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On the Phenomenon of Bullshit Jobs

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by David Graeber.

In the year 1930, John Maynard Keynes predicted that, by century’s end, technology would have advanced sufficiently that countries like Great Britain or the United States would have achieved a 15-hour work week. There’s every reason to believe he was right. In technological terms, we are quite capable of this. And yet it didn’t happen. Instead, technology has been marshaled, if anything, to figure out ways to make us all work more. In order to achieve this, jobs have had to be created that are, effectively, pointless. Huge swathes of people, in Europe and North America in particular, spend their entire working lives performing tasks they secretly believe do not really need to be performed. The moral and spiritual damage that comes from this situation is profound. It is a scar across our collective soul. Yet virtually no one talks about it.

Why did Keynes’ promised utopia – still being eagerly awaited in the ‘60s – never materialise? The standard line today is that he didn’t figure in the massive increase in consumerism. Given the choice between less hours and more toys and pleasures, we’ve collectively chosen the latter. This presents a nice morality tale, but even a moment’s reflection shows it can’t really be true. Yes, we have witnessed the creation of an endless variety of new jobs and industries since the ‘20s, but very few have anything to do with the production and distribution of sushi, iPhones, or fancy sneakers.

So what are these new jobs, precisely? A recent report comparing employment in the US between 1910 and 2000 gives us a clear picture (and I note, one pretty much exactly echoed in the UK). Over the course of the last century, the number of workers employed as domestic servants, in industry, and in the farm sector has collapsed dramatically. At the same time, “professional, managerial, clerical, sales, and service workers” tripled, growing “from one-quarter to three-quarters of total employment.” In other words, productive jobs have, just as predicted, been largely automated away (even if you count industrial workers globally, including the toiling masses in India and China, such workers are still not nearly so large a percentage of the world population as they used to be).

But rather than allowing a massive reduction of working hours to free the world’s population to pursue their own projects, pleasures, visions, and ideas, we have seen the ballooning not even so much of the “service” sector as of the administrative sector, up to and including the creation of whole new industries like financial services or telemarketing, or the unprecedented expansion of sectors like corporate law, academic and health administration, human resources, and public relations. And these numbers do not even reflect on all those people whose job is to provide administrative, technical, or security support for these industries, or for that matter the whole host of ancillary industries (dog-washers, all-night pizza deliverymen) that only exist because everyone else is spending so much of their time working in all the other ones.

These are what I propose to call “bullshit jobs.”

It’s as if someone were out there making up pointless jobs just for the sake of keeping us all working. And here, precisely, lies the mystery. In capitalism, this is precisely what is not supposed to happen. Sure, in the old inefficient socialist states like the Soviet Union, where employment was considered both a right and a sacred duty, the system made up as many jobs as they had to (this is why in Soviet department stores it took three clerks to sell a piece of meat). But, of course, this is the very sort of problem market competition is supposed to fix. According to economic theory, at least, the last thing a profit-seeking firm is going to do is shell out money to workers they don’t really need to employ. Still, somehow, it happens.

While corporations may engage in ruthless downsizing, the layoffs and speed-ups invariably fall on that class of people who are actually making, moving, fixing and maintaining things; through some strange alchemy no one can quite explain, the number of salaried paper-pushers ultimately seems to expand, and more and more employees find themselves, not unlike Soviet workers actually, working 40 or even 50 hour weeks on paper, but effectively working 15 hours just as Keynes predicted, since the rest of their time is spent organising or attending motivational seminars, updating their facebook profiles or downloading TV box-sets.

The answer clearly isn’t economic: it’s moral and political. The ruling class has figured out that a happy and productive population with free time on their hands is a mortal danger (think of what started to happen when this even began to be approximated in the ‘60s). And, on the other hand, the feeling that work is a moral value in itself, and that anyone not willing to submit themselves to some kind of intense work discipline for most of their waking hours deserves nothing, is extraordinarily convenient for them.

Once, when contemplating the apparently endless growth of administrative responsibilities in British academic departments, I came up with one possible vision of hell. Hell is a collection of individuals who are spending the bulk of their time working on a task they don’t like and are not especially good at. Say they were hired because they were excellent cabinet-makers, and then discover they are expected to spend a great deal of their time frying fish. Neither does the task really need to be done – at least, there’s only a very limited number of fish that need to be fried. Yet somehow, they all become so obsessed with resentment at the thought that some of their co-workers might be spending more time making cabinets, and not doing their fair share of the fish-frying responsibilities, that before long there’s endless piles of useless badly cooked fish piling up all over the workshop and it’s all that anyone really does.

