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[Deleted member 80556]

His hate is kinda justified. If he means that Bioshock is (actual spoilers)

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a story taken pretty much from System Shock, some of the gameplay being similar, and even similar circumstances (it really is stretching it, so I am not in this side of the coin).

If he means by some other aspect of the game, I really can't agree.

 

[FACE]

it's super rigged, we all know it, no one wants to challenge it in case we stop getting free stuff.

I'm not sure how I feel about the whole bar filling stuff, honestly. However free XCOM sure is alluring.

He and Derrick are probably making out right now.

FACE and Derrick
sitting in a tree:
K-I-S-S-I-N-G

His hate is kinda justified. If he means that Bioshock is (actual spoilers)

Spoiler

a story taken pretty much from System Shock, some of the gameplay being similar, and even similar circumstances (it really is stretching it, so I am not in this side of the coin).

If he means by some other aspect of the game, I really can't agree.

Pretty much. They took SS2, removed most of the interesting stuff like skills, classes and resource management and turned it into a mediocre shooter.

 

[Poimandres]

He and Derrick are probably making out right now.

Angry, passionate love.

 

[ArisenDragon]

 

[Trigger]

Angry, passionate love.

LMAO

 

[Deleted member 80556]

Man, they've sure come a long way of Elizabeth's design. I love her current design, it really is the best of them all. The first one was kinda awkward to be honest!

 

[ArisenDragon]

I got that gif from here
http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/bioshock gif

 

[Deleted member 80556]

Pretty much. They took SS2, removed most of the interesting stuff like skills, classes and resource management and turned it into a mediocre shooter.

Knew it! Derrick thinks this too, so the jokes are justified. Bwahaha.

 

[faceless007]

Those roller coaster feels..

Maybe this is a dumb question but how does the hook thing stay on the rails with those circular supports every few feet?

 

[FACE]

Knew it! Derrick thinks this too, so the jokes are justified. Bwahaha.

DAMNIT!

But seriously, it's not an uncommon opinion. Check the SS2 OT.

 

[Deleted member 80556]

DAMNIT!

But seriously, it's not an uncommon opinion. Check the SS2 OT.

You mean there are that many people on trees?!

 

[Poimandres]

Pretty much. They took SS2, removed most of the interesting stuff like skills, classes and resource management and turned it into a mediocre shooter.

But what about DAT SETTING?

Rapture is one of the best settings ever envisioned, in my opinion.

 

[Sn4ke_911]

Maybe this is a dumb question but how does the hook thing stay on the rails with those circular supports every few feet?

I think they changed it since then.

This makes more sense.

 

[RoboPlato]

Man, they've sure come a long way of Elizabeth's design. I love her current design, it really is the best of them all. The first one was kinda awkward to be honest!

I agree. Haven't seen the updated version since I've been on a pretty strict blackout for a while but she looks great there. Much more naturally proportioned all around and she fits in more with the other characters' designs.

 

[Derrick01]

Knew it! Derrick thinks this too, so the jokes are justified. Bwahaha.

Pretty much everyone who has played SS2 thinks the same about Bioshock 1.

 

[DukeBobby]

Pretty much everyone who has played SS2 thinks the same about Bioshock 1.

Don't exaggerate. There are plenty of people who love both, including me.

 

[ArisenDragon]

Pretty much everyone who has played SS2 thinks the same about Bioshock 1.

Hello Derrick I heard so much about you.

 

[Poimandres]

Don't exaggerate. There are plenty of people who love both, including me.

Put me in that club as well.

Honestly, I think the criticims levelled at this game will be similar. I suspect it will be praised for its setting, presentation, story and overall production values while being criticized for playing too much like Bioshock.

 

[Muffdraul]

Don't exaggerate. There are plenty of people who love both, including me.

And me. Bioshock left out a lot of SS2's nuts & bolts, but it made up for it in various ways.

And I always feel like I'm the only person who played SS2 when it came out and didn't find it to be particularly scary.

