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Ozark season 4 part 2 trailer. The final episodes.

clem84

Gold Member
Any fans of Ozarks in here?

They've already announced season 4 will be the last one. 7 episodes to go.

Also, the writers as well as Jason Bateman said it will be satisfying and bring closure to the story.

***** There are spoilers in there *****

 
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Little Mac

Member
Excited Season 9 GIF by Friends
 
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I think my top five are

Parks and Rec
Breaking Bad
Deadwood
Ozark
Arrested Development

Huge Ozark fan. Can’t wait to see how it ends.

Any time I see a tamale I think of Buddy ❤️
 

sankt-Antonio

:^)--?-<
Imo the show should have been max two seasons long, the constant raising of stakes is just unbelievable at some point - going in circles, meh. Could not continue any further after a certain point.
 

n0razi

Member
I was enjoying "Ozark" but after binging the last season of "Better Call Saul", I've come to realize that I absolutely loathe almost every character in Ozark from the entire Byrd family to the Cartel boss, to all the supporting characters; they are all self serving doofuses. This is in stark contrast to BCS where I genuinely care about almost every character (from Jimmy and Kim to even the bad guys like Lalo and Nacho) as they all seem more relatable and have moxie.
 
Love the show. Haven't watched the newest episodes. I didn't know that it was a split season on the last season and it was a kick in the nuts finding out I had to wait.
 

BlueAlpaca

Member
Wow just finished it - great ending!

I was getting burned out on the show at the end, good thing they didn't add more seasons and run it into the ground, but the ending made up for it.

RUUUUUUTH!!!!!! :messenger_loudly_crying:

How many fucking cartel operatives do you have to kill before you pack your money and run.

And Mel was truly innocent and a good person, to have his blood on Jonah's hands was a great way to show that they could never be clean. His death is as much of a tragedy as Ben's, though not as powerful - Ben's arc was fucking heart rending. The Byrdes destroyed their family and lots of lives, including innocent ones, for money and power. I sympathize with them but also fuck 'em.


I finished the last episodes right after I killed sword saint Isshin, the hardest boss In a game I ever played. So I was on a high when I was watching the episode and really wanted a happy ending but of course that wouldn't happen. It was bittersweet, great ending to a great show but also depressing.
 
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OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
Fantastic show. One of my favorites. I'm working through season 3 right now so I won't watch this trailer. Netflix trailers tend to be spoilery.
 
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Kev Kev

Member
spoilers for the end of the first episode of season 4 part 2

fuck yeah ruthy! was so happy to see her kill that mfer. she deserved that revenge and i hope wendy is that one who pays for it. in fact i hope ruth winds up killing wendy. someone shoot for fucks sake, that crazy bitch has got it comin

just finished episode 2, maybe 3? cant remember but shit is starting to get crazy. seeing Tom Pelphry (Ben) for the extra scene was really great. that guy is a good fuckin actor. id like to see him in more stuff in the future. his portrayal of that character and his mental health problems was captivating, he deserved gettting that last scene and man did he deliver.

really lookin forward to the rest

edit: also can i say i really really really love the idea of shows keeping it to 4 or 5 seasons? not too long, not too short. i really love that. makes it so i can actually go back and watch it one day without feeling like its a daunting task consisting of 200 hours of tv show to watch. breaking bad is still the standard imo. 5 seasons, 8-10 episodes, 1 hour each, is pretty much perfect
 
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Kev Kev

Member
I was enjoying "Ozark" but after binging the last season of "Better Call Saul", I've come to realize that I absolutely loathe almost every character in Ozark from the entire Byrd family to the Cartel boss, to all the supporting characters; they are all self serving doofuses. This is in stark contrast to BCS where I genuinely care about almost every character (from Jimmy and Kim to even the bad guys like Lalo and Nacho) as they all seem more relatable and have moxie.
Well said. BCS is an amazing show with insanely good writing and acting. I just finished season 5, can’t wait to check out 6. It’s setting up to be a direct prequel to breaking bad, but it’s also wildly different from BB in terms of tone and plot points, so it is completely it’s own thing. Bob Odenkirk is phenomenal.
 