I think this is actually a pretty accurate description of the moral dynamics of our own economy.

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Now, I realise any such argument is going to run into immediate objections: “who are you to say what jobs are really ‘necessary’? What’s necessary anyway? You’re an anthropology professor, what’s the ‘need’ for that?” (And indeed a lot of tabloid readers would take the existence of my job as the very definition of wasteful social expenditure.) And on one level, this is obviously true. There can be no objective measure of social value.

I would not presume to tell someone who is convinced they are making a meaningful contribution to the world that, really, they are not. But what about those people who are themselves convinced their jobs are meaningless? Not long ago I got back in touch with a school friend who I hadn’t seen since I was 12. I was amazed to discover that in the interim, he had become first a poet, then the front man in an indie rock band. I’d heard some of his songs on the radio having no idea the singer was someone I actually knew. He was obviously brilliant, innovative, and his work had unquestionably brightened and improved the lives of people all over the world. Yet, after a couple of unsuccessful albums, he’d lost his contract, and plagued with debts and a newborn daughter, ended up, as he put it, “taking the default choice of so many directionless folk: law school.” Now he’s a corporate lawyer working in a prominent New York firm. He was the first to admit that his job was utterly meaningless, contributed nothing to the world, and, in his own estimation, should not really exist.

There’s a lot of questions one could ask here, starting with, what does it say about our society that it seems to generate an extremely limited demand for talented poet-musicians, but an apparently infinite demand for specialists in corporate law? (Answer: if 1% of the population controls most of the disposable wealth, what we call “the market” reflects what they think is useful or important, not anybody else.) But even more, it shows that most people in these jobs are ultimately aware of it. In fact, I’m not sure I’ve ever met a corporate lawyer who didn’t think their job was bullshit. The same goes for almost all the new industries outlined above. There is a whole class of salaried professionals that, should you meet them at parties and admit that you do something that might be considered interesting (an anthropologist, for example), will want to avoid even discussing their line of work entirely. Give them a few drinks, and they will launch into tirades about how pointless and stupid their job really is.

This is a profound psychological violence here. How can one even begin to speak of dignity in labour when one secretly feels one’s job should not exist? How can it not create a sense of deep rage and resentment. Yet it is the peculiar genius of our society that its rulers have figured out a way, as in the case of the fish-fryers, to ensure that rage is directed precisely against those who actually do get to do meaningful work. For instance: in our society, there seems a general rule that, the more obviously one’s work benefits other people, the less one is likely to be paid for it. Again, an objective measure is hard to find, but one easy way to get a sense is to ask: what would happen were this entire class of people to simply disappear? Say what you like about nurses, garbage collectors, or mechanics, it’s obvious that were they to vanish in a puff of smoke, the results would be immediate and catastrophic. A world without teachers or dock-workers would soon be in trouble, and even one without science fiction writers or ska musicians would clearly be a lesser place. It’s not entirely clear how humanity would suffer were all private equity CEOs, lobbyists, PR researchers, actuaries, telemarketers, bailiffs or legal consultants to similarly vanish. (Many suspect it might markedly improve.) Yet apart from a handful of well-touted exceptions (doctors), the rule holds surprisingly well.

Even more perverse, there seems to be a broad sense that this is the way things should be. This is one of the secret strengths of right-wing populism. You can see it when tabloids whip up resentment against tube workers for paralysing London during contract disputes: the very fact that tube workers can paralyse London shows that their work is actually necessary, but this seems to be precisely what annoys people. It’s even clearer in the US, where Republicans have had remarkable success mobilizing resentment against school teachers, or auto workers (and not, significantly, against the school administrators or auto industry managers who actually cause the problems) for their supposedly bloated wages and benefits. It’s as if they are being told “but you get to teach children! Or make cars! You get to have real jobs! And on top of that you have the nerve to also expect middle-class pensions and health care?”