 

[Deleted member 80556]

Pretty much everyone who has played SS2 thinks the same about Bioshock 1.

Don't exaggerate. There are plenty of people who love both, including me.

Put me in that club as well.

And me. Bioshock left out a lot of SS2's nuts & bolts, but it made up for it in various ways.

Derrick right now:

I mean, it's an opinion. Bioshock on itself has its flaws, but it's pretty great.

 

[Stark]

Pretty much everyone who has played SS2 thinks the same about Bioshock 1.

Nah. I think B1 is better than SS2.

 

[Andrew.]

Pretty much everyone who has played SS2 thinks the same about Bioshock 1.

Don't exaggerate. There are plenty of people who love both, including me.

Hello Derrick I heard so much about you.

Put me in that club as well.

And me. Bioshock left out a lot of SS2's nuts & bolts, but it made up for it in various ways.

And I always feel like I'm the only person who played SS2 when it came out and didn't find it to be particularly scary.

Derrick right now:

I mean, it's an opinion. Bioshock on itself has its flaws, but it's pretty great.

 

[FACE]

You mean there are that many people on trees?!

Full on orgies bro.

But what about DAT SETTING?

Rapture is one of the best settings ever envisioned, in my opinion.

It was okay, I guess.

 

[ArisenDragon]

We had systemshock, then bioshock the next should be culture shock where you play as a foreigner in an unknown country lol.

 

[rrs]

Pretty much everyone who has played SS2 thinks the same about Bioshock 1.

Yeah Bioshock is more simple than SS2 but both are awesome games in their own right so pfft

 

[Deleted member 102362]

Don't exaggerate. There are plenty of people who love both, including me.

I'm also someone who enjoyed both, though I absolutely appreciate that SS2 innovated a lot of things that B1 used, such as audio logs

Spoiler

and the Polito scene

.

 

[Poimandres]

Full on orgies bro.

 

[FACE]

All the cool people agree that SS2 is far better than Bioshock, for example:

System Shock 2 shits on Bioshock from a great height. Owe it to yourself to play it.

 

[Derrick01]

Nah. I think B1 is better than SS2.

In what way? I'm going to enjoy you trying to pull this one off.

And don't try to fall back by saying the setting. Give me some depth in the explanation...something Bioshock didn't have in the gameplay department

 

[FACE]

In what way? I'm going to enjoy you trying to pull this one off.

And don't try to fall back by saying the setting. Give me some depth in the explanation...something Bioshock didn't have in the gameplay department

 

[Muffdraul]

All the cool people agree that SS2 is far better than Bioshock, for example:

cool people = hipster

 

[Deleted member 80556]

All the cool people agree that SS2 is far better than Bioshock, for example:

And you had to search for that?

Hehe, just kidding. But is EviLore's opinion better than mine? Is EviLore more of a man than me? Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow his opinion?

 

[faceless007]

In what way? I'm going to enjoy you trying to pull this one off.

And don't try to fall back by saying the setting. Give me some depth in the explanation...something Bioshock didn't have in the gameplay department

I've got news for you, but there are people out there for whom gameplay is not the sole factor in evaluating a game's success.

 

[Derrick01]

I've got news for you, but there are people out there for whom gameplay is not the sole factor in evaluating a game's success.

Well if we were reviewing movies then I would care about that, but I don't. I don't need to hear a breakdown of some direct to DVD quality movie's story.

 

[FallingSputnik]

Maybe this is a dumb question but how does the hook thing stay on the rails with those circular supports every few feet?

You'd let that ruin the entire game experience, wouldn't you? ;p

Seriously though, I'd use my suspension of disbelief, otherwise there's numerous games with similar issues. Besides, there's more concerning issues, like,

Spoiler

floating cities.

 

[Muffdraul]

SS2 had shit butt game play! Degrading weapons? Even Ken Levine himself admits that totally sucked!

 

[Dodecagon]

Pretty much everyone who has played SS2 thinks the same about Bioshock 1.

