Support NeoGAF

[Wollan]

Okay. Updated the system, downloading a handful of items. Played some Resistance. Accounts up and running. Messed around with menus. Downloading Folding@Home atm.

This is the slickest f*cking experience ever. Aaaah, it's sooo smooth. Everything is so smooth.
Ahhh someone touch me now!

 

[hauton]

*touches*

Ugh.

Anyways, I'm just here to ask - is there any real gauge on the sales right now aside from hater propoganda (*waves hi to UKResistance*) and optimistic retailers?

Because over at the boards I hail from, it's a shitstorm right now of "LOL SONY AM FAILURE TOTAL".

 

[DefectiveReject]

Okay. Updated the system, downloading a handful of items. Played some Resistance. Accounts up and running. Messed around with menus. Downloading Folding@Home atm.

This is the slickest f*cking experience ever. Aaaah, it's sooo smooth. Everything is so smooth.
Ahhh someone touch me now!

i don't want to touch you except with an open handed slap across the face for getting your PS3 already!!

 

[iapetus]

Anyways, I'm just here to ask - is there any real gauge on the sales right now aside from hater propoganda (*waves hi to UKResistance*) and optimistic retailers?

Of course not. By Monday there will be, of course. We'll have hideously warped figures in a Sony press release about how this is the bestest console launch ever.

Haven't you seen a console launch before?

 

[Danj]

My local Gamestation (Peterlee) is doing a midnight opening. I was quite surprised, I can understand big cities like Newcastle or Durham having midnight openings, but a small(er) town like Peterlee seems unusual for something like that.

 

[hauton]

Of course not. By Monday there will be, of course. We'll have hideously warped figures in a Sony press release about how this is the bestest console launch ever.

Haven't you seen a console launch before?

Well I'm mainly talking about real pre-order numbers. I mean a sign saying "72 remaining" at a store from UKResistance means absolutely nothing.

72 Remaining out of 2385729384792837491823 is a pretty nice launch.
72 Remaining out of 72 is a pretty bad launch.

Not to mention it's just one store.

 

[mrklaw]

*touches*

Ugh.

Anyways, I'm just here to ask - is there any real gauge on the sales right now aside from hater propoganda (*waves hi to UKResistance*) and optimistic retailers?

Because over at the boards I hail from, it's a shitstorm right now of "LOL SONY AM FAILURE TOTAL".

of course it is - plentiful supply = desparate retailers and apathetic consumers. Apparantly.

Seems that Sony upped the volumes recently to 300k for the UK. I expect they are aiming for a nice round 250k sold opening weekend headline in MCV. I think they could well do it too

 

[DrXym]

Well I'm mainly talking about real pre-order numbers. I mean a sign saying "72 remaining" at a store from UKResistance means absolutely nothing.

72 Remaining out of 2385729384792837491823 is a pretty nice launch.
72 Remaining out of 72 is a pretty bad launch.

Not to mention it's just one store.

I was 181 on the list for my local store. I reckon that figure must be over 200 by now. This for a local branch of a toyshop chain. Were there any stores in the US which had that many PS3s?

 

[spwolf]

I was 181 on the list for my local store. I reckon that figure must be over 200 by now. This for a local branch of a toyshop chain. Were there any stores in the US which had that many PS3s?

only 181? wow... Sony going down.

:lol

 

[iapetus]

Seems that Sony upped the volumes recently to 300k for the UK.

Bear in mind that this is a comparable number of consoles just for the UK (population 60m) to those available at the Xbox 360 launch in the US (population 300m). It's about six times the number of Wiis that were available at launch in the UK. If almost two thirds of them are still sitting on shelves on Monday, it will still break the record for most sales in a UK launch weekend.

 

[buckfutter]

Any idea why the system update software isn't available in Australia yet? The website claims it was supposed to go up on Thursday, but the PS3 is saying I have the latest firmware and the download link at the official site is "coming soon".

 

[123rl]

I can't believe how many machines are available! Preorders went really well (better than both 360 and Wii at my shop) but the sheer number of machines available makes it seem like nobody cares about it.

We got 80 machines at our shop - 80! And that's for a popular games shop in a very small town in between Wigan and Manchester (a huge city and one of the biggest towns in North West England). That's more than the amount of Wii consoles we've had since the launch in December!:lol

Sony have done an incredible job with supply here but I guess that's what happens when the machine gets delayed 5 months

 

[Fess]

Could someone of you lucky people that already have the console check if PAL games can run in 60hz on a PAL PS3 in both SD and HD resolutions?

 

[Apocryphon]

Speaking of Manchester...

