Pancake Mix
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The monarchy is a good thing as it exists today.
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Operation London Bridge - The plans for the death of Queen Elizabeth II
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Lostconfused
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Is it time for another referendum already?
Pancake Mix
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Obviously it would cause the world to stop for a moment, but after that, the largest potential geopolitical consequence I can see: Australia might have another Republican referendum.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_republic_referendum,_1999
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_republic_referendum,_1999
Same. He's a nice person, but I'd rather Canada drop the monarchy than have Charles appear on our currency. I like the Queen, she helped shape our country, but after she's gone, let's move on.
Lostconfused
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" British royals are buried in lead-lined coffins. Dianas weighed a quarter of a ton." The whaaaaa.
PJV3
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It should definitely be Charles, I would get pissed off if public opinion/mood came into deciding it.
How About No
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Is that a king's assload or a metric assload
Napalm_Frank
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Pancake Mix
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Although a referendum is a rare sight in Canada, that should be put to one, the public will want a say. Changing the head of state is a huge move, and I think an unnecessary one, at least how it seems today.
Lostconfused
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Isn't the whole point of monarchy that you don't get to choose?
Not since revolutions started happening and kings lost their heads at the hands of common men.
can listen to some of these http://www.revolutionspodcast.com/ might provide an interesting perspective on how things changed over time.
Ninja Scooter
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Those incest genes
andythinkpad
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Do you really have to sneak in "brexit sux" comment in every UK news?
You're right, it should go to a referendum, but our system doesn't have to change by doing so. Just officially move the role of ceremonial head of state to the Governor General. Then decide whether the GG is appointed by parliament or elected. All we'd be doing is unplugging the monarchy. You can even keep the term "the crown" in a figurative, Canadian way.
Rentahamster
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Aside from the celebrity aspect, I don't understand the fuss over the concept of having royalty around nowadays.
Spaced Harrier
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Fantastic piece, read it today in work.
Apart from it being really fucking stupid?
Anyway, let's hope she's considerate and dies on a weekday.
Pancake Mix
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Really fucking stupid to complain about a popular figurehead? Yes, you're right.
He's been waiting his whole life for it. He's not going to step aside.
CyclopsRock
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St Leonard's Warrior Square has fallen!
I read this this morning, it was fascinating. I'm a fan of the monarchy.
Irrelevant anachronism.
Liz popping her clogs is a good opportunity to wind the whole nonsense up. It's been going on far too long.
So what ? Is he blind ? Does he not realize how dull he is ?
Man I feel like Charles coronation is gonna be the biggest bomba in the history of the british monarchy.
He's British.
Kidding.
The ceremony itself will be fine. His reign, though, will be nothing more than a glorified ribbon cutter.
civilstrife
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Yeah but what do you say if London Bridge is really down
phisheep
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Should be Mornington Crescent
lastplayed
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Well it might shock you to know there were kings before the middle ages, and after! etc.
SomeRandomWeirdGuy
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I don't understand people getting so butthurt about the existence of monarchies. I'm American and I love em. They're such a wonderful piece of cultural history that can do a lot of good and really not much harm if they're like Britain's. Hell, didn't the previous King of Spain play a big role in the dismantling of the dictatorship?
Being Portuguese, I was saddened to learn that ours had been assassinated in the early 1900s. I think some of the House still lives but they don't have a formal position or something.
Being Portuguese, I was saddened to learn that ours had been assassinated in the early 1900s. I think some of the House still lives but they don't have a formal position or something.
InfiniteBento
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It must be super weird for the Queen to read about a country planning for her death
gutter_trash
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the worst part of is that they repalced the real Portuguese colors on the flag (Blue & White) with the the partisan colors of the Republican Party (Green & Red)
To me, Blue & White will always be the true colors of Portugal. Not that Green & Red political crap
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King Juan Carlos of Spain (was restored prior to Franco's death) was key at avoiding Spain falling into another Civil War after Franco's death.
killer rin
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That would be the easiest way to deal with it. And if people have a problem with there being no "King/Queen" we could just rename the role of Governor General to "King/Queen" and continue to have them be appointed/elected every x years
I would imagine that she would be at the head of these discussions. I mean if you had unlimited money and global acclaim why wouldn't you help plan out the aftermath of your death.
And republics, every single person has the chance to be President? lol
half of the republics in the world are hereditary. Crowned Republics. Republics are more palatable than monarchies to the layman. Far easier to become dictatorships. Far less accountability. That is all.
not what I was expecting from the thread title.
was thinking something a bit more proactive and surprise attacky.
but this was a relief.
I just assume the entire country is hiding today's newspapers from her.
was thinking something a bit more proactive and surprise attacky.
but this was a relief.
I just assume the entire country is hiding today's newspapers from her.
Stallion Dan
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How is the Queen seen in Commonwealth states anyway? Still liked? Ever liked?
Captain Chaos
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She is 90 and looks like she is in great shape. She could easily make it to 110.
Aren't most of the rest of them just waiting for her to pop the clogs to wipe their hands of the whole royal shebang? (excluding of course the 2/3rd of them who've already done so)
Once she dies there is no automatic next head of the Commonwealth.
CyclopsRock
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You could argue that there's something more predictable about an old woman dying than the UK leaving a political union.
Tal Shiar Agent
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Have the monarchy end with her and the UK become a Republic.
I don't think you understand how much income the monarchy provides for the UK. Tourism due to the royal family is massive, and eliminating the royals would be a major financial error for the country. They bring in vastly more than they cost, and have no influence over government or policy to speak of. There's really no downside to them.
jakonovski
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At least they're not gonna hold a referendum over it.
The principal of a monarchy seems pretty silly and irrelevant in modern society but in terms of actually doing something about it and becoming a republic? I honestly don't see the point right now.
It's super low priority, behind such things as electoral reform and reforming the House of Lords. And there is basically no real demand for it.
If there was a demand for it I could probably get behind such a movement but like the majority of Brits (70%+ I think), currently I'm fine with the status quo.
It's super low priority, behind such things as electoral reform and reforming the House of Lords. And there is basically no real demand for it.
If there was a demand for it I could probably get behind such a movement but like the majority of Brits (70%+ I think), currently I'm fine with the status quo.
QuicheFontaine
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Holy shit :-O
The amount of tourism due to them is vastly overstated. Furthermore, they do have influence over policy as has been demonstrated by Charles's leaked letters to ministers, although those were admittedly largely over minor issues. They also own a fantastic amount of these islands,both in land and property quite apart from what they get on the civil list.
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