Kev Kev

Member
Not really sure what they were thinking with the last scene.
All it took for Jonah to become OK with murder was surviving a motor vehicle accident? That type of transformation requires a lot more character development than what they squeezed into this episode.

Yeah there is a lot going on in those last few scenes that I don’t like. This show could have had a much better ending. But tbh, the entire em series has has been really angular, unbelievable and just full of those out of left field moments. The pacing has kind of been all over the place and the plot points were just head scratching bizarre at times. So I guess the ending fits in with that same head scratching feeling. It’s like the writers had no idea where they were going with the plot for the entirety of the show lol.it’s like they just sat around a writing table and periodically said “hey you know what would be cool…?” then ran with it and picked up the pieces later. But now the shows over and there is no more picking up pieces, so… 🤷‍♂️

It was a fun ride nine the less and I’ll be glad to watch it again one day. Good show and they kept it short, so I’m happy about that.
 
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BlueAlpaca

Member
Not really sure what they were thinking with the last scene.
All it took for Jonah to become OK with murder was surviving a motor vehicle accident? That type of transformation requires a lot more character development than what they squeezed into this episode.

It should have been Wendy that killed him. I would have preferred it though for Mel to take them down, and maybe Wendy kill herself.
 

Catphish

Member
I'm not reading any of this. Just wanted to pop in and say I started this series the other night. I've only seen the first two episodes but, so far, so good. (y)
 

Kev Kev

Member
It should have been Wendy that killed him. I would have preferred it though for Mel to take them down, and maybe Wendy kill herself.
Lol same

I wanted them to not kill off Ruth and definitely kill off Wendy annnnnd they did the exact opposite. I mean yeah sure they subverted expectations, but did it honestly make the show/ending better? I don’t think so. What is it with TV shows and just never being able to stick the landing? Very few have done it right.
 
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Man, what an absolute wet fart of a finale, it's almost like they tried to replicate the
Sopranos' one - not in the ambiguity department 'cause Johnna most definitely shoots the dude "but with the whole "fade to black thing/hey what the fuck just happened®".


Also : they tried to cram up so much shit in the last episodes trying to wrap-up (?) the whole thing and even then, the thing still felt unfinished, it reminded me the finale/final season of Boardwalk empire where everything felt rushed, i just don't know...

Agree with a poster above that said that unfortunately, most shows end like this.

Thank God it's over 'cause i can't imagine stretching the whole thing over 2-3 more seasons
 
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bitbydeath

Gold Member
Not really sure what they were thinking with the last scene.
All it took for Jonah to become OK with murder was surviving a motor vehicle accident? That type of transformation requires a lot more character development than what they squeezed into this episode.
That wasn’t his first kill.
 

bitbydeath

Gold Member
I enjoyed it, am glad
it didn’t end on the car crash scene.

I think they should have
included the call to put the hit out on Camila, but I imagine they would have.
 

Salz01

Member
Man this has been one of my favourite shows for years but that last batch of episodes something felt off right from the beginning, I don't even know what to say about the ending...
The first seven, were great. Then the last seven, just seemed to be off. Not sure to spoiler tag, but it doesn’t leave a satisfied ending.
 

DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
I feel pretty strongly Ozark is one of the more overrated shows in recent memory. Overrated in that it's still good and entertaining, but I've seen so many people put this in god tier shows and it isn't even remotely close IMO. It tries so extraordinarily hard to be Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul, and it just isn't. Even down to the characters. It was so over the top it got too hard to take seriously at all. I started LOLing at several parts it was just beyond absurd. But it was still entertaining. Didn't like how they ended it, but didn't really hate it either. I really didn't care about any characters in particular by the end, they were all dirtbags. And not a single person in that town was normal lol. Everyone was either corrupt or dealing/selling drugs.
 