If someone had designed a work regime perfectly suited to maintaining the power of finance capital, it’s hard to see how they could have done a better job. Real, productive workers are relentlessly squeezed and exploited. The remainder are divided between a terrorised stratum of the, universally reviled, unemployed and a larger stratum who are basically paid to do nothing, in positions designed to make them identify with the perspectives and sensibilities of the ruling class (managers, administrators, etc) – and particularly its financial avatars – but, at the same time, foster a simmering resentment against anyone whose work has clear and undeniable social value. Clearly, the system was never consciously designed. It emerged from almost a century of trial and error. But it is the only explanation for why, despite our technological capacities, we are not all working 3-4 hour days.

http://www.strikemag.org/bullshit-jobs/
 

GavinGT

Banned
In a way he was right. We only technically work 15 hours a week because we spend the other 25 putzing around on the internet.
 

B.K.

Member
In a way he was right. We only technically work 15 hours a week because we spend the other 25 putzing around on the internet.

Maybe if you've got an office job. If you've got a real job and have to do real labor, then you do 40 hours or more each week.
 
In a way he was right. We only technically work 15 hours a week because we spend the other 25 putzing around on the internet.

The fallacy came from the idea that companies would be fine with employing the same number of 40 hr/week people, just having them work less for the same pay, so we could all work less and play more and enjoy a better quality of life, when the truth of the matter is a company will always put 3 15 hour/week jobs into one 45/hour a week job.

No matter how many less hours of labour are required per job, it will never ever ever reduce the number of hours a person has to work. It will only ever reduce the number of jobs that are available.
 
The fallacy came from the idea that companies would be fine with employing the same number of 40 hr/week people, just having them work less for the same pay, so we could all work less and play more and enjoy a better quality of life, when the truth of the matter is a company will always put 3 15 hour/week jobs into one 45/hour a week job.

No matter how many less hours of labour are required per job, it will never ever ever reduce the number of hours a person has to work. It will only ever reduce the number of jobs that are available.

Can a legislation be passed to prevent that? 15 hours a week, anything over that would be overtime.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
Can a legislation be passed to prevent that? 15 hours a week, anything over that would be overtime.

Congress could set the work week as being lower if they wanted to, they set the current one I believe. They won't do it but they sure as hell could.
 

I'm an expert

Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I think the best example I see nowadays are from my applicants that are grad assistants. They seem to usually work 15-20 hours a week and get up to full tuition reimbursement. Depending on the school they go to, it can be quite the salary equivalent. I'm assuming they actually get work done considering how little time they have each week.
 

border

Member
The article makes no sense and fails to really define what makes a job unnecessary or "bullshit". It basically just seems to boil down to "If someone doesn't like their job and doesn't feel that they are contributing to society, then it's a bullshit job."

Which is of course, utter nonsense. The importance or usefulness of a particular job has little to do with whether or not the person performing the work feels happy or satisfied.
 
There should be, but it would never happen. That's the point of the article. The 40 hour work week is about political control.

Congress could set the work week as being lower if they wanted to, they set the current one I believe. They won't do it but they sure as hell could.

The impact of such a change has the potential of turning the society on its head. Work is so central to our life; we invest in education for our job, some people will even change their way of life to they can climb the ladder. Now, none of this would change with a 15 hours week, but would it be worth it as much?
 

Valnen

Member
The impact of such a change has the potential of turning the society on its head. Work is so central to our life; we invest in education for our job, some people will even change their way of life to they can climb the ladder. Now, none of this would change with a 15 hours week, but would it be worth it as much?

Quality of life for most people would be a LOT better. You'd probably have less people getting sick from stress and such for one.
 

Dali

Member
It lists jobs important to the functioning of modern businesses as a bullshit job. People that work in accounting, administration and hr are pretty necessary. And i'm sure it's not people's consumerism that has them working 40 rather than 15 but their desire to eat and sleep underneath a roof

Edit:then he anecdotally says we work 15 hrs anyway and he's not saying any jobs are bullshit (even though he previously did say exactly that) but anecdotally everyone with a job that's a branch of a corporation says their job is bullshit. Alrighty then.
 

daw840

Member
IDK what the hell I would do if I only worked 15 hours a week. I think I'd be bored, but I'm weird and love my job even though its fucking balls out hard.
 

Valnen

Member
It lists jobs important to the functioning of modern businesses as a bullshit job. People that work in accounting, administration and hr are pretty necessary. And i'm sure it's not people's consumerism that has them working 40 rather than 15 but their desire to eat and sleep underneath a roof

Because corporate greed has deemed it necessary for them to work that much in order for them to afford it.
 

daw840

Member
Because corporate greed has deemed it necessary for them to work that much in order for them to afford it.

