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okay, what the fuck is with this "going to university" shit?

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demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
What ever happened to "I go to college"? I've never in real life heard anyone say "I go to university", but I always see people say it on the internet. Is it a Canadian/Euro thing or what? In fact I remember an italian tutor mentioning it, wondering why I said I go to "college" instead of "university". So is it a european thing or something? I'm sick of seeing people say that shit! YOU GO TO COLLEGE, FUCKERS.
 

Dyne

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There's a HUGE difference in Asia. College and University mean the difference between stupid and smart.

I say University all the time in real life. (Canadian.)
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
Star Power said:
It's a European thing... calm down... take a valium...
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Dyne said:
There's a HUGE difference in Asia. College and University mean the difference between smart and stupid.

I say University all the time in real life. (Canadian.)
Which one is 'stupid' and which one is 'smart'? Is it like the difference between community/junior college and regular college in the states?
 

neptunes

Member
It's a canadian thing,

we often refer to community colleges as just college, and University with University.

Which one is 'stupid' and which one is 'smart'? Is it like the difference between community/junior college and regular college in the states?

yes
 

Datawhore

on the 15th floor
It's an American thing to say, "Going to college."

In most other countries, if you say, "I'm going to college," it means you're attending a small, usually technical or trade school, with low entry requirements.
 

robox

Member
i never understood why people (americans) say they go to college. all the big schools are universities and colleges are the local campus that people go to because they couldn't get into university. what was so proud about going to college? that's been my view
 
demon said:
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Which one is 'stupid' and which one is 'smart'? Is it like the difference between community/junior college and regular college in the states?

I don't find university students (not top tier, but not diploma mill either) particularly intelligent. IMHO, they cram and party more than community college students. Perhaps it's the larger number of people going back for a new education or people trying to finish grad school prereqs, but I generally have a higher opinion of community college students.
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
r - b - x said:
i never understood why people (americans) say they go to college. all the big schools are universities and colleges are the local campus that people go to because they couldn't get into university. what was so proud about going to college? that's been my view

We basically combine the terms. University and College means the same thing to most Americans. We call the local places Community College.
 
off topic i guess

A guy who dropped out of college many years ago because he couldn't afford it, recently donated 100 million USD to his old school. The college promised to give the money to students from low income homes so they won't be sucked into the buttomless pit of student loans.


Btw he made all that money selling alcohol


The world is still full of good people :)
 
Yes, I do go to a university (University of Texas), but I still say I go to college. In common speech college and university are interchangable in the US, but if you are talking formally, there is a giant difference between the two. Universities usually have different giant academic units called colleges or schools (like College of Natural Science, or School of Business), while colleges are in a strip mall. I have no idea why this only occurs here, but so do a lot of other things.
 

Fatghost

Gas Guzzler
demon said:
What ever happened to "I go to college"? I've never in real life heard anyone say "I go to university", but I always see people say it on the internet. Is it a Canadian/Euro thing or what? In fact I remember an italian tutor mentioning it, wondering why I said I go to "college" instead of "university". So is it a european thing or something? I'm sick of seeing people say that shit! YOU GO TO COLLEGE, FUCKERS.


In Canada, College is inferior to University. Colleges typically give 6 months to 24 month programs, while Universities are the institutions which grant Bachelors degress and Graduate degrees.

There is a very large distinction between the two types of schools here.
 

fart

Savant
norinrad21 said:
off topic i guess

A guy who dropped out of college many years ago because he couldn't afford it, recently donated 100 million USD to his old school. The college promised to give the money to students from low income homes so they won't be sucked into the buttomless pit of student loans.


Btw he made all that money selling alcohol


The world is still full of good people :)
this was brown wasn't it?
 

GDGF

Soothsayer
It's a European thing (although you know this by now)

I gotta say, though, I do tend to say it, too. It's kinda catchy.
 

