Only nerds hate Halo

Borys

Banned
Found this little gem of journalism on SA:

The Secret of the Elitist Internet Nerd

There is a stereotypical view that people who use the Internet and play video games are pasty white nerds that sit hunched over their computer keyboards triumphantly hitting a submit button every five minutes in order to send an emotionally charged essay on why the upcoming PSP will suck donkey balls and that the Nintendo DS is the best thing since the invention of the Fleshlight (or vice versa) to a message board for other pasty white nerds to read and get angry about even though the message board is actually about lemonade stands and lemonade related discussion. This stereotype is pretty much true. 90 percent of all Internet forum communication is about why one form of entertainment is better than someone else’s form of entertainment.

Don’t kid yourselves. The Internet has nothing to do with spreading knowledge or learning new things in order to better our lives. More often than not it’s a dick waving contest to see who can be the most insane about video games, movies, or television shows. Do you like games designed by id software? Well, there’s a guy out there who likes games designed by Valve software and he’s living a lie! It’s up to you to find that person and berate them into enjoying id software games because for all he knows he has no idea what kind of video games he likes!

Did you absolutely hate Doom 3? There’s a message board out there full of people discussing Doom 3 and how great it is and it’s up to you to find that message board and call everyone on it a faggot. Hey, last night I spent an hour on a message board dedicated to parrots telling everybody how much parrots suck ass and how much the people who post there suck ass and told them all to suck my fucking ass because I hate parrots and cockatiels are the fucking bomb. Don’t look at me that way. I was just using the Internet for its intended purpose!

You’ve all heard of the Halo series. I thought Halo was among the most popular games that were ever made but whenever I see Halo mentioned anywhere there are a ton of people who get all up in arms about it. I thought all video game nerds love Halo but I was wrong. In fact, nerds hate Halo! They hate it because the same people who kicked their asses in high school are now kicking their ass in a video game. Halo has introduced a ton of non-nerds, namely the loud college dorm types, to video games. Relatively normal people who don’t spend 90 percent of their life extolling the virtues of their favorite Japanese RPG developer to anyone who would dare cross them are playing video games. For the first time ever, people with actual skin pigment are picking up a controller and shooting at stupid aliens made up of polygons, texture maps, and lies. The nerds feel threatened by it.

Nerds try to hide it. Whenever Halo is mentioned they say, “Well, Halo is just a generic shooter and only morons play it and there are so many better shooters that I would never waste my time with such a generic and stupid game such as Halo!” And then they pull out the latest Jap card battle game or angst-ridden jackass RPG. “Saken Denatsu no Tsunaji Naga Waka 2 is art, and Halo is not! ONLY STUPID JOCKS PLAY HALO!!!” How do you know you are dealing with one of these insane video game elitists? Simple, they refer to their favorite games as “titles”. You see, Japanese RPGs are not games, they are “titles”, as in, “Final Fantasy X was the most brilliant title of last year and Halo was the worst game.” Your entertainment is just entertainment but my entertainment is art!

I am sick and tired of art. Who cares if something is art? That’s no compliment. “Film is an ARTFORM and television is just trash for the masses!” Well, a guy shitting on the floor and taking a picture of it is also art.

Fuck these faggot fuck art movies and show me tits and ass. Show me heads exploding. Show me hilarious shit like a man getting hit in the groin with a football or a football getting hit by a man’s groin. Fuck Punch Drunk Love. I’d rather watch Billy Madison. Actually I’d rather not watch either but if you put a gun to my head and told me you would rape my asshole if I didn’t choose either movie within 5 seconds I would choose the option where you rape my asshole and shoot me in the head.

So these art nerd elitist video game fags think Japanese video games are more “art” than American games. I’m not sure about that but they sure do like games that feature a lot of ten year olds in short skirts. I’m talking about these games like Disgaea. I was looking at the ads for this game and they feature a girl who looks no more than 12 years old in a belly shirt. Yeah, that’s art. No it’s more like, if we ever figured out what’s actually on your computer’s hard drive, 25 to life. Look at La Pucelle Tactics. I imagine when they were designing the characters for this game the producer said to the artists, “Okay I want them to look like eight year olds but with D cups.” I’m not saying that everyone who plays Japanese video games and watches anime is a pedophile but, okay I am saying that.

:lol :lol :lol Gotta love SA :lol :lol :lol
This should make all the western-lovers (Hitler Stole My Brain comes to mind) happy.

Now, seriously, is there some truth in that? Do PS2 players, Final Fantasy lovers really hate Halo? I am thinking only PC gamers hate it (because of Halo stealing and all), japanese lovers do not even need Halo. It's not their kind of game, it's not RPG.
The don't buy FPS on PS2 so why should Halo bother them?

What's your take on the whole Halo hate thing? Who's spreading it and why?
 
belgurdo said:
Correct answer

I know this is a joke article but just look for yourself. On every forum there is a war waged because of Halo (2). How can one game polarize people so much? Certainly GTA didn't, Half-Life didn't, why Halo did?
 