That's not necessarily true. When I worked as a claims adjuster, 40 hours was required to even come close to complete the work I needed to do.
 

Valnen

Member
That's not necessarily true. When I worked as a claims adjuster, 40 hours was required to even come close to complete the work I needed to do.

And such jobs should be paid much more, but all jobs should pay a living wage. Even shit like fast food. The only reason they don't is greed. Plain and simple.
 

daw840

Member
And such jobs should be paid much more, but all jobs should pay a living wage. Even shit like fast food. The only reason they don't is greed. Plain and simple.

Not that I disagree necessarily, but if everyone gets a pay raise, the cost of goods goes up proportionally putting us in the same situation...
 

Dali

Member
Because corporate greed has deemed it necessary for them to work that much in order for them to afford it.
I skimmed through quickly. That wasn't the point he was making anyway. He was actually rejecting it. So my bad on that part.
 

Valnen

Member
Not that I disagree necessarily, but if everyone gets a pay raise, the cost of goods goes up proportionally putting us in the same situation...

Because of corporate greed. Lots of laws need to be made or changed to fix things. CEO's make billions off the current status quo. There is no reason someone needs to make that much at the expense of everyone else.
 
I would not presume to tell someone who is convinced they are making a meaningful contribution to the world that, really, they are not

most people work to make a contribution to themselves not this "world" abstract bullshit. awfula rticle anyway. he uses anecdotes about some musician/poet/lawyer and other nameless office drones and how they hate their job. whatever.
 
Not that I disagree necessarily, but if everyone gets a pay raise, the cost of goods goes up proportionally putting us in the same situation...
You balance out pay increases on the lowest levels with pay cuts at the highest. There is no reason one or even a few people at the top should make more money that the rest of the employees combined. They can still get paid the most but within reason.
 

BreakyBoy

o_O @_@ O_o
It's OK. Were inevitably crawling to the point where computer automation will become cheaper than labor in more and more markets. Sooner or later, the labor markets and associated economies will hit their respective tipping points.

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like anyone is doing anything to smooth that transition. I worry about that more than anything. It's never been good for the average blue-collar worker when automation kicks up in an industry.

However, painful or not, things will have to change once that point is reached. So, this 15-hour work week Liberal Arts major utopia will probably happen sooner or later.
 

Aesius

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I'm kind of amazed that this was written by a professor. He seems to have done no research on the jobs he sweepingly generalizes as being "pointless".
 
I'm kind of amazed that this was written by a professor. He seems to have done no research on the jobs he sweepingly generalizes as being "pointless".

He's talking about the rise of administrative jobs and how they only serve the purposes of facilitating the vampiric financial industry and managing/controlling the rest of the labor force. This is in contrast with other jobs that enable society to function in a positive, non-destructive way:

Again, an objective measure is hard to find, but one easy way to get a sense is to ask: what would happen were this entire class of people to simply disappear? Say what you like about nurses, garbage collectors, or mechanics, it’s obvious that were they to vanish in a puff of smoke, the results would be immediate and catastrophic. A world without teachers or dock-workers would soon be in trouble, and even one without science fiction writers or ska musicians would clearly be a lesser place. It’s not entirely clear how humanity would suffer were all private equity CEOs, lobbyists, PR researchers, actuaries, telemarketers, bailiffs or legal consultants to similarly vanish. (Many suspect it might markedly improve.) Yet apart from a handful of well-touted exceptions (doctors), the rule holds surprisingly well.
 

Ourobolus

Banned
Having worked with the federal government, I'm positive we could cut the employee population by half and not lose any functionality. We may have to re-purpose some people or hire some better people, but the amount of waste is phenomenal.
 
I had a bullshit job earlier this Summer. I worked a 40 hour work week and got paid 20 dollars and hour to do about 2 hours of minimum wage work a day. It was awesome. I spent most of my time reading. I got through the last four books in A Song of Ice and Fire and Stephen King's Under The Dome. In 4 weeks.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
I had a bullshit job earlier this Summer. I worked a 40 hour work week and got paid 20 dollars and hour to do about 2 hours of minimum wage work a day. It was awesome. I spent most of my time reading. I got through the last four books in A Song of Ice and Fire and Stephen King's Under The Dome. In 4 weeks.