...i'm picking my console up from the Trafford Centre at midnight (7 hours from now) and i know that the 2 GAME (EB) stores have a combined pre-order total of 600-odd units. Then there's HMV and Virgin Megastore so that one shopping centre will see 1000+ units on day one.

The only shortages will be things like additional pads, cables and software.

EDIT: that's 1000+ units PRE-ORDERED, and they're still taking pre-orders so the actual received number will be higher.

 

[MeowthMan]

So says Angry Gamer:

http://www.angry-gamer.net/ag/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=450&Itemid=2

Angry Gamer's roving reporters drank a heap of chocolate milk, grabbed a camera and checked out the alleged hotspots of PS3 midnight launch activity in Australia. Here's what we saw. The short version? The worst launch since the Challenger space craft.

At EB Games in the middle of the city they set up this huge corridor for people to line up. EXCEPT NOBODY CAME TO FILL UP THE LINE. No less than four security guards were hired to keep the NONEXISTANT crowd in line. Two of them left shortly after midnight. They were nice enough guys, but they wouldn't let us take photos, so we snuck this one in.

Anyway, we had a chat to some of the staff in that EB and they said they shifted a handful of machines, but not as many as the Toombul store, which apparently sold a whopping 20. We went to another EB Games and saw this. a handful of random people who were just there to kill some time because most stores are shut at this time of night and they ran out of money to drink at the nearby pubs. I've been to funerals that were more exciting than this. It really is the worst hardware launch the country has ever seen. Not even a few months ago these places were packed - Japanese trains at lunch hour packed - with people clamoring to buy a Wii. And now look at this.

One of the biggest PS3 retailers, Harvey Norman, have been blitzing television and radio ads over the past week about their midnight PS3 launch. Well, it looks like it went over so badly that they closed up shop early. Oops!

We then hit one more EB to see how it all went. Once again, it was a ghost town, but the manager was very proud of the fact that 33 pre-ordered machines were picked up. He wasn't so proud that he still had 50 un-ordered ones in the back room.

So Sony apparently brought 20,000 machines into the country. So if Brisbane sold just over 50, let's say Sydney and Melbourne did 200 each to be generous. Throw in some extras for the other capital cities and we'll call it 500 machines on launch night. Oh all right, let's be really generous and call it a thousand.

1,000 out of 20,000.

ABSOLUTELY UNIMITIGATED DISASTER.

SONY BE PRAISED!!!!

 

[spwolf]

Speaking of Manchester...

...i'm picking my console up from the Trafford Centre at midnight (7 hours from now) and i know that the 2 GAME (EB) stores have a combined pre-order total of 600-odd units. Then there's HMV and Virgin Megastore so that one shopping centre will see 1000+ units on day one.

The only shortages will be things like additional pads, cables and software.

EDIT: that's 1000+ units PRE-ORDERED, and they're still taking pre-orders so the actual received number will be higher.

obviously you are lying since nobody wants PS3

:lol :lol

 

[E-phonk]

Went to a shopping mall today, where i saw at least 12 PS3's for sale (amongst the different stores).

 

[DenogginizerOS]

Are there other retailers in Australia that are selling PS3's that aren't discussed in the report from angry gamer above?

 

[Forsete]

So says Angry Gamer:


SONY BE PRAISED!!!!

Puh, I was worried there.. Thanks, finally a DOOM post.

I got the latest update from Sweden. Huge disaster for Ps3.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e298/Forsete/gamestockholm2copy.jpg

 

[spwolf]

Went to a shopping mall today, where i saw at least 12 PS3's for sale (amongst the different stores).

is that good or bad? did you expect 100 or 0?

 

[spwolf]

Are there other retailers in Australia that are selling PS3's that aren't discussed in the report from angry gamer above?

nope

 

[iapetus]

Damn it! Majik's made-up (sorry, extrapolated) numbers conflict wildly with Angry Gamer's made-up (sorry, extrapolated) numbers! Who to believe?

 

[Forsete]

Damn it! Majik's made-up (sorry, extrapolated) numbers conflict wildly with Angry Gamer's made-up (sorry, extrapolated) numbers! Who to believe?

The one with the PICS! Pics dont lie my friend. Oh, attitude. Attitude does not lie either. Angry gamer.. Raaar!

 

[supermackem]

My local Gamestation (Peterlee) is doing a midnight opening. I was quite surprised, I can understand big cities like Newcastle or Durham having midnight openings, but a small(er) town like Peterlee seems unusual for something like that.

hehehe can people from peterlee afford a ps3 like. Only jokeing fella.