NERDS UNITE! WE SHALL ALSO MAKE A COLUMN ON HOW NERDS ONLY PLAY HALO ON A WEBSITE TO SHOW HOW COOL WE ARE!!!111!! MAHAHAHA *SNORTS*
 
It's such an ass-tacular article I'm proud to say I have no idea what SA is short for. What site is it?

Edit: Wow. Just read more of the article. Judging by the fact he's calling people fags, I'm guessing SA stands for Super Opa?
 
Borys said:
I know this is a joke article but just look for yourself. On every forum there is a war waged because of Halo (2). How can one game polarize people so much? Certainly GTA didn't, Half-Life didn't, why Halo did?

Because it's on Xbox. Xbox wasn't supposed to have good games.
 
So these art nerd elitist video game fags think Japanese video games are more “art” than American games. I’m not sure about that but they sure do like games that feature a lot of ten year olds in short skirts. I’m talking about these games like Disgaea. I was looking at the ads for this game and they feature a girl who looks no more than 12 years old in a belly shirt. Yeah, that’s art. No it’s more like, if we ever figured out what’s actually on your computer’s hard drive, 25 to life. Look at La Pucelle Tactics. I imagine when they were designing the characters for this game the producer said to the artists, “Okay I want them to look like eight year olds but with D cups.” I’m not saying that everyone who plays Japanese video games and watches anime is a pedophile but, okay I am saying that.
:lol
 
The funny thing is, the article is true.

Not that I hate japanese games. I play quite a few, and I love N1's games, mainly for the gameplay though.
 
Unless somebody wants to put a link, or explain what the hell SA is short for, quit calling it an "article." I refuse to believe any reputable site would publish that. So just because some extreme wacko with an internet site puts up a rant, let's not go throwing about words like article or journalism. Anyone who writes such crap and has the gall to be offended by other extemeists is called what? A hypocrite. That's what.
 
thorns said:
Halo aside, the comments about japanese games being considered art while western games not is spot on :lol

:lol :lol

No it's not. If someone tells you that Disgea has good art, he doesn't have any taste. It has a "style" that some people could relate to, but it's not pretty. The same thing could be said about Everquest 2. It's just that Art is more important in Japan than it is here. How often do you see FMV cutscenes in North America? Most of the time it's real-time, rushed, and badly animated.

SA is Something Awful.
 
I refuse to believe any reputable site would publish that.

Something Awful is a joke website run by a guy that used to work on the PlanetQuake network sites (which eventually became GameSpy and was eventually sold to IGN). You're taking it a bit too seriously.
 
Enigma said:
Unless somebody wants to put a link, or explain what the hell SA is short for, quit calling it an "article." I refuse to believe any reputable site would publish that. So just because some extreme wacko with an internet site puts up a rant, let's not go throwing about words like article or journalism. Anyone who writes such crap and has the gall to be offended by other extemeists is called what? A hypocrite. That's what.

After you pull that log out of your butt and polish it, please realize that this is a joke article, then google "Something Awful"
 
Littleberu said:
:lol :lol

No it's not. If someone tells you that Disgea has good art, he doesn't have any taste. It has a "style" that some people could relate to, but it's not pretty. The same thing could be said about Everquest 2. It's just that Art is more important in Japan than it is here. How often do you see FMV cutscenes in North America? Most of the time it's real-time, rushed, and badly animated.

SA is Something Awful.

I don't consider videogames art and find the notion pretentious as hell. The only game I could call "art" is Planescape: Torment, and that is only because of the writing.
 
Borys said:
How can one game polarize people so much? Certainly GTA didn't

Gonna have to disagree there, chief! The nerd in me says GTA certainly polarized a LOT of people!

The article knows the truth! The reason GTA didn't polarize as much is because you can't go online GTA:SA and get beat by a jock! :lol
 
Did you absolutely hate Doom 3? There’s a message board out there full of people discussing Doom 3 and how great it is and it’s up to you to find that message board and call everyone on it a faggot.
That is so fucking true.
 
I got a love/hate relationship with Halo and Halo 2

some days I love it,, some days I hate it

mostly hate because of the pro-sniper maps and redneck xbox livers and their xenophobia

mostly love it because a good Shotguns Slayer match with friends on Lockout owns
 
Certainly one of the funniest and best SA rant ever, i'm proud of having paid :10bux: for this site. Their gaming forum is certainly one of the more coherent gaming forum that I know of, outside of this place. People there actually play games :lol
 
thorns said:
I don't consider videogames art and find the notion pretentious as hell. The only game I could call "art" is Planescape: Torment, and that is only because of the writing.

Not the videogame itself. The ART of the videogame. When you watch a movie, it's not the movie that's beautiful, it's the content of the movie.
 
thorns said:
I don't consider videogames art and find the notion pretentious as hell. The only game I could call "art" is Planescape: Torment, and that is only because of the writing.