Dr.Guru of Peru

played the long game
That wasn’t his first kill.
then what was? not really sure killing a deer is the same thing. He didn’t kill the narco threatening his family in s1, but even if he did that’s pretty different from killing a cop. It was completely out of character.
 

bitbydeath

Gold Member
then what was? not really sure killing a deer is the same thing. He didn’t kill the narco threatening his family in s1, but even if he did that’s pretty different from killing a cop. It was completely out of character.
I don’t think it’s out of character, he also threatened Helen at gun point recently too.
 

DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
The one thing I couldn't get over with this show no matter how much I tried even though I know it's just TV and just for fun.

The "biggest cartel in the world" just sends around one guy in an SUV every time they need something done. It's always one guy. It was either Javi or the enforcer guy. Not how cartels work lol. And cartels are fucking huge. Their cartel back at Navarro's place was like 10 people and some random white dude they barely know was sent there to "run the cartel" and keep the books lmao. Ummm... no. He would've been shot dead the second he stepped foot on the premesis. Cartels go through extraordinary measures to stay atop and they're ruthless. They going to allow Jason Bateman to just waltz in and run shit. Was the dumbest thing ever. And direct the interrogation sessions. Their portrayal of the biggest cartel in existence was closer to some low level mob family than a fucking cartel.
 

BlueAlpaca

Member
The one thing I couldn't get over with this show no matter how much I tried even though I know it's just TV and just for fun.

The "biggest cartel in the world" just sends around one guy in an SUV every time they need something done. It's always one guy. It was either Javi or the enforcer guy. Not how cartels work lol. And cartels are fucking huge. Their cartel back at Navarro's place was like 10 people and some random white dude they barely know was sent there to "run the cartel" and keep the books lmao. Ummm... no. He would've been shot dead the second he stepped foot on the premesis. Cartels go through extraordinary measures to stay atop and they're ruthless. They going to allow Jason Bateman to just waltz in and run shit. Was the dumbest thing ever. And direct the interrogation sessions. Their portrayal of the biggest cartel in existence was closer to some low level mob family than a fucking cartel.

There are a lot of silly and implausible things in this show. I don't take it seriously, it's just entertainment. It's not like all the other TV shows are logical and realistic. Not that many better options unfortunately.
 

DeaDPo0L84

Member
This was Mass Effect 3 levels of fail when it came to how the show ended. Me and my wife who have enjoyed the show pretty evenly throughout and were invested enough to binge watch the back half of the final season in one day literally just turned off the tv when it ended, it was like a wet fart.
 
This was Mass Effect 3 levels of fail when it came to how the show ended. Me and my wife who have enjoyed the show pretty evenly throughout and were invested enough to binge watch the back half of the final season in one day literally just turned off the tv when it ended, it was like a wet fart.
When I thought about it more I was fine with it.
The other options of either Byrdes in Jail, Byrdes dying, or some sort of witness protection plan would have been cliche and expected.
Instead you get an ending where realistically you can absolutely see them getting a Hulu or HBO documentary years later describing
how they got away with it.

dude seriously. everything they built up with that character just to do that. smh. and for no reason!

I liked that the character went out that way. I may have not enjoyed how they've rushed into it a bit, but that sort of death reminded me of The Wire. The Wire was amazing in showing that not every character gets to have a complete story arc.
 
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lol jk. yeah i didnt like it at all. they deserved a better, happier ending imo
Yea I mean I get it. A lot of people compared the character we're talking about to Jesse from Breaking Bad. I guess after certain character deaths from The Wire, especially
Omar
I've gotten accustomed to that way of a story telling you sometimes things aren't as neatly wrapped up.

On a side note, I've always liked this version of the 'STFU' gif:

wanted-stfu.gif
 
Not really sure what they were thinking with the last scene.
All it took for Jonah to become OK with murder was surviving a motor vehicle accident? That type of transformation requires a lot more character development than what they squeezed into this episode.
Agreed.

