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Official NCAA 2007 360 League Thread: Maurice Drew Eulogy Within

When I got up 31-7 early in the 3rd quarter I started running HB Dives and Guts almost exclusively. I think I passed the ball 2-3 times in the 2nd half. You can see the evidence by my 41 running plays in the game. On that last drive, I was hiking it with 10-15 seconds on each play because I still wanted you to have a chance to get the ball back. I was still running HB Dives almost every play and you were doing a pretty damn good job gobbling them up. On that last drive, I got to the 5 yard line and ran three straight running plays up the middle. I think I was on the 3 and it was 4th down. You and stopped me for a loss or no gain three times in a row so I was just going to run it up the middle again, figuring you'd stop me again. Stupid Corso told me to kick a field goal, which is the true asshole thing to do at the end of a blowout, and with the lag I accidentally hit A too fast and picked the field goal, which is why I then called a timeout.

I'm not sure if you watch a lot of college football, but at least in the SEC they will NEVER kick field goals in blowouts if they are deep in enemy territory. They will just continue to run the ball up the middle, even on fourth down, and it will either result in a first down or a change of possession. I thought by running the ball I was doing the right thing. Kneeling the ball is just taking pity, which sucks, and going for 3 is even worse. The way you were stopping most of my dives and crashing the middle I was positive that you would stop me. If I really wanted to be an asshole and run up the score I would've been running options, running outside, and passing, but I didn't do any of that virtually the entire second half. I ended the game averaging 3.2 yards a rush and I wasn't driving to score. I'd already punted the ball once or twice in the 4th.

I'm really sorry if I offended you or pissed you off, but that was not my intention. I really thought I was doing the right thing. I would love to have feedback on what to do in that situation, and again, I truly apologize for pissing you off. That is the last thing that I want to do here because I've had a ton of fun playing my games so far and playing with this group.

P.S. Shawn had nothing to do with this!!!
 

CB3

intangibles, motherfucker
mmlemay said:
When I got up 31-7 early in the 3rd quarter I started running HB Dives and Guts almost exclusively. I think I passed the ball 2-3 times in the 2nd half. You can see the evidence by my 41 running plays in the game. On that last drive, I was hiking it with 10-15 seconds on each play because I still wanted you to have a chance to get the ball back. I was still running HB Dives almost every play and you were doing a pretty damn good job gobbling them up. On that last drive, I got to the 5 yard line and ran three straight running plays up the middle. I think I was on the 3 and it was 4th down. You and stopped me for a loss or no gain three times in a row so I was just going to run it up the middle again, figuring you'd stop me again. Stupid Corso told me to kick a field goal, which is the true asshole thing to do at the end of a blowout, and with the lag I accidentally hit A too fast and picked the field goal, which is why I then called a timeout.

I'm not sure if you watch a lot of college football, but at least in the SEC they will NEVER kick field goals in blowouts if they are deep in enemy territory. They will just continue to run the ball up the middle, even on fourth down, and it will either result in a first down or a change of possession. I thought by running the ball I was doing the right thing. Kneeling the ball is just taking pity, which sucks, and going for 3 is even worse. The way you were stopping most of my dives and crashing the middle I was positive that you would stop me. If I really wanted to be an asshole and run up the score I would've been running options, running outside, and passing, but I didn't do any of that virtually the entire second half. I ended the game averaging 3.2 yards a rush and I wasn't driving to score. I'd already punted the ball once or twice in the 4th.

I'm really sorry if I offended you or pissed you off, but that was not my intention. I really thought I was doing the right thing. I would love to have feedback on what to do in that situation, and again, I truly apologize for pissing you off. That is the last thing that I want to do here because I've had a ton of fun playing my games so far and playing with this group.

P.S. Shawn had nothing to do with this!!!

Thats the one line that stands out to me. Kneeling the ball isnt pity, "running" to let your opponent get the ball back because you feel bad for him is pity. kneeling is just ending the game like it should be ended. i bet i can speak for many people that i rather have my opponent end the game with a QB Kneel than to keep on running it. Me getting the ball back with a minute left after its already a blow-out isnt on my mind on that point.

Also, you,as well as everyone should know, that on any given running play there is a chance to break one and get a TD. ESPECIALLY at the Goal line

My Advice, Next time your in that situation, just kneel the ball and end it. Its much better in every way.

