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Palantir, the next big tech stock?

joe_zazen

Member
I got a nice surprise today, $pltr has had three big spikes in the last 3 months, from $10 to $30. There is going to be a post ipo dip when inside shares are unlocked in dec/jan. you might want to jeep an eye on it. Depending on their next income statement, could be very nice.

anyone else have some ‘next tesla’ stocks in their portfolio they want to share?
 
It isn't a stock, but its the best performing asset of all time.. Start averaging into Bitcoin and I bet you won't regret it in the next 2~ years
 
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hariseldon

Unconfirmed Member
First rule of shitcoins. Never buy shitcoins. Second rule of shitcoins. If you do stupidly buy a shitcoin, don't expect it to last. Pump and dump. Every single fucking one of them does that. I say this as someone who paid for a new kitchen with bitcoin profits.
 

joe_zazen

Member
It isn't a stock, but its the best performing asset of all time.. Start averaging into Bitcoin and I bet you won't regret it in the next 2~ years

feds have floated new reg ideas, euro is looking into digital currency, and iirc fb has one coming out next year...very volatile. otoh paypal is going to implement bt payments, so who knows.
 
feds have floated new reg ideas, euro is looking into digital currency, and iirc fb has one coming out next year...very volatile. otoh paypal is going to implement bt payments, so who knows.
Just because they digitalize the euro doesn't matter. All countries will eventually do this, it doesn't change the fact that they can create as many of these digital euros as they want.

Digitalizing fiat currency on a blockchain does not fix the underlying issue. Stay away from shitcoins, Bitcoin is king!
 

Weiji

Banned
Bought 50 shares at 9.95 on a whim. Should have bought calls... could have been a millionaire.
 
Man bitcoin is the worst asset class I have ever seen. It really highlights the ass in assets
The part where you don't explain any of your reasoning on how you came to that conclusion really shows how much you have looked into the asset class; to me it seems like you are throwing Bitcoin into the same group as every other cryptocurrency out there.
 

IntentionalPun

Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Got in at $28.50 for 100 shares. I think it'll go down to $20 but I told my guy that I'm good at $23.
 

ManofOne

Plus Member
The part where you don't explain any of your reasoning on how you came to that conclusion really shows how much you have looked into the asset class; to me it seems like you are throwing Bitcoin into the same group as every other cryptocurrency out there.

Nothing about Bitcoin suggests its a stable asset class. The surge in 2017-2018 was proven to be manipulated, the CFTC has an excellent report on this.

Wash Trading was and is still a very real practice amongst Bitcoin and most cryptocurrencies. The Dept of Justice have open investigations by the largest bitcoin holders.

So I reiterate, Bitcoin puts the ass in assets.
 
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hariseldon

Unconfirmed Member
It is indeed a heavily-manipulated asset class. Bitcoin isn't as bad as the shitcoins simply because it has vastly more trading volume and isn't under centralised control - most shitcoins are mostly owned by the creators who will then manipulate markets for their own gain. Basically I'll just about tolerate ETH as a not-quite-shitcoin, BTC is solid if you know what you're dealing with, but the rest are absolute garbage. I made money, got my kitchen, got out and I don't mind missing this run.
 

BigBooper

Member
I got in at 23 and out at 30. I'm good with riding the wave of these meme stocks, but I get out when I've made a good profit. Making a lot of liquid available for Roblox in a few weeks now.
 
Anyone going in on recent IPO waves e.g. AirBNB, DoorDash, Roblox etc? Seems they're pushing for preXMAS IPOs. Do you think they're going to rise and then fall or be worth short term gains vs long term?
 

BigBooper

Member
I'm going to try to get in early on Roblox and DoorDash. AirBNB seems risky to me.

With how many people are out of work, I'm betting a ton of homes will be going on the market next year, plus travel is still going to be down probably at least partway through summer. Next year might be time to get into real estate instead if you can afford to buy rental property.
 

12Goblins

Lil’ Gobbie
I got in at 23 and out at 30. I'm good with riding the wave of these meme stocks, but I get out when I've made a good profit. Making a lot of liquid available for Roblox in a few weeks now.

Prob gona be kicking urself like those kicking themselves now for selling Tesla : p
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
I got in at 23 and out at 30. I'm good with riding the wave of these meme stocks, but I get out when I've made a good profit. Making a lot of liquid available for Roblox in a few weeks now.
It's all about momo now with EV and vaccines and various software/cloud/analytics companies.

Fundamentals are basically zero.

I made money with some EV junk, made a quick 20% on Trivago (dumped it today after buying it last week), and even made a bit on Pfizer. I've never been a day or week flipper but it's working. Even made cash buying and dumping the "vaccines will be good" for junk like Cineplex theatres. I think I held it for two days.

It may or may not be too late but aside from EV car companies look into SPACs looking to buy/merge with EV component/battery suppliers. Many of them. And many doubled lately.

I rolled the dice on RMG. I'm up 8% since Friday and don't give a shit if this company is legit or not. I'm just hoping it pops $10 like other ones have doing their merger stuff and I'm out.

