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[HK-47]

Exactly, that was the point that people were getting at. LTD I think the Wii version will sell about 1 million or close to it (I mean god the crappy COD3 Wii got damn near that just in the US)

I think it will be 360----------------------------->PS3------>Wii

But I do not see the PS3 version doing anything super spectacular in comparison to being just in the middle of the other two versions

CoD3 Wii sold near one million in the US alone? What? I was under the impression that it wasnt even near that including EU sales

 

[donny2112]

I wonder if the 360 will hit 1 million units sold for November because of Gears of War 2?

No. I expect it to sell to pretty much the same people who bought Gears of War 1, and who, thus, already have a 360. I think the 360 might reach as high as 800K, but it will mostly be due to continuing effects of the price cut. The Black Friday deals certainly will help, as well.

CoD3 Wii sold near one million in the US alone?

I don't believe so. Maybe as high as half a million, though.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Do we know exactly how much Wii Music sold?

 

[donny2112]

Do we know exactly how much Wii Music sold?

81K according to NPD.

 

[markatisu]

I don't believe so. Maybe as high as half a million, though.

It was around the 450-650k mark, we never got definite sales numbers as far as I know outside of what IGN would mention in their articles

I consider anything around 600-700k near a million (just to preface that)

 

[ZeoVGM]

Ah. I think it may be a little early to write it off now.

No real idea if it'll get better or worse though. I've heard so many mixed reactions from the game. Whether it be critics or normal people.

 

[Fafalada]

they should have put more focus into tighter controls that really appeal to female gamers because that could have really made it a much bigger hit then whatever it ends up selling.

You mean like the "tight" controls in Lego series made the game a hit with casual/female audience?

 

[HK-47]

No. I expect it to sell to pretty much the same people who bought Gears of War 1, and who, thus, already have a 360. I think the 360 might reach as high as 800K, but it will mostly be due to continuing effects of the price cut. The Black Friday deals certainly will help, as well.



I don't believe so. Maybe as high as half a million, though.

And I believe its got the 100k award over in the UK. It certainly did better than I originally thought though

 

[Flying_Phoenix]

No kidding, almost every DS and Wii game I buy (2-4 per month) never even chart, ever.

Yep.

 

[BishopLamont]

CoD3 launched alongside the PS3

A better comparison would be for CoD4 numbers, where it sold multiple millions on the PS3 and 360. The Wii version of CoD5 is going to do way worse than the PS3 and 360.

You do realise COD3 being a launch title for the PS3 helps its sales right? How is COD4 a better comparison when a Wii one doesn't even exist. You compare COD3 PS3 against COD3 Wii. You can't get anymore fairer then that.

You are correct, the July 2005 NPD listed Animal Crossing as

GCN ANIMAL CROSSING ($443,666.00) 22,277

It was not even in the Top 50 of the NPD that month :lol

GCN titles were not the evergreen sellers we see today on DS and Wii

Can't seem to find the release numbers at the moment

How is pulling a random month, 3 years after it's release suppose to prove anything? If anything 22k after 3 years would be considered good legs.

81K according to NPD.

Wasn't it something like 66k in the Nintendo NPD response press?

 

[Conflict NZ]

Rock on Nintendo

 

[jj984jj]

I guess we never found out how Castlevania did, did we?

 

[max-pain]

Didn't COD3 sell better on the Wii than it did on the PS3?

But PS3 had Resistance: FoM...

 

[Slavik81]

I think it's interesting that Wii Music is the first Wii game that GAF seemed to agree was going to sell like crazy, and then it sold poorly.

GAF thinking you'll do well is the kiss of death.

I hate to say this, because I didn't really push my opinion out there very hard, but I really doubted Wii Music. (I'd feel better about saying 'I told you so' if it were actually impressive or dangerous that I'd done so. Being loud about it would have helped that slightly.)

It just doesn't have the same appeal as the others do. At least in North America. There's a reason Wii Sports was a pack-in in North America and not Japan.

Now, why it did so poorly in Japan... that's a whole new question.