I loved them both, but I will say having read Atlas Shrugged a week before I beat bioshock probably influenced my love of bioshock's story. Regardless, dat setting

 

[Fjordson]

Don't exaggerate. There are plenty of people who love both, including me.

Me as well.

I didn't really have a problem with Bioshock's combat. And the atmosphere and setting counted for a a lot. More interesting as a setting for me than the SS2 ships to be honest.

Mechanically, SS2 was pretty sweet, though. Love the classes.

 

[Poimandres]

In what way? I'm going to enjoy you trying to pull this one off.

And don't try to fall back by saying the setting. Give me some depth in the explanation...something Bioshock didn't have in the gameplay department

Bioshock had better gunplay. It's not perfect (far from it), but the extra polish bought the combat itself to a level above System Shock 2.

Spoiler

I think System Shock 2 is a better game

 

[FACE]

And you had to search for that?

Hehe, just kidding. But is EviLore's opinion better than mine? Is EviLore more of a man than me? Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow his opinion?

He agrees with me, therefore, his opinion >>>> your opinion

SS2 had shit butt game play! Degrading weapons? Even Ken Levine himself admits that totally sucked!

Ken Levine also made Bioshock, his opinion about gameplay is worthless.

 

[DukeBobby]

After finishing Bioshock back in 2007 (I was only 15 at the time), I wrote an essay on Objectivism for my Sociology class. Somehow, I got an A on it.

Thanks, Bioshock!!

 

[Muffdraul]

Ken Levine also made Bioshock, his opinion about gameplay is worthless.

Well I respect a man who can admit his awful, heinous, nigh unforgivable mistakes.

 

[Neiteio]

Didn't look like that when I played on the ps3 recently.

It doesn't look like that anymore. They patched the shit out of it, so that the PS3 version now looks fine, aside from some frame drops here and there.

You should thank me. I joined the HD gen partly for BioShock, partly for Blu-ray Pan's Labyrinth, so I got a PS3, and when I saw Pixel Daddy, I was on the frontlines at the 2K forums, shitstorming for a patch, lol.

'Course, now I got the PC version that runs circles around it in terms of image quality (almost -too- crisp, to the point of looking sterile!), but still, PS3 BioShock is perfectly awesome now.

 

[ArisenDragon]

It doesn't look like that anymore. They patched the shit out of it, so that the PS3 version now looks fine, aside from some frame drops here and there.

You should thank me. I joined the HD gen partly for BioShock, partly for Blu-ray Pan's Labyrinth, so I got a PS3, and when I saw Pixel Daddy, I was on the frontlines at the 2K forums, shitstorming for a patch, lol.

'Course, now I got the PC version that runs circles around it in terms of image quality (almost -too- crisp, to the point of looking sterile!), but still, PS3 BioShock is perfectly awesome now.

People were going crazy about that big daddy I remember. But this is going to be different so we see.

 

[phantomspiker]

SS2 had shit butt game play! Degrading weapons? Even Ken Levine himself admits that totally sucked!

And poorly balanced skills, easily exploitable AI, the clunky UI.

It's also an easy game once you get past all of the "complexity".

 

[Neiteio]

OK GAF I PREORDERED BIOSHOCK INFINITE ON STEAM.

Bettah work, bettah be tasty, bettah butter bacon with bacon bits.

EDIT: oh cool preordering puts the icon in your library :O

 

[Dodecagon]

OK GAF I PREORDERED BIOSHOCK INFINITE ON STEAM.

Bettah work, bettah be tasty, bettah butter bacon with bacon bits.

BROFIST...seriously though I want xcom

 

[Tesseract]

And poorly balanced skills, easily exploitable AI, the clunky UI.

It's also an easy game once you get past all of the "complexity".

so is every game ever. ;0

 

[Andrew.]

sweet tits.

 

[Zeth]

I think they changed it since then.

This makes more sense.

Is it actually a hook that just hangs on the rail, or is it a kind of spinning gear that locks into those grooves in the first pic? I'm confused.