Since its the first time, im not gonna do anything. im sure FMT isnt gonna make a huge deal out of it on this case. But im going to go ahead and reiterate his point

there is a no tolerance policy from here on out.

No Tolerance for running up the score. Ill say it again. NO TOLERANCE I dont care if you dont exactly mean it to happen that way. Do the Right thing and it wont be an issue
 

Truelize

Steroid Distributor
I'll jump in here and say one thing.

I have never heard anything before this about mmlemay playing unfair online with the GAF crew.


I doubt we'll hear anything again.
 

CB3

intangibles, motherfucker
Truelize said:
I'll jump in here and say one thing.

I have never heard anything before this about mmlemay playing unfair online with the GAF crew.


I doubt we'll hear anything again.

Thats why besides that post im not doing anything or mentioning it beyond now. I understand that Shit happens sometimes
 

Truelize

Steroid Distributor
Hey everyone, whats the status with azwethinkaboutaneasiertag (my gosh)? Is he still an active player?

if so buddy you are next.
 

hgplayer1

Member
i was in a situation like this before but it was pretty obvious my opponent was trying to score late in a blowout. forgot what his excuse was but I wasnt calling time outs or anything. i just wanted the game to end.

in this situation mmlemay you could have missed the FG purposely or just kneeled until a change of posession.

I think the general rule of thumb is see if your opponent is calling time outs to try to stop the clock to get the ball back. if he is, then at that point everythings fair game. if hes not then take that as a hint that hes just letting the game end. if you have the ball and are just running simple run plays and hes not stopping you, get somewhere around his 30 yard line and start kneeling using up all the play clock.

I dont think there are any perfect solutions but I think if you know football youll make the right decision.
 

vumpler

If You Can't Beat 'Em, Talk Shit About 'Em
How you like it Cloudy? You had that cheap runback at the start but I still came out on top. Pwned :D
 
Truelize said:
Hey everyone, whats the status with azwethinkaboutaneasiertag (my gosh)? Is he still an active player?

if so buddy you are next.

I think he's actually on a road trip to Alabama so he won't be around much this weekend - maybe tonight, though.
 

vumpler

If You Can't Beat 'Em, Talk Shit About 'Em
Hehe yeah good game. I was screaming the whole time either good or bad lol. Probably the most emotional game I've played of any NCAA ever lol. Have to get that stress out somehow ;)
 
WHOA! Evray boday needs to cooooooooooooool out! (you get the #1 pick in the madden league if you can tell me where that reference is from!)

i blame myself for the running up of scores, and other rule breaking transgressions. i did not specify with enough authority that those things are not to happen in any circumstance. we are all friends again.
 
hgplayer1 said:
i was in a situation like this before but it was pretty obvious my opponent was trying to score late in a blowout. forgot what his excuse was but I wasnt calling time outs or anything. i just wanted the game to end.

in this situation mmlemay you could have missed the FG purposely or just kneeled until a change of posession.

I think the general rule of thumb is see if your opponent is calling time outs to try to stop the clock to get the ball back. if he is, then at that point everythings fair game. if hes not then take that as a hint that hes just letting the game end. if you have the ball and are just running simple run plays and hes not stopping you, get somewhere around his 30 yard line and start kneeling using up all the play clock.

I dont think there are any perfect solutions but I think if you know football youll make the right decision.

I understand and it won't happen again. He did call one timeout at the end but he stopped calling them and I should've run the clock down more each play.
 

vumpler

If You Can't Beat 'Em, Talk Shit About 'Em
FrenchMovieTheme said:
WHOA! Evray boday needs to cooooooooooooool out! (you get the #1 pick in the madden league if you can tell me where that reference is from!)

I might not know the exact reference from that one because that's very vague and there's no telling... But Everyone needs to cool out has tons of references I can think of. Horsefeathers is one.
 

cubanb

Banned
mmlemay said:
I understand and it won't happen again. He did call one timeout at the end but he stopped calling them and I should've run the clock down more each play.
Well, that timeout was on your previous possesion when I still had a chance in hell.
this was the next. Whatever, Im over it, just remember next time, if I am not doing anything on d at the end , I want the game to be ran out.