You do realise COD3 being a launch title for the PS3 helps its sales right? How is COD4 a better comparison when a Wii one doesn't even exist. You compare COD3 PS3 against COD3 Wii. You can't get anymore fairer then that.

Actually, I think it is kind of unfair. Call of Duty 3 wasn't the same game on all platforms. The Wii version in particular was much different from the others and generally got worse reviews because of it. Or...

Perhaps there was different competition near launch on the different platforms? Perhaps it was totally beaten by the hype for Red Steel and Zelda?

There are all kinds of factors that could affect the sales of a multiplatform game on different platforms.

(EDIT: I got your implication backwards, but the same sorts of things hold true in reverse. Perhaps PS3 owners knew the 360 version had better XXXX, while the Wii owners were just starved for games. Or whatever. It's hard to suggest single things that caused it.)

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

November 1 million Wii's?

That would take a 2% increase over last year. Considering every month other than January (which was down) has been up at least 12%, I'd say that's a pretty sure thing.

Even Xbox at it's peak was doing 1.2million in November. I think you'll see Wii closer to 2mill in November.

I think you're misremembering. Xbox only did well enough one December to round up to 1.2 million. 2 million would be all kinds of freakish. DS last year did 1.53 million in November and I believe that's the record to date; I'd imagine Wii will be in the same territory this year.

The only real question is if it can beat PS2's 2.7 million December.

Now that one I doubt. Nintendo has specifically said to expect supply for this holiday to be up about 50%. That was true of October, and it's also true of the through-October year-to-date total. December would have to be up 100% to hit 2.7 million. 50% up over last year would put it just over 2 million.

What are all these people doing with their Wiis? Mine pretty much just gathers dust.

Are my consoles malfunctioning? Powering them up never seems to turn on this "anti-dust" ability that some people's seem to have.

They've gotten a handful of decent games but the Wii has been out for 2 full years and, let's face it, there just aren't enough games on the system that appeal to the GAF demographic.

If GAF was anything near one demographic, it wouldn't argue with itself so much.

Is the PS3 the first "mainstream" console that have been $399 in it's second year by the way?

Sort of. X360 took over a year and a half to drop, so for much of its second year it was 299/399.

If I'm not mistaken, 2003 was the $99 Mario Kart bundle when I jumped in.

Edit: Nope, that was 2004. Not sure why the spike then.

It first reached $99 in 2003; thereafter it was just a shuffling of different things bundled (or nothing). November 2003 specifically there was the Zelda disc with emulated NES/N64 games, as well as some places having $79 sales on Black Friday.

I'm amazed at the amount of bitter Nintendo fanboys who got the world domination they want but are still unhappy because Nintendo doesn't get the undying loyalty and respect of every gamer for changing the world.

"Everyone is dead! How do we rule a realm with no one in it!?"

I think it's interesting that Wii Music is the first Wii game that GAF seemed to agree was going to sell like crazy, and then it sold poorly.

GAF thinking you'll do well is the kiss of death.

I disagree. Upon the reveal of Wii Fit I remember a lot of people saying it looked awful, but they expected it would be a hit. When Wii Music showed up they just said it looked awful.

I thought it would be big, since I figured making music for $50 was more appealing than working out for $90.

Considering it sold a million in the U.S., I think that's probably the case. I want to say that if you combine the different versions released in Japan, it gets most of the way to 1 million there, as well.

The original and e+ together go all the way and then some; but not by much.

That reminds me, where is JoshuaJSlone?

Late to the party. Long-winded upon arrival.

 

[solid2snake]

That would take a 2% increase over last year. Considering every month other than January (which was down) has been up at least 12%, I'd say that's a pretty sure thing.

so, December NPD:

DS - 1,8 mio
Wii - 1,5 mio
360 - 700k
PSP - 300k
PS2 - 280k
PS3 - 250k


?

 

[Haunted]

I guess we never found out how Castlevania did, did we?

Wasn't it something like 66k in the Nintendo NPD response press?

Yep. Nintendo internal numbers vs NPD numbers.

