first car out on that dirt road, and manages to get on the second row ahead of Alonso. Gotta give that car credit as well...performance wise it's just incredible.

And yeah, this track fucking sucks...I can't believe they left the A1 in Austria, but keep returning to this nowhere-to-pass dust heap.
 
All the Ferrari guys are giving credit to the tires (Bridgestone gave them a new compound this weekend), though they all seemed baffled as to why they're working so well now.

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=33656
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=33658

And once again Jenson Button's in the middle of a contract shit storm, allegedly even offering to pay Williams $3.5 million of his own coin to stay at BAR. :lol I never understood why he wanted to switch last year in the first place, so in some ways if he was forced to go, it'd be what he deserved. But I'd sooner see him stay at BAR then get wasted away at the mess that's currently making up Williams.
 
According to Bild (german magazine) , Rubnes is leaving Ferrari after this season (he will be driving with BAR next year) and Massa will take his seat.
 
Hmmmm, my prediction for the race...
Any mcLaren that manages to stay/get ahead of race-ruiner Trulli after the 1st lap will win. Kimi-Montoya, in that order if they both pull it off. Otherwise Schumi.
 
Shinobi said:
All the Ferrari guys are giving credit to the tires (Bridgestone gave them a new compound this weekend), though they all seemed baffled as to why they're working so well now.

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=33656
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=33658

It'd be great if Schumacher laid the smackdown on these kids. :D


But...


Ferrari technical director Ross Brawn admitted that the team had opted for an “aggressive” fuel strategy, but insisted that was sensible given the importance of track position at the twisty Hungaroring.

So he's got 14-16 laps of fuel on board and the other front runners have 22-26 laps . :(
 
Another bitter sweet result for McLaren...they had a 1/2 in the bag, but this time Montoya was the one who felt the bite of fate. Fortunately Kimi's car stayed together the entire race, and cruised to victory. The battle between him and Michael for the first third of the race was fun to watch, as I think Michael was genuinely as quick as Kimi and even stayed out a few more laps. But the Bridgestones wore down a lot sooner, and once Kimi stayed out an extra lap on the second pit stop to get around Michael, it was game over. Renaults didn't score any points (Fisi was 9th, Alonso 11th which was partially due to a nose change after the first lap) which was surprising...figured those cars would clean up on this circuit. And a great run for Ralf, finishing third.
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/4731831.stm

Ferrari confirm Barrichello exit

Ferrari have confirmed that Rubens Barrichello will leave the team at the end of the Formula One season.

Barrichello's place as number two driver to Michael Schumacher will be taken by fellow Brazilian Felipe Massa, the 24-year-old currently with Sauber.

Reports suggest Barrichello, who won nine Grands Prix in five years with Ferrari, has signed a deal with BAR.
 
They say Rubes is tipped to replace Sato, which makes sense...that guy hasn't done shit in about a year now. A Button/Barichello pairing would be pretty nice, but there isn't a chance they're gonna keep him...Williams has his ass on lock, whether he likes it or not.
 
First, congrats to Kimi on his win. But congrats to Schuey on a pole!!! :D :D :D

Sad to see Rubens go. I thought he was the best teammate Michael ever had, and he's one of the top drivers on the grid. He'll spank Button next year IMO. But Benson should be leaving too. Taku's sucked this season, so fuck 'em. Massa ain't that good either IMO. I'm not very pleased to see him in that #2...soon to be #6. :( I really wanted to see Kimi or Fonso getting groomed in that season. But neither has a reason to leave their teams now with the success they're having. But wait until either Ferrari moved to Michelin, or the BStones get back in gear. That seat will be coveted once more. I can't wait for September when I can buy a tv and get tivo. It sucks right now, even if the season hasn't exactly gone our way. As boring as the races are, I need my F1 fix...bad. PEACE.
 
I think it's pretty obvious Ferrari has Kimi on their radar to replace Michael the moment he retires. I don't think Kimi would go to Ferrari for a billion dollars so long as Michael is there, cause it means he's gonna be the number two. But if he's hired to fill Michael's seat, going to a team that's had one of the greatest relability records of the modern era, you'd better believe he'll jump.

Kimi I believe has one year left on his current deal, and McLaren has begun negotiations with his agent(s). It's obviously in McLaren's best interests to lock his ass up long term. It's also in their best interests to give Kimi a car that's as reliable as it's quick. The latter issue has been plauging Kimi for a few years now, and at some point it's gotta get a little tired for him.
 
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