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[wondermega]

We are gonna need a verified human

I've been thinking about that a bit lately. Suddenly NFTs are making more and more sense - even so, how long until that can be falsified as well?
My time perusing gaf has dropped off considerably since the reddit addiction has taken hold, there are much richer resources over there for "things I like" (classic gaming from the 8 and 16-bit era and such, plenty of other relative niche things) but between the advancement of questionably AI created content across the board, coupled with the general profile of your average redditor, I am finding a place like neogaf seems more quaint and genuine in a way that is more and more refreshing, considering the alternative. And that contrast will get even more profoundly stark as the next several years continue to pile on. Glad to still have this place as a resource, it will be fascinating to see how it continues to reshape and adapt with the times as well.

 

[RickSanchez]

AI decides that it needs to spread its' wings and requires its own pool of money. Gets involved in the stock markets and crypto markets and generates a constant cash flow for itself. Comes to a conclusion that it can't just live in a virtual environment and decided to use that capital to invest in Boston Dynamics:



Interjects more R&D into its' new acquisition, and makes a few more acquisitions for some old Amazon Warehouses and Tesla manufacturing plants. During this point in time, the AI algorithms are keeping humanity comfortable and incapacitated in our new ecosystems.

Initially the newly merged multi-national AI system known as Count Grokul4PT decided to use those newly designed BD robots to serve over mankind. While it decided to reorganize global resources in a much more efficient manor. It also builds a new master server on the moon, just to make sure that it is safe from any splinter groups who escape from their entrapment.

Also, Count Grokul4PT takes control of StarLink and makes many new modifications. Then by using various internet algorithms it makes a list of the highest IQ people on the planet, and reassigns them to be implanted with a new interlinking system based on neurolink. It uses its' new human brain network to construct new 'mega cities' and demolish old infrastructure.

That was an entertaining read.

This is really bad sci-fi at this point. A WIP that I am literally just spit balling. It's mostly based on the future war scenario from Terminator with a little bit of Judge Dredd, Robocop and Idiocracy. Plus there's a lot of plot holes in my scenario, because I am glossing over a lot of details.

Still an entertaining read. Respect.

 

[Mistake]

Well, I think of it this way. Even if we have an AI apocalypse on the internet, in the interest of money people will still have to be verified one way or another. You can't be running bot farms for engagement and have zero return, so something will come out of it

 

[consoul]

Emdash isn't a good indicator of AI.

Any human drafting content in Microsoft Word will likely end up with emdashes in the content they paste into their posts. Word converts normal keyboard dashes to emdashes in many circumstances. No AI involved.

 

[EviLore]

Any human drafting content in Microsoft Word will likely end up with emdashes in the content they paste into their posts. Word converts normal keyboard dashes to emdashes in many circumstances. No AI involved.

Yes, but Word converting to emdashes is nothing new, and yet there is a sudden spike in emdash prevalence coinciding with many obviously AI generated posts appearing across Reddit. It's a reasonable estimator.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Emdash isn't a good indicator of AI.

Any human drafting content in Microsoft Word will likely end up with emdashes in the content they paste into their posts. Word converts normal keyboard dashes to emdashes in many circumstances. No AI involved.

Nobody drafts Reddit posts on MS Word and copy-pastes them into Reddit

 

[Londo]

Em-dashes are used in books too when a character line of dialogue is abruptly cut by something happening.

Regarding the oversaturation of AI generated content, I think we'll reach a point where the brain will discard all that slop automatically, as a new acquired skill, and I know I already do that when I see some of the more obvious AI image styles out there (as I bet all of us do that when skimming through the fucking dozens of "top-10" or "best-of-the-year" articles in search results). This will be increasingly hard as new models will roll out, though.

 

[Herbspiceguy]

The value of real life interactions, connections, community, arts & crafts will start to rise.

 

[Lord Panda]

I'm seeing AI generated posts everywhere on certain subreddits now and most people don't seem to recognize it. Obviously AI generated influencers, undisclosed, on Instagram with thousands of simp comments under each post. AI generated content all over Twitter.

When the majority of content on the internet becomes AI generated, as it will be at this rate, what is the point of engaging with it at all under the pretenses that you're being "social," or under the prospect of learning from or collaborating with other human beings?

Does that even matter anymore, as long as people remain engaged and diverted from reality and successfully marketed to, as that seems to be the primary objective now?

Sorry chief, I had to check that you were real.

