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Overwatch |OT8| Our love will last Pharah-ver

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Jellie

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What's in this new update right now? half a gig of something

Not sure. Dva still has 400 armour and Roadhog hook works the same. Guessing Ana is still the same too.
Don't play comp though. You'll get kicked and lost 50SR and be unable to rejoin due to maintenence.
EDIT: Probably putting things in for Chinese New Year?
 

antitrop

Member
Not only is Sombra grossly underpowered but I also find her the least fun character to play. I'd reckon about 50% of my time isn't even engaging enemies, just hacking healthpacks and placing beacons.
Yeah, by time she's hacked the health pack, thrown down the translocator, gone invisible, and made her way to the enemy backline, Tracer would have already killed two people.
 
Yeah, by time she's hacked the health pack, thrown down the translocator, gone invisible, and made her way to the enemy backline, Tracer would have already killed two people.

Yeah I mentioned that a while back. Sombra has to either spend a lot of time to set herself up for getting behind enemy lines or risk getting killed without getting a pick because her mobility is actually garbage in a fight, despite having 2 mobility options.

I really think the only thing she needs is the spread of her gun being reduced - and maybe the "HERE I AM \o/" when she uncloaks removed. Otherwise I think she's fine.

I noticed you had no counter to the "unfun to play" comment though.

That's a subjective argument though.
 
I noticed you had no counter to the "unfun to play" comment though.

What's not fun about her?

You have a long range escape, the ability to throw off coordination via hacking, and an amazing ult that can decide teamfights easily.

I think she really just needs to be able to hack slightly faster, even with a longer cooldown, and then she needs less spread / more DPS on her SMG and she'd be so good.

*edit* Lol, two people said the same thing within a minute of each other. I see you.
 

jviggy43

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Sombra's ability to get her EMP so quickly is huge for levels like Anubis/Eich where it essentially shuts down the defending teams ability to stronghold the choke point. Although this only really works well if you have a team pushing when you do it and organized around it;whereas someone else stated, tracer would likely have already picked up a kill or two. Are people wanting a buff to her damage or to something else? She seems like the type of character that could become super OP if they buff something too much.
 
I noticed you had no counter to the "unfun to play" comment though.
I mean, fun is subjective. If you told me tomorrow I could only play one Overwatch hero ever again, I'd think long and hard between Sombra, Genji and Zarya. And then probably pick Sombra.

She is fun because when you're flowing your cooldowns properly it feels like a highwire act where no one can touch you, and you're causing them to freak the fuck out and delay their push. And then just when they start to get a hold on the situation, ¡Apagando las luces!, triple kill.

Only Genji and Tracer compare for the ability to just bully a support until they quit.
 
I edited into my earlier post but I still think the fact Sombra announces herself when uncloaking is dumb.
Like, I get it from a gameplay perspective - stealth is really unfun to play against, and making her say something when uncloaking helps players to not just get shot from out of nowhere and die to someone they literally didn't see coming.

That said, what kind of infiltrator throws off their cover and yells "HEY GUYS IT'S ME SOMBRA I JUST INFILTRATED YOUR BACKLINES SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO TURN AROUND"
 

Apathy

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Not only is Sombra grossly underpowered but I also find her the least fun character to play. I'd reckon about 50% of my time isn't even engaging enemies, just hacking healthpacks and placing beacons.

That's the same reasoning that got us in the meta we're in with ana
 

jviggy43

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I think Sombra is a blast to play as so long as you understand youre unlikely to get guaranteed picks so much as youre disrupting.
 

caesar

Banned
Lol guys Sombras strength is how fast she gets ult. If you buff her damage she will be disgusting and then you will all be pining for nerfs again as she uzis down your helpless team.

I'm fine with Genji being powerful, 99% of players cant play him anyway. Its the other way round for Soldier.
 
That said, what kind of infiltrator throws off their cover and yells "HEY GUYS IT'S ME SOMBRA I JUST INFILTRATED YOUR BACKLINES SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO TURN AROUND"

KONO SOMBRA DA!

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I edited into my earlier post but I still think the fact Sombra announces herself when uncloaking is dumb.
Like, I get it from a gameplay perspective - stealth is really unfun to play against, and making her say something when uncloaking helps players to not just get shot from out of nowhere and die to someone they literally didn't see coming.

That said, what kind of infiltrator throws off their cover and yells "HEY GUYS IT'S ME SOMBRA I JUST INFILTRATED YOUR BACKLINES SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO TURN AROUND"
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Lol guys Sombras strength is how fast she gets ult. If you buff her damage she will be disgusting and then you will all be pining for nerfs again as she uzis down your helpless team.

I'm fine with Genji being powerful, 99% of players cant play him anyway. Its the other way round for Soldier.
Then lower her ult charge rate to compensate? The point still stands that her ult is only useful on organised teams and even a lot of high level teams aren't using her because she's not worth it in her current form.
 
Lol guys Sombras strength is how fast she gets ult. If you buff her damage she will be disgusting and then you will all be pining for nerfs again as she uzis down your helpless team.

I'm fine with Genji being powerful, 99% of players cant play him anyway. Its the other way round for Soldier.
I agree with genji/soldier and I'm not even asking for gun buffs. In fact I've said in the past her gun doesn't need any buff at all.