I understand what you were thinking, but running out the clock and letting the playclock run down before snapping is the proper thing to do when your opponent gives up in the 4th
 

Truelize

Steroid Distributor
FrenchMovieTheme said:
WHOA! Evray boday needs to cooooooooooooool out! (you get the #1 pick in the madden league if you can tell me where that reference is from!)


Dazed and Confused??
 

CB3

intangibles, motherfucker
cubanb said:
****, i forgot we were supposed to play. How late are you going to be up tonight?

Im a late sleeper, but i have to get up early in the morning. so id say 1AM PST :D
 

cubanb

Banned
ColdBlooded33 said:
Im a late sleeper, but i have to get up early in the morning. so id say 1AM PST :D
allright, can u give me an hour and half to sober up:)

I am still recovering from the asswhooping I had last game
 

vumpler

If You Can't Beat 'Em, Talk Shit About 'Em
When's the next vote? Because there's a chance I could squeeze in the top 5. :D
 

vumpler

If You Can't Beat 'Em, Talk Shit About 'Em
I can't seem to find the playoff / bowl game specification in the rules. Can someone post a link?
 

Cloudy

Banned
Just a question here (Don't take it wrong, vumpler cos you beat me fair and square :D):

Why is coneless play considered cheese while constant option isn't?
 

Truelize

Steroid Distributor
Cloudy said:
Just a question here (Don't take it wrong, vumpler cos you beat me fair and square :D):

Why is coneless play considered cheese while constant option isn't?

oh constant option is cheese for sure. But so is coneless play.
 

CB3

intangibles, motherfucker
Damn, awsome game with Cubanb. Defensive struggle on both sides. I managed a winning FG with no time left on the clock. He had the best D ive played yet, CRUSHED my running game. Tyrone moss averaged 2.2 YPC -_-. My longest run was 10 yards, and it was by my QB :lol
 

vumpler

If You Can't Beat 'Em, Talk Shit About 'Em
I would have to say the option is the easiest play to stop in the playbook... No matter what side.. And I'll leave it at that. But regardless I can't really comment but you're questioning my judgment to run the option so no matter what my opinion is biased. You played a great game as well but as far as NCAA goes anything that works near every time is considered cheese play, and since every time you steped out of the pocket and tossed it straight over the middle (at least 4 times in crucial long 3rd downs) you converted them all. I consider that cheese play because on two of them I was standing RIGHT there and the AI just won't let me have or the ball no matter how well timed A button was. I read them like a book and I couldn't stop them. Regardless though anything can be seen as cheese play in that game when using successful routes. There's just no such thing as a good play / good route really because the ones that are good I see as being the ones with a decent size completion rate, others see that as cheese. So regardless everyone cheeses to someone, we just try to keep in minimal :)
 

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
any play could be considered cheese if "used too much" Slants, curls, posts, fade, off tackle, Maurice Drew, Option, QB Kneel, Ask Corso, and the Statue of Liberty play.

PEEEEACE
 
Lonestar said:
any play could be considered cheese if "used too much" Slants, curls, posts, fade, off tackle, Maurice Drew, Option, QB Kneel, Ask Corso, and the Statue of Liberty play.

PEEEEACE

Lone - I don't have much going on this morning, let me know if you feel like playing a game!

gstaff, FMT, MrSparkles - Let me know if you want to play our Week 5/6/7 games today or tomorrow. After that, I'm not going to be around until next Thursday so I'd like to get my games in ASAP.

Peanut Gallery - Is MrSparkles playing the Minnesota games or are they always someone else? If it's someone else, would someone (Lone, vump) like to fill-in?
 

Cloudy

Banned
and since every time you steped out of the pocket and tossed it straight over the middle (at least 4 times in crucial long 3rd downs) you converted them all. I consider that cheese play

Am I supposed to stay in the pocket to get sacked again when you blitz? Like 7 isn't enough :D

Anyways, my point isn't that you're cheese or whatever. If running the option every other play is what makes you comfortable, that's fine. Coneless play makes me comfortable and it's just as "cheap" as option over and over and over IMO.