I made good money on LI and KNDI and they have both dropped back to where I dumped them weeks ago. I might get back in. Look for KNDI. It just got thrashed with Hindenberg short analysis which is 90% of the time BS. They claim KNDI is a sham and has fake sales selling cars to itself and booking fake sales. I might back into KNDI this week hoping it rebounds and the claims are BS.
 
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Slayer-33

Liverpool-2
RMG, NIO (Tensions between China - US atm = careful) because of the whole de-listing saber rattling and recent big run up might not be the best time to be in it. Weed stocks are making their lil run atm, dunno for how long.

Market as a whole is a bit nutty as we all might have noticed.

Won't be holding anything very soon, only have some open calls for Feb 19th on Nio @ $55 strike and holding some RMG.
 
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ManofOne

Plus Member
“Shareholders are betting on Palantir's success in completing the digging of a wide moat. The less anticipatory investors may want to wait until such a moat becomes reality.”
I’m the latter the company has ZERO moat. If your buying the stock ur just a venture capitalist at this point.
 

BigBooper

Member
“Shareholders are betting on Palantir's success in completing the digging of a wide moat. The less anticipatory investors may want to wait until such a moat becomes reality.”
I’m the latter the company has ZERO moat. If your buying the stock ur just a venture capitalist at this point.
This is my thinking. I think it's a promising company and will go up long, in the short time I think it will fall a bit more. If it gets to around 20, I might put some in to hold.

You don't make money until you sell and I never regret making money.
 

Slayer-33

Liverpool-2
Hmm I'm back, guess things aren't looking good atm lol (EV sector). Will see where to put some money now that market seems to be switching up.

🤔

What moves are you guys doing or if no moves til mid Jan?
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Dumped a lot of stuff last few days.... Trivago, Epizyme, Pfizer (should have held), Fisker, UTZ. Got out making 5-20% on each except shitty Epizyme where I broke even (I think I made like $50). Dead stock for 3 months. I played it simply for a buyout rumour based on a drug they have. Watch my luck and it gets bought out this month. lol

Only bad pick since the summer is RMG. Got in too late.

The only volatile stock I have left on me are shitty RMG, and Lightspeed which I'm rolling the dice on as a long term gainer..... unless it bombs and I chicken out. Its been creeping higher lately so a keeper for now. Got in around $40.

Hmm I'm back, guess things aren't looking good atm lol (EV sector). Will see where to put some money now that market seems to be switching up.

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What moves are you guys doing or if no moves til mid Jan?
Not buying anything till next year. Wait till markets shake out in December.

Hold off on EV till it settles. LI just announced a shit load of share offering, KNDI is still sinking on the Hindenburg news. I think these will rebound, but the momentum balloon just got a big leak.

I made money on both earlier this month, but it got too hot.

If LI drops to I'd say $25 and KNDI at $5, it might be worth getting in. KNDI has historically been in that $4-6 range for a while but only lately popped to $10-15. LI Auto had been dicking around from $17 (IPO when I got in) to $20 for months. But only popped to $40 lately.
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Fuck it. Dumped HPE for a 15% gain in a month and a half. Got in at $9.90. Had a solid earnings report but stock barely moved??? Not a good sign.

Got a pot of cash on me. Will wait to dive in start of new year.
 
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BigBooper

Member
About time to get back in on PLTR if you believe in it. I put a limit buy on it if it drops just a bit more today.

Other than that, I'm holding some oil and mineral, and ABEV long. I'm getting out of everything else for now, except if Roblox debuts at a cheap price I might get some.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
About time to get back in on PLTR if you believe in it. I put a limit buy on it if it drops just a bit more today.

Other than that, I'm holding some oil and mineral, and ABEV long. I'm getting out of everything else for now, except if Roblox debuts at a cheap price I might get some.
I'm going to keep my eye on Palantir and Ambev. Palantir killed today and Ambev looks like a down and out stock ready for a rebound.

Some stocks I'm watchlisting for Jan:

Athira Pharma
Velodyne Lidar
Avantor

I'm tempted to get back into Trivago again and hope it pops to $5.

I got out of UTZ chips for a 15% gain since I bought it IPO week. But for a stable long term play, I might get back into UTZ. But right now, I'm in momentum flip mode. Same goes for Grocery Outlet. Held for over a year as I bought that one around IPO week and made around 30%. It goes up and down in this $35-45 band (excluding covid when it sunk to around $28). Now at $37. It's a boring steady one too.
 
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Go_Ly_Dow

Member
I wish I knew where to start! I've never purchased any stocks, but want to start investing.
 
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BigBooper

Member
I wish I knew where to start! I've never purchased any stocks, but want to start investing.
Start small. Start up a Robinhood account and put $500 into it and see how you do. Don't be emotionally about it and don't let anyone talk you into anything you're unsure about. Check out the investing subreddits and wallstreetbets, but don't take those guys too seriously. It's a good source to catch big, obvious waves, but don't trust their advice. Don't mess with options until you're an expert. Just look at the trends.

If you like it, you'll probably want to find different, more mature brokerage. Start reading up on what you don't understand at investopedia. Good luck.
 