But until they do basic quality of life things like increase the translocator time slightly, giving speed boost as soon as you turn invis, not being kicked out of invis just for pressing the hack button and being able to hack while taking damage she'll remain my least favorite character in the game.

I can have fun with pretty much every hero in the game except for her and it's because of weird limitations.
 

antitrop

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EMP is like the most suicidal Ult in the game. Pretty sure I've seen more Sombras die immediately after EMP'ing than Pharahs during Missile Barrage, even.

I was playing Zen last night and had Sombra EMP us. I was the only one that died on my team, and then her team got team wiped. That is what I see in games more often than not.
 

ohkay

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I think the teamplay aspect would come with EMP if more people actually saw Sombra in a game. It's just like graviton, blizzard, etc., which people don't really have a problem coordinating with in a semi-casual setting
 
I think the teamplay aspect would come with EMP if more people actually saw Sombra in a game. It's just like graviton, blizzard, etc., which people don't really have a problem coordinating with in a semi-casual setting
both of those lock the enemy in place tho, and that still doesn't answer why she isn't used at the pro level

anyway
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Sp3eD

0G M3mbeR
Soooooooooo I thought the Mei glitch was fixed... why did somebody just use it against me to win a 3 v 1 match.
 
Any keybind suggestions? General or hero specific. Just started pc version of the game yesterday and fumbled with the controls after many many hours of ps4 play. Using an OG G400 Logitech mouse
 

antitrop

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Any keybind suggestions? General or hero specific. Just started pc version of the game yesterday and fumbled with the controls after many many hours of ps4 play.
I use default bindings on every single character, except Zen. And for Zen all I did was move Discord Orb to right-click and Alt-Fire to Mouse 5.
 
So you guys use ~ for mic? Seems a bit inconvenient to use right now, maybe I'll adjust

key bindings don't really matter much. the only real difference i think i have is binding pharah's concussion missile to right click.

Nice, yea I played her and e felt weird for the mine. Assuming you just use spacebar for hovering?
 

Jellie

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EMP is like the most suicidal Ult in the game. Pretty sure I've seen more Sombras die immediately after EMP'ing than Pharahs during Missile Barrage, even.

I was playing Zen last night and had Sombra EMP us. I was the only one that died on my team, and then her team got team wiped. That is what I see in games more often than not.
I would say Rez is. You end up dead way more often since you got nobody to protect you usually and have to go in to the middle of the enemy. With pharah you might have a zarya bubbling you or element of surprise.
So you guys use ~ for mic? Seems a bit inconvenient to use right now, maybe I'll adjust



Nice, yea I played her and e felt weird for the mine. Assuming you just use spacebar for hovering?

I changed mine to one of the side buttons on my mouse. Quick melee is also on one of the side buttons too.
 
I put Melee and Crouch on on the mouse binds G4 and G5. On logitech g402

I found it easier to press and do in combat, especially crouch spam, but not sure if it will help
 

Skii

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A lot of heroes aren't being used at the pro level right now

And that's because Ana, Dva and Roadhog are stupidly overpowered.

Everyone needs to calm down about asking for nerfs/buffs until we see how the new nerfs actually affect the balance of the game. When the new nerfs/buffs hits live, let's give it a week or two before we address other heroes.
 
And that's because Ana, Dva and Roadhog are stupidly overpowered.

Everyone needs to calm down about asking for nerfs/buffs until we see how the new nerfs actually affect the balance of the game. When the new nerfs/buffs hits live, let's give it a week or two before we address other heroes.

Well at least we'll know D.Va's going straight to F-tier.
 
Damn 6 pages already, only just finished catching up with the other OT, so glad to see Zen getting love again, he's the coolest character no doubt.
 

NeoRaider

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EMP is like the most suicidal Ult in the game. Pretty sure I've seen more Sombras die immediately after EMP'ing than Pharahs during Missile Barrage, even.

I was playing Zen last night and had Sombra EMP us. I was the only one that died on my team, and then her team got team wiped. That is what I see in games more often than not.

Spill that tea. Same experience.
 

Paltheos

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EMP's a good ult but it works best in specific circumstances. Like, say, you're on a payload map, and both teams have Rein, and your Rein has Earthshatter. Call out that you'll EMP them so Rein Earthshatter, invis run behind their ranks, translocate above, EMP, watch hopefully most of their team get stunned by Earthshatter, and wipe.

I guess this is all pretty obvious, but what's clear is that you need more coordination than other disable ults like Blizzard to wipe out the enemy team.
 

NeoRaider

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Ana is such a good counter for Pharah now that Pharah can fly like a bird.

The irony... mother being the best at killing her daughter... RIP.
 
I love how you can always hear Zens voice standout from the rest of the cast, it can't just be me imagining things right? I can always here a Zen in action, be it him shouting 'Behind you', saying 'Peace be upon you' or even just shooting things.
 

Akuun

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Any keybind suggestions? General or hero specific. Just started pc version of the game yesterday and fumbled with the controls after many many hours of ps4 play. Using an OG G400 Logitech mouse

I prefer to put push to talk and melee on mouse side buttons. If you have another convenient button, I sometimes have one for weapon switching too.
 
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