I didn't even really take the finale seriously by the end. Felt like the show ran out of time and money and they just wanted to end it on an ironic, almost cheesy, traditional TV ending to subvert expectations. Like, what is the ending people will never expect? A traditional happy ending. Nearly every character showed up on the same night for a little cameo. Everyone got dressed up. Everyone got to say they love each other in the family and Marty seemed to heal his marriage. And then it just kind of ends on a cheesy note saying that they won and got everything they wanted finally.

Not nearly the dark and shocking ending I was expecting. It's my favorite show ever on Netflix, but the ending felt rushed and wasn't very good. Oh well. Pretty much the only bad episode in the whole show was the last one.
 
Agreed.

I didn't even really take the finale seriously by the end. Felt like the show ran out of time and money and they just wanted to end it on an ironic, almost cheesy, traditional TV ending to subvert expectations. Like, what is the ending people will never expect? A traditional happy ending. Nearly every character showed up on the same night for a little cameo. Everyone got dressed up. Everyone got to say they love each other in the family and Marty seemed to heal his marriage. And then it just kind of ends on a cheesy note saying that they won and got everything they wanted finally.

Not nearly the dark and shocking ending I was expecting. It's my favorite show ever on Netflix, but the ending felt rushed and wasn't very good. Oh well. Pretty much the only bad episode in the whole show was the last one.
I agree with the part about the cameos. That was a little too much. However, if you consider the Byrdes as the villain of the story, which many people do, and which one could argue they slowly changed into that role a season ago or more(especially Wendy), then this wasn't a traditional happy ending at all. 'Says who?' might as well have been towards those viewers saying 'You lose'. The traditional happy ending people wanted was for Marty and his kids to make it out of the situation with their conscience still intact, or for the Byrdes to finally encounter justice.

Instead it feels more like the PS2/PS3 God of War series where the main character who was originally coerced into a situation because he was great at what he did, ended up killing everyone around him including all of the gods, due to his involvement. By the end of GoW 3, the game made you end up feeling and thinking Kratos was the biggest piece of shit, as big as the people who betrayed him or maybe more.

The Byrdes rolled into town and made a giant mess with a massive body count that just kept increasing with everything they did, all while trying to put up a facade and pretend to still be innocent until the very end, putting the blame on everyone else but themselves and their own impulsive actions. Like I've said above, they're the people in a documentary you'd watch years from now. Wolves successfully pretending to be sheep for years and no one's the wiser.
 
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VN1X

Banned
Just saw the last episode and... oof. I mean there were a lot of implausible things throughout the show but during the final ep I kept wondering if it was in fact, the last one. It felt like they wrote themselves into a corner and just wanted to be done with it.

Meh, overall I enjoyed the show and I wouldn't be surprised if we ever get a movie out of it but I think the last episode was really poor.
 

Catphish

Member
Finished this the other night. Watched the full series in about 3 weeks.

It started out very, very strong, but, like most series seem to do, it got more and more implausible, dipping straight into outright ridiculous, as time went on. By the time it wrapped up, I was glad it was finally fucking over.

I didn't like how any of the character arcs completed, didn't like how the story ultimately resolved. I also didn't like how joyless and bleak it was. I felt like I needed a shower and a therapy session after every episode.

The acting was strong for the most part (with Ruth's entire performance and Ben's final appearance being the absolute standouts), but it wasn't enough to salvage the overall experience for me.

In a way, it's a lot like The Last of Us Part II, which I'm currently playing through. It's overdrawn, bleak, preposterous, with few, if any, truly likeable characters, and something I look(ed) forward to completing, rather than engaging with.

Ultimately, it was a numbing, depressing slog, and I was happy to put it behind me. If given the chance to go back in time, I think I would skip it altogether.

4/10 (n)
 

jonnyp

Member
Finished this the other night. Watched the full series in about 3 weeks.

It started out very, very strong, but, like most series seem to do, it got more and more implausible, dipping straight into outright ridiculous, as time went on. By the time it wrapped up, I was glad it was finally fucking over.