 

[Brakara]

Are my consoles malfunctioning? Powering them up never seems to turn on this "anti-dust" ability that some people's seem to have.

He said "just gathers dust" as opposed to (I guess) "gathers dust and being used". Coincidentally, my Wii has also (this year) just been gathering dust.

 

[Haunted]

He said "just gathers dust" as opposed to (I guess) "gathers dust and being used". Coincidentally, my Wii has also (this year) just been gathering dust.

Don't blame us for not playing one of Nintendo's best games this generation!

 

[jakncoke]

so, December NPD:

DS - 1,8 mio
Wii - 1,5 mio
360 - 700k
PSP - 300k
PS2 - 280k
PS3 - 250k


?

Is that your Dec 2008 prediction? out of all the consoles wasn't PS3 last in 2007 with like 650k?

 

[solid2snake]

Is that your Dec 2008 prediction? out of all the consoles wasn't PS3 last in 2007 with like 650k?

i can't see the PS3 over 400k in december. why should it, cause of LBP?

 

[Kill Your Masters]

so, December NPD:

DS - 1,8 mio
Wii - 1,5 mio
360 - 700k
PSP - 300k
PS2 - 280k
PS3 - 250k


?

PS3 surely won't do that bad, not in the Christmas season.

 

[DarkMehm]

i can't see the PS3 over 400k in december. why should it, cause of LBP?

You are greatly underestimating december. sales will be huge.

 

[jakncoke]

i can't see the PS3 over 400k in december. why should it, cause of LBP?

Just looked, last Dec the PS3 did nearly 800k...I can't see it falling off that much even with economy in the shits.

Here is Dec 2007 thread

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=229157

 

[Brakara]

Don't blame us for not playing one of Nintendo's best games this generation!

What, SSBB? I'm not into fighters. If it's something else, then please enlighten me. Because I'm looking at what Nintendo has released this year (Mario Kart, Wii Fit, etc.) and there's absolutely nothing for me there.

I am looking forward to Sega's Madworld though.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

What, SSBB? I'm not into fighters. If it's something else, then please enlighten me. Because I'm looking at what Nintendo has released this year (Mario Kart, Wii Fit, etc.) and there's absolutely nothing for me there.

I am looking forward to Sega's Madworld though.

He's talking about Monster Lab, I think. It's his new crush.

Wait, he said "Nintendo's game". Hmm. No idea then.

 

[Pureauthor]

He's talking about Monster Lab, I think. It's his new crush.

Crush? Crushed?! Where's Crushed?

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

i can't see the PS3 over 400k in december. why should it, cause of LBP?

Until this post I really thought you had meant to type "November". Even GameCube didn't have a December of less than 500K until Wii was out.

 

[Archie]

Don't blame us for not playing one of Nintendo's best games this generation!

You can only play Mario Galaxy so many times. Ironically, I was playing Banjo Kazooie on XBLA yesterday and was wishing I was playing Galaxy instead. Game is so good and the only reason I regret selling my Wii.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

Crush? Crushed?! Where's Crushed?

I tore him in half with my bare hands and fed on his essence. The parts I deemed unworthy of consumption were left in a dumpster where they were found by Mama Robotnik.

 

[Haunted]

What, SSBB? I'm not into fighters. If it's something else, then please enlighten me. Because I'm looking at what Nintendo has released this year (Mario Kart, Wii Fit, etc.) and there's absolutely nothing for me there.

I am looking forward to Sega's Madworld though.

Yeah, SSBB. I'm sorry, I loved it. I guess the next best thing were MKWii and Wario Land.

And looking at my purchases this year, 3rd parties win 2008 on Wii, hands down.

You can only play Mario Galaxy so many times. Ironically, I was playing Banjo Kazooie on XBLA yesterday and was wishing I was playing Galaxy instead. Game is so good and the only reason I regret selling my Wii.

It's true.

He's talking about Monster Lab, I think. It's his new crush.

Wait, he said "Nintendo's game". Hmm. No idea then.

<3 But there you go talking about Crush again.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

you guys didn't BUY CRUSH, FUCKERS

and that's why I pray for all of your favourite games to fail.