 

[Apocryphon]

Damn it! Majik's made-up (sorry, extrapolated) numbers conflict wildly with Angry Gamer's made-up (sorry, extrapolated) numbers! Who to believe?

What does Australia have to do with Manchester, England!?

 

[spwolf]

What does Australia have to do with Manchester, England!?

we are joking dude...

 

[mrklaw]

I can't believe how many machines are available! Preorders went really well (better than both 360 and Wii at my shop) but the sheer number of machines available makes it seem like nobody cares about it.

AAAAARRGGH!!!!!

So so so annoying. Not specifically pointing you out 123rl, just these kinds of comments all over. People connecting two unrelated things into a sentence, suddenly making them connected.


As for the Australian launch - god forbid people aren't being told its first come first served with limited supply like in the US, so perhaps they are asleep and will pick their machines up during the day?

Its almost like the gaming news sites are enjoying this invented pain for Sony. Whatever happened to news reporting rather than news inventing?

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Whatever happened to news reporting rather than news inventing?

I don't understand what you're saying. A-G directly compared the same space and scenario to the Wii launch. That seems like reporting and not inventing to me.

 

[painey]

australia is small fry when it comes to gaming but it has been getting bigger and bigger with each launch, the high price is obviously cutting into a niche which would mean small sales. Anyways im off to watch 300 later and if I get the chance i will swing by GAME or Virgin and see if they are doing an opening or anything

 

[iapetus]

I don't understand what you're saying. A-G directly compared the same space and scenario to the Wii launch. That seems like reporting and not inventing to me.

I think his point is that all things are not alike for the two launches, so treating them as if they are counts as 'inventing' news. PS3 has enough supply that you can stroll in in the afternoon on your way home from work on launch day and pick up a console. With Wii, Nintendo shipped seven units for the whole of Australia, so obviously there was a bit more panic.

Or something like that.

 

[E-phonk]

is that good or bad? did you expect 100 or 0?

Well, on one side there was a lot of advertisement, so I guess that's good, but I asked few times if there were consoles available and there were (some selling allready, other said I could come pick it up tomorrow if I wanted one).

In one place they sold it as a blu-ray player, with only movies advertised next to it and no games.

 

[Hammerhai]

man spricht schon vom Desaster für Sony bzgl. des EU/AU-Starts

http://www.angry-gamer.net/ag/index....450&Item id=2

Zitat:
Angry Gamer's roving reporters drank a heap of chocolate milk, grabbed a camera and checked out the alleged hotspots of PS3 midnight launch activity in Australia. Here's what we saw. The short version? The worst launch since the Challenger space craft.


Zitat:
At EB Games in the middle of the city they set up this huge corridor for people to line up. EXCEPT NOBODY CAME TO FILL UP THE LINE. No less than four security guards were hired to keep the NONEXISTANT crowd in line. Two of them left shortly after midnight. They were nice enough guys, but they wouldn't let us take photos, so we snuck this one in.


Zitat:
Anyway, we had a chat to some of the staff in that EB and they said they shifted a handful of machines, but not as many as the Toombul store, which apparently sold a whopping 20. We went to another EB Games and saw this. a handful of random people who were just there to kill some time because most stores are shut at this time of night and they ran out of money to drink at the nearby pubs. I've been to funerals that were more exciting than this. It really is the worst hardware launch the country has ever seen. Not even a few months ago these places were packed - Japanese trains at lunch hour packed - with people clamoring to buy a Wii. And now look at this.


Zitat:
One of the biggest PS3 retailers, Harvey Norman, have been blitzing television and radio ads over the past week about their midnight PS3 launch. Well, it looks like it went over so badly that they closed up shop early. Oops!

We then hit one more EB to see how it all went. Once again, it was a ghost town, but the manager was very proud of the fact that 33 pre-ordered machines were picked up. He wasn't so proud that he still had 50 un-ordered ones in the back room.

So Sony apparently brought 20,000 machines into the country. So if Brisbane sold just over 50, let's say Sydney and Melbourne did 200 each to be generous. Throw in some extras for the other capital cities and we'll call it 500 machines on launch night. Oh all right, let's be really generous and call it a thousand.

1,000 out of 20,000.

ABSOLUTELY UNIMITIGATED DISASTER.
In Schweden scheints auch übel zu laufen (gibt schon Scherzbilder dazu)


Ausserdem kam wohl jetzt raus dass die EU-PS3 nur in 50Hz auf nicht HD-Geräten läuft, auf HD-Geräten gibt es PAL60

 

[captive]

I was 181 on the list for my local store. I reckon that figure must be over 200 by now. This for a local branch of a toyshop chain. Were there any stores in the US which had that many PS3s?

