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Official Neogaf 3DMark Timespy league table - the ULTIMATE epeen showdown
baphomet
Member
Yes, there are 5090s scoring 10,000 above you in graphics score. If you're hitting 400fps and your GPU is at 80%, then you're likely CPU bound.
Who is getting 10k more and at what clock? the Hall of famers? Its possible by addressing the other bottlenecks but not with high temp clocks on the GPU.
Exactly that's the point. The GPU test is being limited by other things that aren't the GPU. It's not the CPU either because that is not hitting 100% either at those moments. It appears to be memory and poor cpu utilisation, something else that Timespy Extreme addresses over Timespy.
3DMark - Time Spy Extreme is here - Steam News
Today's big 3DMark update adds a new DirectX 12 benchmark test for 4K gaming PCs. Time Spy Extreme is a benchmark for gamers who want to play at the highest settings, system builders configuring 4K-capable machines, and overclockers pushing the latest hardware for every bit of extra performance...
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baphomet
Member
How do you check individual GPU scores of others? Who is getting 10k more and at what clock. Its possible by addressing the other bottlenecks but not with high temp clocks.
Exactly that's the point. The GPU test is being limited by other things that aren't the GPU. It's not the CPU either because that is not hitting 100% either at those moments. It appears to be memory and poor cpu utilisation, something else that Timespy Extreme addresses over Timespy.
3DMark - Time Spy Extreme is here - Steam News
Today's big 3DMark update adds a new DirectX 12 benchmark test for 4K gaming PCs. Time Spy Extreme is a benchmark for gamers who want to play at the highest settings, system builders configuring 4K-capable machines, and overclockers pushing the latest hardware for every bit of extra performance...store.steampowered.com
Again, it isn't the test.
If neither your CPU or GPU are hitting 100%, then you've got issues elsewhere. These tests are going to hit the bounds of one or the other.
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/53975570
Obviously this is a nitrogen cooled run, but the point is that the test scales with the hardware. The graphics score is at the top under the combined score. 56,106 for the graphics score.
KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
Just download the 3D Mark demo and launch it, Timespy should be installed by default
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Well obviously there are other bottlenecks to the test but what you said was
"Time Spy will max your GPU, that's the entire point of it. It should stay at 100% and pump out as many frames as it possibly can."
And I said it doesn't hit 100% on the GPU.
The point of the GPU test is to test your GPU and not be limited by other things. Timespy became dated and hit other bottlenecks quickly with newer cards and so they created Timespy Extreme so that the GPU is limited in the test again. You can increase the GPU clock by 1/3 and score only 700 points more in your GPU score. Why? Because you're not limited by your GPU in that GPU test.
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analog_future
Resident Crybaby
baphomet
Member
I literally explained all of it to you.
You seemed to think that your GPU was maxing out Time Spy, which it wasn't. Then you also said it isn't maxing out your CPU. Which would mean you've got something going on if a stress test isn't actually stressing your system.
GHG
Gold Member
I'm going through the posts one by one, still have quite a few to get through.
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I'm not sure what we're discussing then. It seems like we're saying the same thing? I said the benchmark isn't maxing out the GPU not that the GPU is maxing out some kind of fps hard limit on timespy:
I said it's not maxing the GPU or CPU on newer cards. It's not nitrogen cooled overclocked GPUs since its GPU test doesn't scale well with GPU potential. I said clocking a 5090 30% higher gets you less than 2% increase in GPU score because the benchmark has issues scaling and they addressed some of its issues in Timespy Extreme. Only newer GPU benchmarks like Speedway 100% the GPU.
Makoto-Yuki
has the very highest end CPU yet his 5090 doesn't hit 100% either. Timespy itself has problems utilising the GPU and CPU properly, issues they tried to address in Extreme.
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Makoto-Yuki
Gold Member
should we have done the 4K time spy instead?I'm not sure what we're discussing then. It seems like we're saying the same thing? I said the benchmark isn't maxing out the GPU not that the GPU is maxing out some kind of fps hard limit on timespy:
I said it's not maxing the GPU or CPU on newer cards. It's not nitrogen cooled overclocked GPUs since its GPU test doesn't scale well with GPU potential. I said clocking a 5090 30% higher gets you less than 2% increase in GPU score because the benchmark has issues scaling and they addressed some of its issues in Timespy Extreme. Only newer GPU benchmarks like Speedway 100% the GPU.
other benchmarks have no problem hitting 100% usage but time spy will go to as low as ~79%. my RAM is 6000 CL32. i've turned all virtualisation off and disabled v/g-sync on software and hardware level. nothing i've tried makes my GPU hit 100% in the basic time spy. i've done countless clean installs with DDU across the latest official WHQL driver and the latest hotfix driver.
steel nomad hits 100% all the way through but i don't know if that is a GPU only test.
EDIT: done time spy 4k. stayed 99-100% gpu usage. if we want to see who has the most powerful PC then it makes more sense to run benches with at least 4K imo
I scored 22 991 in Time Spy Extreme
AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 x 1, 65536 MB, 64-bit Windows 11}
www.3dmark.com
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Rossco EZ
Member
as long as you can still play the stuff you want at reasonable settings thats all that matters
//DEVIL//
Member
I just remembered that my test was done with silent bios on not performance. I know the performance Bios on Astral has a higher clock. but I am too lazy to do the test again. happy with my current score.
Also. the new Bios update for Astral ( silent bios update ) is great. i don't hear the card at all now. Debaur still not happy but I am lol.
Also. the new Bios update for Astral ( silent bios update ) is great. i don't hear the card at all now. Debaur still not happy but I am lol.
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applesaucejaxon
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I wouldn't be able to live with that graphics score. I'd have to close one app down to get from 19,999 to 20,000
keefged4
Member
Given the prices of the latest cards, do you really need a higher score? I am near the bottom of the rankings and can play everything I want to at 4k using DLSS, sometimes not, with framerates well above 60 at all times. So it doesn't bother me, I can only imagine the outlay involved for some of the larger epeen scores.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Just depends on a person's budget and what they want to get out of their experience.
4070 is a great card, but many (including myself) don't want to play at 4K DLSS Performance/60fps with no path-tracing or other ultra+ settings. I want to play, at minimum, no worse than 4K DLAA or DLSS Quality/90fps, everything maxed out. And I have the funds to do so, so why not?
Would never pay scalper prices though. Fuck scalpers
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notseqi
Gold Member
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Reinstalling 3d mark now. I'll post my results shortly!
Not going to overclock anything. Just run the standard settings.
Well, apart from my memory has xmp enabled.
Not going to overclock anything. Just run the standard settings.
Well, apart from my memory has xmp enabled.
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keefged4
Member
All the power to you man, I hear ya. If I had the funds I'd defo do the same. DLSS4 Performance is wizardry though, I'm able to hit 90fps+ in most games I play. I will most likely mean I'll be sticking with my 4070 for a while.