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Oppenheimer Premiere First Reactions

DKehoe

Gold Member
I'm struggling to think how this film can be THAT compelling, we already know the outcomes and none of it is bad (well, aside from some Japanese cities). So any threat of atmospheric ignition, nazi or russian preemptive strikes, assassination, failure to develop the bomb in time to end WW2, etc etc are gonna ring hollow unless you are just clueless about history (or this is actually an alt history tale).

I can't imagine there are many, or any, action scenes unless they show the commando groups attacking the Nazi heavy water plants. Is it actually an espionage story like Breach or the like?

So it's gonna rest solely on the performances of the actors delivering momentous speeches to a swelling orchestral score and probably lots of "countdown to zero" pregnant pauses to stir up manufactured fear/anticipation/anxiety. I like Nolan for intricate plots, tight scripts, and fantastic visuals. But he needs a good foundation and he can certainly go overboard.
I would imagine that it's more character based than action based. Ultimately it's probably not so much about "can America build the bomb before the Germans?" and more about Oppenheimer grappling with his legacy. The title of the book it's adapted from, American Prometheus, maybe gives an idea of where it's going thematically.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
I would imagine that it's more character based than action based. Ultimately it's probably not so much about "can America build the bomb before the Germans?" and more about Oppenheimer grappling with his legacy. The title of the book it's adapted from, American Prometheus, maybe gives an idea of where it's going thematically.
I guess I'm just grappling with the "SEE THIS IN IMAX" aspect of the film for anything other than sweeping vistas of the Southwest and maybe a few sexy shots of old school electronics and a couple explosions.
 
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Deleted member 1159

Unconfirmed Member
Haven't seen a movie in IMAX since Pacific Rim, about to change with this one...
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
Yes, tenet wasnt a masterpiece, but
I think it is.

And Denis Villeneuve thinks so too:

“I was blown away by ‘Tenet,’ I think it’s a masterpiece,” Villeneuve said. “I think it’s a movie that’s an incredible cinematic achievement. I think that it’s a very complex movie, I had so much fun, I saw it several times and each time it was a blast and I think the level of mastery of Christopher Nolan is unmatched.”
 

k_trout

Member
I think it is.

And Denis Villeneuve thinks so too:

“I was blown away by ‘Tenet,’ I think it’s a masterpiece,” Villeneuve said. “I think it’s a movie that’s an incredible cinematic achievement. I think that it’s a very complex movie, I had so much fun, I saw it several times and each time it was a blast and I think the level of mastery of Christopher Nolan is unmatched.”
when I say tenet is my favourite Nolan movie people think I'm having a laugh
 

sankt-Antonio

:^)--?-<
I'm struggling to think how this film can be THAT compelling, we already know the outcomes and none of it is bad (well, aside from some Japanese cities). So any threat of atmospheric ignition, nazi or russian preemptive strikes, assassination, failure to develop the bomb in time to end WW2, etc etc are gonna ring hollow unless you are just clueless about history (or this is actually an alt history tale).

I can't imagine there are many, or any, action scenes unless they show the commando groups attacking the Nazi heavy water plants. Is it actually an espionage story like Breach or the like?

So it's gonna rest solely on the performances of the actors delivering momentous speeches to a swelling orchestral score and probably lots of "countdown to zero" pregnant pauses to stir up manufactured fear/anticipation/anxiety. I like Nolan for intricate plots, tight scripts, and fantastic visuals. But he needs a good foundation and he can certainly go overboard.
People who read LotR before watching the movies, and enjoying them, exist...
 

Chuck Berry

Gold Member
Those first reactions are cringe as fuck.

I feel like at this point it has to be some kind of industry-wide inside joke. This has gone beyond marketing and entered the realm of the surreal.

Isn’t that like 99% of movie “review” tweets nowadays anyway? You can’t take anyone on there seriously so I don’t see why this would be any different 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

j0hnnix

Member
I guess this movie isnt going to bomb...

Come On Please GIF by NBA
 

Spaceman292

Banned
I'm struggling to think how this film can be THAT compelling, we already know the outcomes and none of it is bad (well, aside from some Japanese cities). So any threat of atmospheric ignition, nazi or russian preemptive strikes, assassination, failure to develop the bomb in time to end WW2, etc etc are gonna ring hollow unless you are just clueless about history (or this is actually an alt history tale).

I can't imagine there are many, or any, action scenes unless they show the commando groups attacking the Nazi heavy water plants. Is it actually an espionage story like Breach or the like?

So it's gonna rest solely on the performances of the actors delivering momentous speeches to a swelling orchestral score and probably lots of "countdown to zero" pregnant pauses to stir up manufactured fear/anticipation/anxiety. I like Nolan for intricate plots, tight scripts, and fantastic visuals. But he needs a good foundation and he can certainly go overboard.
If a movie about the founding of Facebook can be compelling, a movie about the birth of the nuclear bomb can probably be compelling too. Or a movie about two asshole magicians having an argument.