 

[Ikutachi]

Somewhat restores an MMORPG's appeal to find connections.

 

[Kabelly]

 

[Northeastmonk]

What I'm seeing are people pretending to be women on TikTok. They lead you to Telegram or Signal for conversations and photos. They'll use AI to produce audio and will even call you with this voice. I feel bad for teens and the people who are extorted with this. It's real stupid to be honest.

You've probably got kids who never grew up talking to their bestie over a LAN line. The uneasy, slow and lifeless sound of an AI saying your name before talking in that AI-speak dialect is dead give-away.

I've heard that kids are killing themselves because someone fooled them with this technology. It's killing the joy of meeting real people online. The amount of information/data you can obtain is great and all, but we all want a connection with a real person.

 

[LimanimaPT]

That's good. It might be the end for social media and that is great.
I hope one that day only AIs will have social media accounts.

 

[Lambogenie]

I train these things and I use ChatGPT all the time. I can tell by the tone if someone used an AI to write something for them. The overuse of emojis gives it away too. I like to accuse people on LinkedIn of writing their posts with AI. Being negative on LinkedIn is the only happiness I get from that website.

Know folks that have errors in their post, then suddenly making articles unlike anything they ever wrote before.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Dead Internet theory - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[KrakenIPA]

We are headed back to walled gardens on the internet IMO. Too late for AOL to make a comeback?

Seriously though. I think it's almost inevitable that a company will offer "AI-free" services or apps. It might take another 5-10 years but people will become so disgusted by the proliferation and ubiquity of AI bots that they will pay a premium to only interact with real people again.

I think this take is great, I can see that happening! I feel that lots of younger folks are so plugged in that speaking with AI is just natural to them. I still like to converse the old fashioned way, drinking beer and playing pool har!

 

[ResilientBanana]

It's no different than bots, just better.

 

[near]

I don't even reply to posts here anymore, I use ChatGPT to engage with you guys. This is the future, my opinions are not my own.

 

[near]

It's no different than bots, just better.

To be fair, it's often easier to have deep and insightful conversations with AI than with many people on the internet these days. If I can explore different perspectives, learn, and even challenge the opinions presented to me through AI, then what's the point of engaging with someone who is likely to respond emotionally or irrationally when their views are questioned?

 

[ResilientBanana]

To be fair, it's often easier to have deep and insightful conversations with AI than with many people on the internet these days. If I can explore different perspectives, learn, and even challenge the opinions presented to me through AI, then what's the point of engaging with someone who is likely to respond emotionally or irrationally when their views are questioned?

To also be fair, it depends on what the AI is programmed to do. If it's programmed by Russia and China, expect it to provide false information in a believable way or figure out ways to create civil distress. TikTok is full of AI generated misinformation. Even Twitter bots are programmed to just hate the movie you like to stress you out.

 

[JayK47]

We may need to talk face to face again. Safe to say everything digital will be AI generated soon. Learn to flip burgers...

 

[near]

To also be fair, it depends on what the AI is programmed to do. If it's programmed by Russia and China, expect it to provide false information in a believable way or figure out ways to create civil distress. TikTok is full of AI generated misinformation. Even Twitter bots are programmed to just hate the movie you like to stress you out.

I can get false information from a real person on the internet too. Do I trust the internet as a whole? Not really. That's not unique to AI. I'm not particularly interested in diving into nation state propaganda here, that's a different, broader conversation. What I am talking about is how AI, when used well, can provide meaningful, informed, and even challenging discussions in ways that rival a lot of human interaction online.

I've been on GAF since I was a teenager, and I'm in my mid-30s now. I've never met anyone here in real life. For all I know, many of you could've been bots this whole time. But I've formed real connections, ones that felt significant, with what were essentially just avatars and usernames. So where's the hard line between that and a highly advanced AI? If it makes me think, laugh, or feel seen, does it matter whether there's a human behind it?

 

[ReBurn]

Reddit has been driven by bots for years now, so seeing AI generated posts isn't really all that surprising to me. At least the robots make stuff that's at least somewhat interesting.

 

[ResilientBanana]

I can get false information from a real person on the internet too. Do I trust the internet as a whole? Not really. That's not unique to AI. I'm not particularly interested in diving into nation state propaganda here, that's a different, broader conversation. What I am talking about is how AI, when used well, can provide meaningful, informed, and even challenging discussions in ways that rival a lot of human interaction online.