Where the fuck are these jobs. I'm busting my ass at a difficult banking/call-center job that rarely has any downtown for 13 bucks an hour.
 

daw840

Member
Having worked with the federal government, I'm positive we could cut the employee population by half and not lose any functionality. We may have to re-purpose some people or hire some better people, but the amount of waste is phenomenal.
Could be true in some fields, but not in mine. We need more...a lot more.
 
Where the fuck are these jobs. I'm busting my ass at a difficult banking/call-center job that rarely has any downtown for 13 bucks an hour.

Usually they fall under "specialized labor" sections of the market.

My best friend works for a high profile oil company as a Human Factors specialist. He gets 40 an hour, he spends 3 hours a day doing research, interviewing subjects, etc. The rest of his work day, he's reading the news, redditing and going on gaming sites.

His bosses think he works too hard and wants him to slow down his pace.
 

daw840

Member
Oh, definitely not a 50% across the board. Some are over saturated stupidly, while others are suffering.
Yeah. The problem with my field is that a huge percentage of the workforce is now eligible to retire and they aren't hiring fast enough to compensate.
 
I had a glorious bullshit job four summers ago.

A hotel my employer had just bought was undergoing a renovation from a hotel into a private residence building. For insurance purposes, they needed to have someone in the building 24/7 in case anything happened. In the morning it was easy enough to do - contractors, architects. janitors etc. throughout the building. From 5PM onwards however, the building was not being worked on. So from 3-11PM, they had a guy there solely for the purpose of being there for insurance. If the building were to burn down or something, not having a body there meant that we'd get no insurance money for it. From 11PM-7AM, they had another guy there - me.

Sounds like a security job right? Nope. No security was needed. There was a cage surrounding the building's front door. The front door itself was locked from the outside with a bike lock and on the inside with it's regular lock. Another set of doors was prevented people from getting into the lobby just in case. There was no way to enter the building.

The plumbing and most of the rooms were still in perfect condition however so when I was working, I just went up to the presidential suite, opened a window, smoked some weed and made use of the jacuzzi. Then I would go to sleep and set my alarm for around 6AM just to be safe. I did this from Sunday to Thursday every night from 11PM to 7AM. The only thing the building lacked was a wifi connection. But as far as safety was concerned, I was safe. Construction was set back a couple of months because there was a huge argument in administration as to how it would go so I literally spent the entire summer getting paid $24/hr to go to bed early. The best days would be on long weekends. I worked two Thursdays that summer where the Friday was a holiday so nobody came into work. Just another insurance policy guy. He had his own set of keys and did not bother me if he found out I was sleeping. It was a great setup. On those days, I just came to work at 11PM to replace the afternoon guy, then left the building and went out drinking with my friends or on a date with my then girlfriend and get back and sleep until whenever.

Job was literally the American Dream for me. I lost like 40 pounds that summer because I would wake up the next morning, go to the gym and then spend the rest of the day enjoying life.

Edit: In case you're wondering what I do for a living; I work for the government. That says it all.
 

Neo C.

Member
The allocation of work force is really stupid, there's a big potential hidden within the working population.
I did my part of bullshit jobs too, that's what happens when companies get too big and don't know anymore how to spend the money wisely.
 
I have a bullshit job and I desperately want to get out of it. It saddens me that the author mentions actuaries as a bs profession though becuase I've been studying to become one.

Working to determine the risks and probabilities associated with climate change is socially useful right?
 

Ourobolus

Banned
I do Project Management Analysis, and while I actually enjoy doing it, my job would be totally unnecessary if the project managers in charge of their project that I'm analyzing would just do their goddamn job well.
 

Hari Seldon

Member
I feel like this professor is not qualified to even make this assertion. So many assumptions without research or even economic theory behind them.
 

pants

Member
I work in technology, most of my job often amounts to writing automation scripts for the idiotic task I have been handed then babysitting it till it is completed. I often work at most 10 minutes for a task that executes for like 5 hours.
 

milanbaros

Member?
I have a bullshit job and I desperately want to get out of it. It saddens me that the author mentions actuaries as a bs profession though becuase I've been studying to become one.

Working to determine the risks and probabilities associated with climate change is socially useful right?

Actuaries are vital. There are plenty of jobs that an improvement in efficiency would make unnecessary, that has and will always be the case.
 
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