I didn't like how any of the character arcs completed, didn't like how the story ultimately resolved. I also didn't like how joyless and bleak it was. I felt like I needed a shower and a therapy session after every episode.

The acting was strong for the most part (with Ruth's entire performance and Ben's final appearance being the absolute standouts), but it wasn't enough to salvage the overall experience for me.

In a way, it's a lot like The Last of Us Part II, which I'm currently playing through. It's overdrawn, bleak, preposterous, with few, if any, truly likeable characters, and something I look(ed) forward to completing, rather than engaging with.

Ultimately, it was a numbing, depressing slog, and I was happy to put it behind me. If given the chance to go back in time, I think I would skip it altogether.

4/10 (n)

Spot on.
 

Kev Kev

Member
Finished this the other night. Watched the full series in about 3 weeks.

It started out very, very strong, but, like most series seem to do, it got more and more implausible, dipping straight into outright ridiculous, as time went on. By the time it wrapped up, I was glad it was finally fucking over.

I didn't like how any of the character arcs completed, didn't like how the story ultimately resolved. I also didn't like how joyless and bleak it was. I felt like I needed a shower and a therapy session after every episode.

The acting was strong for the most part (with Ruth's entire performance and Ben's final appearance being the absolute standouts), but it wasn't enough to salvage the overall experience for me.

In a way, it's a lot like The Last of Us Part II, which I'm currently playing through. It's overdrawn, bleak, preposterous, with few, if any, truly likeable characters, and something I look(ed) forward to completing, rather than engaging with.

Ultimately, it was a numbing, depressing slog, and I was happy to put it behind me. If given the chance to go back in time, I think I would skip it altogether.

4/10 (n)
yep, nailed it.

ruth and ben were phenomenal, especially bens mental breakdown scenes. tom pelphry did an exceptionally good job as ben and straight up deserves an award for those scenes. julia garner as well, just a standout job all around and by far my favorite character on the show. the way they did her not only sucks as a viewer, but it hardly makes sense from any stand point. it was so pointless.

and yeah just pretty much everything you said. terrible ending, but at leas we can move on and forget about it now.

i really look forward to see more garner and pelphry in other shows and movies. discovering them two is the silver lining of the whole thing for me.
 
yep, nailed it.

ruth and ben were phenomenal, especially bens mental breakdown scenes. tom pelphry did an exceptionally good job as ben and straight up deserves an award for those scenes. julia garner as well, just a standout job all around and by far my favorite character on the show. the way they did her not only sucks as a viewer, but it hardly makes sense from any stand point. it was so pointless.

and yeah just pretty much everything you said. terrible ending, but at leas we can move on and forget about it now.

i really look forward to see more garner and pelphry in other shows and movies. discovering them two is the silver lining of the whole thing for me.

Kev, Tom Pelphry is also on Amazon's Outer Range alongside Josh brolin (and Imogen Proooots) and they're all amazeballs ;)
Show's preeeety good if you're into "weird"/mystery stuff.
cheers

PS : trailer if anyone's interested
 
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hollams

Gold Member
I actually liked the ending, but thought they should have done one more thing to make it even better.

When Ruth asked who gave her up the lady should have said Marty which would have crushed her even more.

I do agree the longer it ran the more forgiving you had to be of the crazy plots, but honestly there are very few shows that are always logical.
 
WTF at that ending? lol

At the very least I thought
Marty was either going to kill Wendy or set her up for some crazy fall. She’s the most dispicable character in TV. At least Ruth went out like a badass.
 

Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Not reading anything in this thread just wanted to pop in and say Ozark Season 3 is one or the best seasons of television I’ve seen. Holy shit.

On to Season 4.
 

G-Bus

Banned
Finished it last night.

Wife and I just kind of sat there confused without saying a word as the credits rolled.

She didn't believe that was the last episode. Like end of the show last episode. Not just the last episode to the season.

I enjoyed the first 3 seasons.

Still can't believe they killed
Ruth and Wendy got her family and husband back

Fucking stupid way to end it. Fuck.
 
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