In other words, I think being forced to use cone is crap :p
 

vumpler

If You Can't Beat 'Em, Talk Shit About 'Em
Cloudy said:
Am I supposed to stay in the pocket to get sacked again when you blitz? Like 7 isn't enough :D

Anyways, my point isn't that you're cheese or whatever. If running the option every other play is what makes you comfortable, that's fine. Coneless play makes me comfortable and it's just as "cheap" as option over and over and over IMO.

In other words, I think being forced to use cone is crap :p

Eh I think the rules as far as cone etc should be established game by game basis... Example how you moved your Dline, that's fine by me so I moved my D line as well. If I would have known I wouldn't have required cone because it's personal preference to me. I think the advantage is 100% in favor of the cone but that's just me.

And yes mmlemay I would love to fill in any time after 2pm CST.
 

CB3

intangibles, motherfucker
:lol Konex, you are BEARLY forced to use the cone. its almost a non factor since you ****ers voted against having it on at all times, having to bring it up right before you pass is NOTHING. I still use the cone at all times even though i dont have to
 

vumpler

If You Can't Beat 'Em, Talk Shit About 'Em
I think it would be nice if everyone could finish up all their games before Thursday. I would like to get in the playoffs before 18th. I get married on the day Madden comes out, so I'll be on the beach in florida. There seems to be a chance I'll make the playoffs so if so I would like to get to play my games :)
 

gstaff

Member
So last night Truelize and I tried to play again (tried another 8 times) and the connection refused to allow us to play. In an effort to keep things moving, I forfeit the game. Is there anything we're doing to show the score for the game. Should I have played someone else for week 3. Should I just move to my week 4 game?

I'm home sick from work, so send me an AIM if we're supposed to play.
 

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
Lone is still at work, though I think we are getting near the conclusion to Inventory, so I might be out of here by 3 or 4 PM EST. And I believe I won't be needed for tomorrow at work!

And I seemed to have the same problems with gstaff a week or 2 ago, when I tried to fill in for Minnesota against him. Would disconnect at the choose a team screen.
 
gstaff said:
So last night Truelize and I tried to play again (tried another 8 times) and the connection refused to allow us to play. In an effort to keep things moving, I forfeit the game. Is there anything we're doing to show the score for the game. Should I have played someone else for week 3. Should I just move to my week 4 game?

I'm home sick from work, so send me an AIM if we're supposed to play.

Let's play our week 5 game now! What's your info?

I'm dammitmattt, aim mmlemayau
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Kevtones,can you play our week 4 game tommorow night or Sunday?
 
Truelize said:
Hey everyone, whats the status with azwethinkaboutaneasiertag (my gosh)? Is he still an active player?

if so buddy you are next.

No easier tag for you! Yeah pretty much I'm out of town for the weekend. I made multiple posts about it so I figured anyone who was playing me would be in the know. I can play the game on Sunday night, which I figure isn't too big of a deal since like the next 4 weeks of play are open right now. If it needs to be played, then I understand if a sub plays for me, although I'd like to keep fighting for my undefeated record.
 

Truelize

Steroid Distributor
Azwethinkweiz said:
No easier tag for you! Yeah pretty much I'm out of town for the weekend. I made multiple posts about it so I figured anyone who was playing me would be in the know. I can play the game on Sunday night, which I figure isn't too big of a deal since like the next 4 weeks of play are open right now. If it needs to be played, then I understand if a sub plays for me, although I'd like to keep fighting for my undefeated record.

I've got no problem waiting. I'll talk to you on Sunday then.


Matrix: if you can play sometime this weekend let me know.
 
my reference was from the upright citizens brigade TV show! you all blew your chance to get ANY team you wanted (including the 49ers!) in the madden draft. for shame!
 

vumpler

If You Can't Beat 'Em, Talk Shit About 'Em
Ok guys I either want to get a game in of mine (against Texas or OSU) or I want to sub for someone :) So lets go girls! :D
 
vumpler said:
Ok guys I either want to get a game in of mine (against Texas or OSU) or I want to sub for someone :) So lets go girls! :D

Is it confirmed that we are subbing all games for MrSparkles (Minnesota)?
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Truelize said:
I've got no problem waiting. I'll talk to you on Sunday then.


Matrix: if you can play sometime this weekend let me know.

I might aswell play my week 5 game,im getting no response from my week 4 opponent.

I can play anytime tomorrow night or Sunday night.Whats time you want your free W?
 
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