Meier

Member
Fatghost28 said:
In Canada, College is inferior to University. Colleges typically give 6 months to 24 month programs, while Universities are the institutions which grant Bachelors degress and Graduate degrees.

There is a very large distinction between the two types of schools here.

Those are community colleges in America. Here at universities, there are individual "colleges" -- aka the College of Business, etc. but the phrase "going to college" and "going to university" is interchangeable. You'd say "I go to a community college" if they just offer a 2-year degree.
 

GDGF

Soothsayer
norinrad21 said:
off topic i guess

A guy who dropped out of college many years ago because he couldn't afford it, recently donated 100 million USD to his old school. The college promised to give the money to students from low income homes so they won't be sucked into the buttomless pit of student loans.


Btw he made all that money selling alcohol


The world is still full of good people :)

The Yeigermeister guy. I saw that on Conan last night :)
 

ChrisReid

Member
Stryder said:
In Australia as well, we call it 'uni' short for university :)

Yeah, a bunch of us made fun of an australian friend for saying he was "going to university."

fart said:
colleges only offer 4 year degrees. universities have postgraduate programs. durr?

Don't universities mostly award 4 year degrees though? Colleges in the smaller community college sense are known for their 2 year technical degrees and certifications I'd think.
 

GDGF

Soothsayer
To tell you the truth, I can' think of a single 'college' that offers anything beyond a 2 year degree or certificate program. We americans have just gotten used to using the wrong term, I believe :)
 

fart

Savant
the dictionary backs me up, so i'm going with college - only awards bachelor's degrees (note this would mean junior colleges and trade schools are not colleges) and a university awards both bachelor's and graduate degrees.
 

nitewulf

Member
college in asia/europe = 11 and 12 grades, then you pass higher secondary examinations and move onto "university" (or you dont and commit suicide due to social pressure), which is equivalent to college here.
its a british system.
 
Actually in the U.S there is a difference between a University and a College. A college only awards 4 years degrees, while a university offers graduate degrees as well. Also in the U.S the individual schools in a university are called colleges many times. For example: "The College of Letters and Science at UC Berkely."
 
Stryder said:
In Australia as well, we call it 'uni' short for university :)
'technical' colleges etc = TAFE

Although here every academic institution gets refered to as 'school'. So when sombody says they're going to school you don't know if its TAFE or uni ie they're smart or a dumbass. Well not really :p
 
EarthStormFire said:
Also in the U.S the individual schools in a university are called colleges many times. For example: "The College of Letters and Science at UC Berkely."

thats what I thought the difference between University and College was....a University was a collection of Colleges, and Colleges are schools of specific areas of study (ie: business, engineering, communications, ect). I didn't know that Univeristies=offer postgraduate courses.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
Quadrophenic said:
thats what I thought the difference between University and College was....a University was a collection of Colleges, and Colleges are schools of specific areas of study (ie: business, engineering, communications, ect). I didn't know that Univeristies=offer postgraduate courses.
That's kinda what I thought too. You attend a university, but more casually speaking, you "go to college".
 

SFA_AOK

Member
demon said:
Snobby europeans!

Incorrect.

In the UK, we finish secondary school ("high school") age 16. We can then go off into the world of work if we wish. You can also study for another couple of years and get A-Levels (or a more vocational qualification in some cases). This is done at college (I don't think there's an American equivalent) or sometimes a sixth form which is usually at the secondary school you attended (whereas a college is independent of a school).

Once you have A-Levels, you can then go to read for a degree at University (what you'd call college).

Plenty of other differences as well; from my experience American college students have to do a load of modules in subjects unrelated to their degree, seem's much more focused on the subject over here.
 

stonedwal

Member
In Australia as well, we call it 'uni' short for university

'technical' colleges etc = TAFE

I should add to these two points that "college" in Australia usually refers to the on campus residential accomodation (UQ has something like 7 or 8 colleges from memory). Not many people really go to the colleges here - they usually only take about 400 people, and you pay $AU300-400 a week to live in a shoebox (unless you're towards the end of a long degree or a postgrad student).
 