 

[Haunted]

you guys didn't BUY CRUSH, FUCKERS

and that's why I pray for all of your favourite games to fail.

But not Monster Lab.

 

[Archie]

you guys didn't BUY CRUSH, FUCKERS

and that's why I pray for all of your favourite games to fail.

Look at it this way. It probably sold better than Rock Revolution on the Wii.

 

[Amir0x]

I totally purchased Crush, Segata! Hold me!

 

[Pureauthor]

You paid USD 40 for Brave Story?

 

[Amir0x]

that was back when one of you fucking GAFers said it was totally a good RPG for the PSP.

Oh, I had it out with that motherfucker!

 

[Linkified]

So we should expect LittleBigPlanet to do better in the November NPDs. But do we expect the actual console sales of the PS3 to actual increase to more than they would this month.

If it doesn't increase PS3 sales in US which is game will be the system seller for it so that ps3 sales are approachable to that of the 360s.

I can't think of any exclusive really to turn the tide now apart from LBP where are all Sony's family games hiding.

 

[Pureauthor]

Do we really expect LBP to do better in November?

Fact 1: It's on the PS3. The (smaller) userbase has a proportionally higher number of 'core' gamers to it than, say, the X360 or the Wii.

Fact 2: Hardcore gamers are more likely to buy a game closer to the release date.

Fact 3: LBP's appeal to the casual gamer is currently unknown. (For clarity, I refer to 'casual' here in the same sense as the market that drove Madden and GTA to become multimillion sellers)

Given all of this, I feel safe in assuming that it will in fact do worse in November.

 

[lowlylowlycook]

Has any PS3 game charted 2 months in a row?

 

[farnham]

I totally purchased Crush, Segata! Hold me!

i purchased crush

for 5 euros (no joke)

Anyone notice, Nintendo now has 3 first month bombs in a row, Mario Sluggers - Wario Shake - Wii Music.

sluggers and wario land were not marketed as heavily as wii music though

im confident that all those games will have a decent end result though

 

[Johann]

Has any PS3 game charted 2 months in a row?

GTA4 for PS3 made it on for two months.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

Hardware sales for the PS3 this holiday will be solid, if unspectacular. I still think it has yet to receive the system seller, but the library of third and first party games is very good.

Personally I think Little Big Planet sales will drop in November, for several reasons:

1. It have been released into a schedule of established franchises that typically see strong sales in the holiday period.
2. Despite the appeal (certainly from a design aspect) the game does not immediately sell itself, that will come from the community built upon it.
3. The platform. This has been overstated already, but the price of hardware is huge a barrier to entry.

I would state that there are other titles that face the same problem (with the exception of #3); Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts being the obvious one.

 

[Linkified]

So does this mean the killer game for the PS3 will be KillZone 2 even after the first game on the PS2 put a negative impression of it as a franchise to many people.

If thats not it I can't think of any software that could change the PS3s chances, unless its a slow seller what with Blu Ray.

 

[solid2snake]

Has any PS3 game charted 2 months in a row?

MGS4 and Uncharted?

 

[Johnkers]

Hardware sales for the PS3 this holiday will be solid, if unspectacular. I still think it has yet to receive the system seller, but the library of third and first party games is very good.

Was MGS4 not the system seller? I don't see anything in the future even close to as big as that?

 

[Kill Your Masters]

MGS4 and Uncharted?

Uncharted never charted in the US top 10, unfortunately.

 

[Pureauthor]

I hate the term 'system seller' insofar that it's supposed to mean 'will reverse an ailing system's fortunes'.

It just doesn't happen.

 

[overthehill99]

Uncharted never charted in the US top 10, unfortunately.

Really? That is really a sin to the gaming Gods.

 

[Amir0x]

I hate the term 'system seller' insofar that it's supposed to mean 'will reverse an ailing system's fortunes'.

It just doesn't happen.

Do we know if DS would have exploded with its, eh, Nintendogs?

i guess that would never classify as a truly 'ailing' system though, just not explosive