I was 4th out of 16 people... who got cut down to like 8 or 10 because of the cutback in hardware. :-/

Congrats to our PAL brothers though.

 

[Midas]

man spricht schon vom Desaster für Sony bzgl. des EU/AU-Starts

http://www.angry-gamer.net/ag/index....450&Item id=2

Zitat:
Angry Gamer's roving reporters drank a heap of chocolate milk, grabbed a camera and checked out the alleged hotspots of PS3 midnight launch activity in Australia. Here's what we saw. The short version? The worst launch since the Challenger space craft.


Zitat:
At EB Games in the middle of the city they set up this huge corridor for people to line up. EXCEPT NOBODY CAME TO FILL UP THE LINE. No less than four security guards were hired to keep the NONEXISTANT crowd in line. Two of them left shortly after midnight. They were nice enough guys, but they wouldn't let us take photos, so we snuck this one in.


Zitat:
Anyway, we had a chat to some of the staff in that EB and they said they shifted a handful of machines, but not as many as the Toombul store, which apparently sold a whopping 20. We went to another EB Games and saw this. a handful of random people who were just there to kill some time because most stores are shut at this time of night and they ran out of money to drink at the nearby pubs. I've been to funerals that were more exciting than this. It really is the worst hardware launch the country has ever seen. Not even a few months ago these places were packed - Japanese trains at lunch hour packed - with people clamoring to buy a Wii. And now look at this.


Zitat:
One of the biggest PS3 retailers, Harvey Norman, have been blitzing television and radio ads over the past week about their midnight PS3 launch. Well, it looks like it went over so badly that they closed up shop early. Oops!

We then hit one more EB to see how it all went. Once again, it was a ghost town, but the manager was very proud of the fact that 33 pre-ordered machines were picked up. He wasn't so proud that he still had 50 un-ordered ones in the back room.

So Sony apparently brought 20,000 machines into the country. So if Brisbane sold just over 50, let's say Sydney and Melbourne did 200 each to be generous. Throw in some extras for the other capital cities and we'll call it 500 machines on launch night. Oh all right, let's be really generous and call it a thousand.

1,000 out of 20,000.

ABSOLUTELY UNIMITIGATED DISASTER.
In Schweden scheints auch übel zu laufen (gibt schon Scherzbilder dazu)


Ausserdem kam wohl jetzt raus dass die EU-PS3 nur in 50Hz auf nicht HD-Geräten läuft, auf HD-Geräten gibt es PAL60

WTF?!

 

[iapetus]

WTF?!

He's reposting news that was posted in this very thread (on this very page), only not as well as it was posted the first time. And adding some sort of commentary in what appears to be German.

It's perfectly straightforward.

 

[Hammerhai]

http://www.angry-gamer.net

 

[Lince]

Could someone of you lucky people that already have the console check if PAL games can run in 60hz on a PAL PS3 in both SD and HD resolutions?

60hz in HD resolutions (at least in both 720p and 1080i)
don't know about SD yet

 

[Dazzla]

Is it just me or is fl0w missing off of the UK store?

 

[nelsonroyale]

Ive honestly never seen a que for games before

peace

 

[Apocryphon]

So the EU PS3 doesn't support 60Hz for anything lower than 720p then!?

Wouldn't that make that Heavenly Sword "dev" a liar then?

 

[Mmmkay]

Is it just me or is fl0w missing off of the UK store?

I was under the impression that we knew for ages that it would be the week after launch.

[edit]Oh the info is in the OP, looks like it got pushed back to the 6th of April.

 

[Dave1988]

Ausserdem kam wohl jetzt raus dass die EU-PS3 nur in 50Hz auf nicht HD-Geräten läuft, auf HD-Geräten gibt es PAL60

Oh f*** NO!

 

[Dave1988]

So the EU PS3 doesn't support 60Hz for anything lower than 720p then!?

Wouldn't that make that Heavenly Sword "dev" a liar then?

You didn't get the "We don't care about Europe" note from Sony?

 

[marwan]

Is it just me or is fl0w missing off of the UK store?

save your money, it's garbage!



edit: i've always played my games in 60hz since i only own U.S systems. what's the difference in image quality between 50 and 60hz?

 

[elostyle]

man spricht schon vom Desaster für Sony bzgl. des EU/AU-Starts

http://www.angry-gamer.net/ag/index....450&Item id=2

Zitat:
Angry Gamer's roving reporters drank a heap of chocolate milk, grabbed a camera and checked out the alleged hotspots of PS3 midnight launch activity in Australia. Here's what we saw. The short version? The worst launch since the Challenger space craft.