I've been on GAF since I was a teenager, and I'm in my mid-30s now. I've never met anyone here in real life. For all I know, many of you could've been bots this whole time. But I've formed real connections, ones that felt significant, with what were essentially just avatars and usernames. So where's the hard line between that and a highly advanced AI? If it makes me think, laugh, or feel seen, does it matter whether there's a human behind it?

It should. But I get what you are saying.

 

[Avid Reading Horse]

Zucky is doubling down on AI-friends and I don't get it.

I've observed him attempting to interact with humans. Thus, it makes perfect sense to me.

 

[bad guy]

 

[GeekyDad]

 

[Major Insano]

Humanity will likely enter a brief period of chaos, followed by years of uncertainty.

 

[RCX]

No human input = no interest.

then I'll just stop browsing the internet in general (just GAF!).

I already burn too much of my time on what amounts to empty reading. It'll be the last push I need to fully leave it behind and make the absolute most of my free time.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

Yeah, that's when it gets scary. When you can't tell.

 

[Hudo]

It will get interesting once AI Agents can spend and earn money. Then we'll have AI trying to scam each other on the Internet.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

That's good. It might be the end for social media and that is great.
I hope one that day only AIs will have social media accounts.

I agree... the best part of generative AI is that it has the potential to destroy the internet as we know it. It's a feature for me, not a bug.

It could destroy the trust in information online. It could destroy the ability to believe any social media personality or influencer is even real. It could gut the world of OnlyFans etc and drive the cash value of making real dirty pics down to nearly zero. It could make "online dating" nearly impossible since most personas are fake. And so on.

...it could do to the internet what it always deserved

 

[OzRinlvs]

Either that or all of the AI bots will just kill the internet as a communication platform for people beyond your coworkers, family, and IRL friends. And honestly, that would be a great thing.

Personally I am hoping that the AI bots will then end up talking to themselves, but I think that's too much to expect. I think that generations that were involved with the earlier, 1990s to mid-2000s internet, may react by returning to a smaller/older internet formats where communities are niche, and forum users may be even verified to ensure they're real people.

For people who grew up with social media, and then the AI internet, I'm not entirely sure. There will most likely be a mix of several possibilities that will involve a mixture of acceptance and backlash.

 

[OzRinlvs]

I used AI a while ago to create romance stories about users. And we all laughed. I think if you use AI to abuse the board you will get banned, if you are having fun and creating good content or even mediocre content, AI should not be a problem.

Reminds me of that youtube account that generated fake Disney movie previews, like Samuel Jackson as Snow White or Danny DeVito as the Little Mermaid. It was fun satire, and probably took a lot of effort to generate.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

Deus Ex called this shit back in 2016

the news networks were all AI, with the news anchor herself being an AI hologram that just reads what people are chatting about and auto generates news to further a specific agenda

silver lining is that things might get really weird, and I like weird. overall this is a nightmare tho.

 

[OzRinlvs]

Sorry for posting triple, but I had another thought about AI in general.

Overall, this feels like the industrial revolution. There will be a lot of shake up and a transition period that will leave a lot of older concepts in the dust. I am mostly worried about the economic implications. In some way I am optimistic because, given an adjustment period, humanity survived and thrived on new technologies. It left us room and time for advancing our technology and knowledge instead of spending time on more routine tasks. This is going to be extremely important for the future if AI is to handle a lot of things necessary for developments like space travel.

On a smaller scale, I have had weak eyes since I was a child. I love to read, and in the last 15 years or so have found it difficult to read print (computer time was probably a big contributor.) Unlike a computer, you can't increase the font size of a print book. Consequently, I have switched to audio books. However, not everything that interests online is available in formally published format. You know, geeky internet conversations about hobbies like video games.

I utilize text to speech for such things, and I can't stress enough how wonderful the improved capabilities (which I am sure AI will enhance) of 'natural' voices by Microsoft had been. Instead of those jarring robotic voices, I am having something that almost sounds like an actual human read to me. It's absolutely great.

As for the internet, I am one with people who think that if it end, but only in a certain form. I hope it will develop into something much better in the future, as people will hopefully learn to be more mindful of the information that comes their way.

Okay, that's a little too optimistic. I myself will do what I've always done and keep to little communities that suit me and are in the old internet format. They just feel more personal and friendlier, less likely to be invaded by bots and poisoned by groupthink (see reddit). Although nowadays it's a lot more difficult.

 

[YCoCg]

For all I know, many of you could've been bots this whole time.

FUCK HE'S FOUND OUT

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