I mean I haven't seen the movie yet so you might be right.
 

Alebrije

Member
I'm struggling to think how this film can be THAT compelling, we already know the outcomes and none of it is bad (well, aside from some Japanese cities). So any threat of atmospheric ignition, nazi or russian preemptive strikes, assassination, failure to develop the bomb in time to end WW2, etc etc are gonna ring hollow unless you are just clueless about history (or this is actually an alt history tale).

I can't imagine there are many, or any, action scenes unless they show the commando groups attacking the Nazi heavy water plants. Is it actually an espionage story like Breach or the like?

So it's gonna rest solely on the performances of the actors delivering momentous speeches to a swelling orchestral score and probably lots of "countdown to zero" pregnant pauses to stir up manufactured fear/anticipation/anxiety. I like Nolan for intricate plots, tight scripts, and fantastic visuals. But he needs a good foundation and he can certainly go overboard.
That is the problem with these kind of movies, there will be tons of drama/tense moments because there is little more to tell..but I will watch it for the camera,lighting, scenes..

Nolan can do the same with a lot of historic people like Marie Curie, Nikola Tesla, etc...

I like more original plots like Tenet no matter how crazy they are.
 

DrFigs

Member
Call me a hater, but I'm not a fan of this le quirky chungus science man. Someone should've told him his translation of the Bhagavad Gita was nonsensical and that he shouldn't have sex with his grad students. But I guess I'll see the movie anyway.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
If a movie about the founding of Facebook can be compelling, a movie about the birth of the nuclear bomb can probably be compelling too. Or a movie about two asshole magicians having an argument.

I mean I haven't seen the movie yet so you might be right.
But was ANYONE clamoring to see The Social Network in IMAX? Thats the part I not understanding here. I'm sure Oppenheimer will be a compelling film, but is it a SPECTACLE that merits 70mm IMAX? For what? Sweeping vistas? How many explosions?

I get why MI works for IMAX. Or nature documentaries. But (possibly) dry historic biopics set in the 40's in a desert? It's not lush jungles, colorful tribesmen, or the Battle of Waterloo reenacted in exquisite precision and filmed for maximum effect. I'm sure there is at least one scene in Oppenheimer that whites out the screen and will set off car alarms in the theater parking lot but is that worth 2+ hours of the rest of it?

Guess we will find out in a few more days.
 

Spaceman292

Banned
But was ANYONE clamoring to see The Social Network in IMAX? Thats the part I not understanding here. I'm sure Oppenheimer will be a compelling film, but is it a SPECTACLE that merits 70mm IMAX? For what? Sweeping vistas? How many explosions?

I get why MI works for IMAX. Or nature documentaries. But (possibly) dry historic biopics set in the 40's in a desert? It's not lush jungles, colorful tribesmen, or the Battle of Waterloo reenacted in exquisite precision and filmed for maximum effect. I'm sure there is at least one scene in Oppenheimer that whites out the screen and will set off car alarms in the theater parking lot but is that worth 2+ hours of the rest of it?

Guess we will find out in a few more days.
Hateful Eight was great in IMAX and that movie is just some idiots talking in a room. The worth of an IMAX thing isnt counted in number of explosions. It's about immersion.
 

Men_in_Boxes

Snake Oil Salesman
I don't mean to crap on the OP, but is there anything more useless than "premier first reactions"? They all read "I'll say anything for you as long as you invite me back" to me.
 

Currently at 96% on RottenTomatoes
 

kittoo

Cretinously credulous
While I am definitely happy and excited for Oppenheimer, it's sad to see Mission Impossible getting buried. That movie is going to top out at about 500 million WW gross isn't it? Extremely disappointing that would be.
 
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jason10mm

Gold Member
While I am definitely happy and excited for Oppenheimer, it's sad to see Mission Impossible getting buried. That movie is going to top out at about 500 million WW gross isn't it? Extremely disappointing that would be.
I think MI will do real well overseas and even domestically I don't think Oppenheimer is a direct threat. The loss of imax screens is the only real issue.

As for Barbie, if it is actually good and can trigger the "girls night out" phenomenon of Twilight, then it will do quite well (domestically at least, does Barbie have a strong overseas presence?) and deservedly so.
 

Ulysses 31

Member
While I am definitely happy and excited for Oppenheimer, it's sad to see Mission Impossible getting buried. That movie is going to top out at about 500 million WW gross isn't it? Extremely disappointing that would be.
I do think the part 1 kinda hurts it when you'll have to wait for part 2 in 2024.

Also the AI enemy has some glaring issues when you're a little knowledgeable how computers and programming works.

The dialogues/monologues seems some of the worst in the series.
 
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