Mr Gump

Banned
demon said:
What ever happened to "I go to college"? I've never in real life heard anyone say "I go to university", but I always see people say it on the internet. Is it a Canadian/Euro thing or what? In fact I remember an italian tutor mentioning it, wondering why I said I go to "college" instead of "university". So is it a european thing or something? I'm sick of seeing people say that shit! YOU GO TO COLLEGE, FUCKERS.
You can tell you would be a TAFE student for sure if you were here.
 

CrunchyB

Member
Here in the Netherlands it's going to a "Universiteit", or "HBO", both can be translated as college or higher education. Some people just use "school", but that's not-done IMO.
You first take 4,5,6 years of high school at difficulty level 1,2,3 and then follow it up with MBO (trade school), HBO (higher trade school) or University, respectively.

4 years HS -> MBO
5 years HS -> HBO (Bachelor)
6 years HS -> Uni (Bachelor/Master)
 

Fatghost

Gas Guzzler
Meier said:
Those are community colleges in America. Here at universities, there are individual "colleges" -- aka the College of Business, etc. but the phrase "going to college" and "going to university" is interchangeable. You'd say "I go to a community college" if they just offer a 2-year degree.


In Canada, we use "faculty of" instead of "college of" when it comes to academic programs. Some larger universities are broken down into "Colleges" for administration purposes though. The University of Toronto is one such school.

But in Canada, we don't have "community" colleges. Just colleges.
 

KingGondo

Banned
Also, I know that almost every major University is divided into colleges, and in some places the "University" doesn't actually exist (places like Oxford and Cambridge, which are just conglomerations of separate colleges that mostly teach every subject).
 

Matlock

Banned
Meier said:
Those are community colleges in America. Here at universities, there are individual "colleges" -- aka the College of Business, etc. but the phrase "going to college" and "going to university" is interchangeable. You'd say "I go to a community college" if they just offer a 2-year degree.

Some community colleges around here are offering four year degrees nowadays.
 
I go to a college, not a university. It is called Ramapo COLLEGE of New Jersey, it offers 4-year degrees as well as a few post-graduate programs. It is a small public liberal arts school, but most people mistake it for private. It's not a school for idiots, you have to have some intelligence, and every year it gets harder to get into.
 

LakeEarth

Member
eggplant said:
I don't find university students (not top tier, but not diploma mill either) particularly intelligent. IMHO, they cram and party more than community college students. Perhaps it's the larger number of people going back for a new education or people trying to finish grad school prereqs, but I generally have a higher opinion of community college students.

It really depends on the University. It's the exact opposite where I'm from.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
LakeEarth said:
It really depends on the University. It's the exact opposite where I'm from.
Yeah. I don't know where he's from, but in the states, a "university student" is looked upon in a significantly more positive light than a "community college student". Hell, anyone who listens to Adam Carolla on Loveline should know that. :)

Mr Gump said:
You can tell you would be a TAFE student for sure if you were here.
What the hell is a TAFE? And is the University of Wisconsin, Madison the american equivalent of a TAFE school?
 

NetMapel

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In Asia, there are Elemtentary school (grade 1-6), Junior Highschool (grade 7-9), and then a huge test to get into a decent Senior Highschool (10-12). Finally, another huge test to get into a UNIVERSITY. Those who couldn't make it to a university go to a college, which is pretty degrading in a Asia. Only Americans are proud to say they go to colleges... :p Canadians say "university" !
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
Those who couldn't make it to a university go to a college, which is pretty degrading in a Asia. Only Americans are proud to say they go to colleges... :p
I think it's fairly well established in this thread now that it's just a matter of semantical differences between countries. Sorry. :p
 

NetMapel

Guilty White Male Mods Gave Me This Tag
demon said:
I think it's fairly well established in this thread now that it's just a matter of semantical differences between countries. Sorry. :p
Maybe that's why most Americans are teh stupd, har har har~~
 
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