Then you haven't looked into art theory much, considering videogames incorporate many different elements of "respected" artforms and put them together in an interactive form. Videogames aren't always art, but they CAN be if the developer chooses to make it that way. Neither are all movies or books or tv shows art, some ARE just for entertainment, but you can make a retarded blanket statement like that.
 
Belfast said:
Then you haven't looked into art theory much, considering videogames incorporate many different elements of "respected" artforms and put them together in an interactive form. Videogames aren't always art, but they CAN be if the developer chooses to make it that way. Neither are all movies or books or tv shows art, some ARE just for entertainment, but you can make a retarded blanket statement like that.

I'm with you, cap'n Belfast. My opinion is that many games are art.
 
Scholars maintain that only frat boys and High School dropouts smoking weed from coke cans play Halo 2. But the rest of that article just muddies up the water. Nintendo fans find satisfaction from the occasional classic Russian novel coupled with hours of discussion at the local campus corner cafe about the dangers of religion, while the Saken Denatsu no Tsunaji Naga Waka 2 fans seem to find Grisham divine and anime somehow interesting. PS2/Xbox fan's brains are the 1/3 the size of ours; it's science.

I really don't know how accurate this is but:
 
i agree with everything in that article, except the whole "fuck art" rant. and i dont really see a lot of rpgs as being particularly artistic.

and i wouldnt choose the ass raping option myself...
 
Funny or not, there is some truth to this article. Halo is not the only game to be considered somehow 'bad' because more than core game fans sit down and play it. Much earlier than it was around, Tekken got some hate because of that (shallow! button masher!), and God knows, GTA series is being ragged for that same reason like there's no tomorrow (controls suck!, graphics suck! everything sucks!), same with Gran Turismo (boring! no self respective gamer can play that borefest!).
 
Halo is alright (rather overrated), but most of the people I know who play it (in real life) are much more nerdy than those who prefer RPGs or fighting games (Japanese games)... PC FPS and MMORPGs are like the ultimate nerd genre IMO since those are the games where people will never leave the house and just stay inside to play. Okay enough ranting, back to Baten Kaitos (a card battle crossed with an RPG would you look at that?)
 
Another hilarious quality of the elitist nerd is anytime any publication or website is mentioned (especially here) it will mecilessly slammed and downgraded.

(Example)

Bob: Hey did you see the score Halo 2 got in Gamepro?

Nerd: You actually read that crap? LOL Why don't you go read a real video game magazine like Famitsu.

Gamepro can be exchanged for any other magazine or website and you will still have these dorks trying to feel superior by downgrading it as something only the newbs read etc.
 
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Hey, last night I spent an hour on a message board dedicated to parrots telling everybody how much parrots suck ass and how much the people who post there suck ass and told them all to suck my fucking ass because I hate parrots and cockatiels are the fucking bomb. Don’t look at me that way. I was just using the Internet for its intended purpose!

I take back my previous criticism, that's pretty great.
 
Well the part that catches my eye the most would be his thing with the content in the japanese games. Yaknow-the bit abit the 8 year old Japanese girl on box covers cracked me up. But for every one of those you'll turn aound and see some big breasted Western made game with female lugging around a bad back from having these huge silicone bombs on her chest,actually the Japanese do that too nowdays so whatever.

The Halo thing,well its a game that is pretty popular,naturally you'll see haters come out of the woodwork and degrade it some. But its like that fo allot of popular games. How many times have we seen media coverage totaly fuck up and not cover games that went under the radar and yet offer too much for others?
 
Art is pretty subjective. In MOMA there is a white cloth with a yellow brush stroke at one corner of it. That is apparently art. I'd rather play a game offering good mechanics, which is aesthetically pleasing than some abstruct visuals created just for self serving dilusions of the designer. Games should be judged by mechanics.
 
Naked Shuriken said:
Certainly one of the funniest and best SA rant ever, i'm proud of having paid :10bux: for this site. Their gaming forum is certainly one of the more coherent gaming forum that I know of, outside of this place. People there actually play games :lol

I like it for those reasons too. Real informative sometimes. I didn't appreciate getting put on probation for making a joke about Bittorrenting DC games though (but it's apparently okay to openly talk about stealing 16-bit stuff, despite the fact that those games get rereleased all the time. Definite wtf there)
 
From the perspective of a future game designer who wants to make Japanese quality American games:

I don't hate Halo. I like Halo. I just don't think it really brings anything new to the table. It's a pretty standard First Person Shooter. There's nothing special about it, or at least, I don't really see it. Granted, the story is better than the majority of FPS games (Half Life 2 aside), but that's about it. As a game... pretty generic, at least IMO.

On American games, I'm just tired of the mass amounts of FPS and real time strategies. There's barely anything original made in America these days. (Notice that I say barely.) That last paragraph in SA is pretty crappy, being Disgaea's main girl only looks twelve (SD style does that) and has pretty damn good gameplay. (though Tactics and Shining Force are both better grid strategies IMO, least Disgaea's funny though) Anyway, I wouldn't say nerds hate Halo, and I wouldn't say American games are so much worse, there's just a dry spell on creativity most, not all, of the time.
 
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