Futureman said:
I haven't read through this whole thread so maybe it's already been touched on, but what about all the violence in Islam? I seems to me that the Koran advocates a fair amount of violence. Now I guess you can interpret the Koran in different ways, or selectively pick out what you like and don't like (which in my view makes you quite un-Muslim), but why should we be living our lives by a book that is so ambiguous when it comes to violence?
Okay,this will be the longest post in GAF history
The Qur'an is less violent then the bible and Torah, the few verses that focus on self defense have been taken out of context by individual who thrive on bloodshed.
The only wars Muslims ever fought were the battle for freedom to practice their religion. I'm too tired to type it all again but here it is:
Deliberate actions are taken to take the Qur'an out of context .Have you ever read the verse that Osama Bin Laden uses to take up arms ? He starts reading them the verses:
002.190 Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, ( he-stops there and skips this )
but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors.
002.191 And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.
( he doesn't even mention this)
002.192 But if they cease, God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
he takes it OUT OF CONTEXT FOR HIS OWN GAIN.
These verses focused on self defense,Islam is the whole of it,not I take what I want and leave the rest.
PhlegmMaster said:
Three questions:
1) What is this "true" Islam you're answering questions about, meaning how do you determine what "true" Islam is?
Is it what the Qur'an says? Is it what the Qur'an and some Hadith say? Is it what the Qur'an and all Hadith say? Or is it what the majority of Muslims worldwide believe that Islam is?
2) What does Islam say should be done to apostates (ex-Muslims)?
3) We all know that the Qur'an and Hadith have many things to say about how Christians and Jews should be seen and treated, but what about followers of non-Abrahamic religions, religions that are not "of the Book"?
1) What is this "true" Islam you're answering questions about, meaning how do you determine what "true" Islam is?
The true Islam can be found when taking the pure arabic Qur'an ( those words are very sophisticated) to its literal meaning, again what certain people do these days is take the qur'an and use it as an incentive to go to war, it has the power to capture your heart and mind.
"Do not kill yourselves as God has been to you very merciful" (4:29)
Then Suicide bombing is clearly
UNISLAMIC!
They know that, but they use it to deceive people, I point you to the post above^^.
2) What does Islam say should be done to apostates (ex-Muslims)?
Qur'an
(2:256)
There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way. Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing.
3) We all know that the Qur'an and Hadith have many things to say about how Christians and Jews should be seen and treated, but what about followers of non-Abrahamic religions, religions that are not "of the Book"?
Anyone not Christian or Jewish is regarded disbeliever in Islam, polytheism was what Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them all) came to combat. Allah Created everything and only asks for acknowledgement in return. Attributing partners to The One God would be to deny Him His God-hood, as such it would be diminishing His Power in some regard. Being a God means that there is no need for help or cooperation from anything or anyone and that you are Unique.
Jason's Ultimatum said:
I agree. The irony is hilarious, but muslim women are among the hottest women in the world. FACT.
I agree to this fact.
Kapsama said:
I just skimmed the first post, and while I appreciate the effort as a Muslim myself, I have to point out that your post is very inflammatory and "challenging" if not outright insulting to Non-Muslims in some parts.
Thank you for your post,
The OP was intended to be the most non-flammatory and most moderate approach I have ever written, care to tell me what was inflammatory about it?
Gig said:
What does the Quran say about the environment and its preservation?
Islam opposes doing harm to the environment this verse points to pollution:
Qur'an:
"Corruption has appeared throughout the land and sea by (reason of) what the hands of people have earned, so He (i.e. Allaah) may let them taste part of (the consequences of) what they have done that perhaps they will return (to righteousness).[Quran 30:41]