Zitat:
At EB Games in the middle of the city they set up this huge corridor for people to line up. EXCEPT NOBODY CAME TO FILL UP THE LINE. No less than four security guards were hired to keep the NONEXISTANT crowd in line. Two of them left shortly after midnight. They were nice enough guys, but they wouldn't let us take photos, so we snuck this one in.


Zitat:
Anyway, we had a chat to some of the staff in that EB and they said they shifted a handful of machines, but not as many as the Toombul store, which apparently sold a whopping 20. We went to another EB Games and saw this. a handful of random people who were just there to kill some time because most stores are shut at this time of night and they ran out of money to drink at the nearby pubs. I've been to funerals that were more exciting than this. It really is the worst hardware launch the country has ever seen. Not even a few months ago these places were packed - Japanese trains at lunch hour packed - with people clamoring to buy a Wii. And now look at this.


Zitat:
One of the biggest PS3 retailers, Harvey Norman, have been blitzing television and radio ads over the past week about their midnight PS3 launch. Well, it looks like it went over so badly that they closed up shop early. Oops!

We then hit one more EB to see how it all went. Once again, it was a ghost town, but the manager was very proud of the fact that 33 pre-ordered machines were picked up. He wasn't so proud that he still had 50 un-ordered ones in the back room.

So Sony apparently brought 20,000 machines into the country. So if Brisbane sold just over 50, let's say Sydney and Melbourne did 200 each to be generous. Throw in some extras for the other capital cities and we'll call it 500 machines on launch night. Oh all right, let's be really generous and call it a thousand.

1,000 out of 20,000.

ABSOLUTELY UNIMITIGATED DISASTER.
In Schweden scheints auch übel zu laufen (gibt schon Scherzbilder dazu)


Ausserdem kam wohl jetzt raus dass die EU-PS3 nur in 50Hz auf nicht HD-Geräten läuft, auf HD-Geräten gibt es PAL60

Why are you posting a german translation of the angry gamer article posted
above of all things?

EDIT: wait, what?

 

[Apocryphon]

You didn't get the "We don't care about Europe" note from Sony?

I have a HDTV but some of my friends don't. 80% of PS2 games and almost every Xbox game supported PAL60 though. If PS3 doesn't support PAL60 for SD resolutions then that's just retarded because who has PAL50-only TV's now!? Nobody!

edit: i've always played my games in 60hz since i only own U.S systems. what's the difference in image quality between 50 and 60hz?

Noticeable flicker.

 

[xaosslug]

He's reposting news that was posted in this very thread (on this very page), only not as well as it was posted the first time. And adding some sort of commentary in what appears to be German.

It's perfectly straightforward.

:lol

 

[Fess]

60hz in HD resolutions (at least in both 720p and 1080i)
don't know about SD yet

Thanks! If it's not too much of a hassle then could you please check with the composite cable if 60hz is available in SD? In Motorstorm for exampel, if you have that game, or Ridge Racer 7.

I'm trying to decide if I'm going to import the games from the US or buy them at the store tomorrow.

 

[mrklaw]

I think his point is that all things are not alike for the two launches, so treating them as if they are counts as 'inventing' news. PS3 has enough supply that you can stroll in in the afternoon on your way home from work on launch day and pick up a console. With Wii, Nintendo shipped seven units for the whole of Australia, so obviously there was a bit more panic.

Or something like that.

pretty much

add in the general preorder approach outside of the US/Japan and you make queues pretty pointless in general. At least in the UK (so not Australia as quoted in the article) I've hardly ever seen queues for hardware launches, other than about 5 people lining up at 8.30am which doesn't really count when you get that many grannies queueing up for WHSmith to open.

All this oxford street nonsense is just contrived by the console PR and chains to generate publicity. Doesn't really pan out across the country like that.

 

[nli10]

Went in GameStation Birmingham (Europes Largest Game Store) at 5:30pm today after work - total queue for PS3?

1 guy. Staff said he'd been there since 1:30 - wonder if he's a Sony plant?

World of warcraft Burning Crusade launch had a larger queue...

pretty much

add in the general preorder approach outside of the US/Japan and you make queues pretty pointless in general. At least in the UK (so not Australia as quoted in the article) I've hardly ever seen queues for hardware launches, other than about 5 people lining up at 8.30am which doesn't really count when you get that many grannies queueing up for WHSmith to open.

All this oxford street nonsense is just contrived by the console PR and chains to generate publicity. Doesn't really pan out across the country like that.

Wii launch had around 20 people after work, and then 100s when I went back at 11:30pm. No doubt the actual midnight launch will be fairly big, but I don't think they were expecting crowds.