HoodWinked

Member
Pltr almost at 20 it's what citron was shorting it at. Crazy they called it when it was at 30.

Also Airbnb and doordash IPO debuting soon. $35 bil and $32 bil respectively. How much do people use doordash? I really never use those services so I have no idea. Also doordash has ideal market conditions now with covid hysteria so seems like a bad buy. Airbnb seem much better comparatively and know people use airbnb and I'd use it if I actually traveled.

 

ManofOne

Plus Member
Door Dash valuation will be relative to its competitors plus it is vastly superior diversity in its sales however it something that UberEats and Grubhub looking into expanding into through partnerships.

I think in terms of sales DoorDash has the larger marketshare but fact check me on that one.

I would short Uber and Grub on DoorDash IPO but you never know. Compare IPO post premiums to see what the market thinks about each company.

AirBnB is one I am still looking at.
 
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Foamy

Unconfirmed Member
Right now I'm pretty pumped on The Very Good Food Company.
I've been selling on highs and rebuying on lows and buying more shares with the profits. I have very big expectations for this company and growth projections are great. It's still a pinx at this point but its trading in the 5's now so it wont be much longer.
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Fuck it. Just dumped all my Lightspeed POS for $75 cdn. Bought in the low 40s. Up 10% alone today. I think this could be a mini Shopify worth a couple hundred bucks.

Stock went up from $40 to $75 in one month. Too hot for me.

Will keep an eye out. Might get in later.

Only stocks I have left are shitty RMG (down 12% in a couple days) and a slew of boring Canadian stuff that still hasn't fully recovered from the Covid lows. Kind of there but not breaking even yet. Slow grind. Good thing is these boring ones only go up or down 25-50 cents per day even in bad market days.

Happy to say I blew past my pre-covid mark with all these lucky flips the past couple months combined with the natural slow creep for the boring stocks I have. I think my portfolio is actually up about 15% vs pre-covid. Fuck, if only there wasnt that covid meltdown which put most people behnd an 8 ball for months.... unless you were a lucky ass buying up tech stocks on the cheap!

Will coast for a bit, but really tempted to get back into Trivago for a flip.

Cheers guys. Happy investing in this volatile market.
 
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Kynrib7

Neo Member
Start small. Start up a Robinhood account and put $500 into it and see how you do. Don't be emotionally about it and don't let anyone talk you into anything you're unsure about. Check out the investing subreddits and wallstreetbets, but don't take those guys too seriously. It's a good source to catch big, obvious waves, but don't trust their advice. Don't mess with options until you're an expert. Just look at the trends.

If you like it, you'll probably want to find different, more mature brokerage. Start reading up on what you don't understand at investopedia. Good luck.

Hey, here is my background on the subject. My parents used to have a portfolio and though I took a cursory interest, I never really invested myself.

In 2007 there was suddenly a new hype about an electric roadster and talk that Tesla might be a threat to disrupt the direction of the traditional automobile industry, though at the time most traditionalists thought it was nothing, lol. I got interested in the prospect of electric cars and thought Tesla would be a good thing to invest in.. unfortunately, I didn't have money at the time to do so, but had I been able to, I'd be a millionaire by now...

My point, the people talking about battery tech here are 100% right. This is where money is to be made. Also I think, 5g related technologies are a good bet short term.

I've recently found there are some great resources for self teaching. Check out a simulator called Rapunzl. I'm using solely this to teach myself and I like it a lot. It's very user friendly and is linked to a near real time simulation of the market. I'm sure there are others too, but it's a no risk safe way of learning the ins and outs of trading, only downside is you don't make real money right off the bat. good luck:)
 

Kynrib7

Neo Member
Start small. Start up a Robinhood account and put $500 into it and see how you do. Don't be emotionally about it and don't let anyone talk you into anything you're unsure about. Check out the investing subreddits and wallstreetbets, but don't take those guys too seriously. It's a good source to catch big, obvious waves, but don't trust their advice. Don't mess with options until you're an expert. Just look at the trends.

If you like it, you'll probably want to find different, more mature brokerage. Start reading up on what you don't understand at investopedia. Good luck.
Oops may have quoted the wrong person, my previous post meant to respond to you!
 

Ceelic21

Neo Member
The only volatile thing I own is Bitcoin and some other crypto. Otherwise I stick to broad market ETF's. I'm too scurred of these meme stocks. :(
 

Go_Ly_Dow

Member
Hey, here is my background on the subject. My parents used to have a portfolio and though I took a cursory interest, I never really invested myself.

In 2007 there was suddenly a new hype about an electric roadster and talk that Tesla might be a threat to disrupt the direction of the traditional automobile industry, though at the time most traditionalists thought it was nothing, lol. I got interested in the prospect of electric cars and thought Tesla would be a good thing to invest in.. unfortunately, I didn't have money at the time to do so, but had I been able to, I'd be a millionaire by now...

My point, the people talking about battery tech here are 100% right. This is where money is to be made. Also I think, 5g related technologies are a good bet short term.

I've recently found there are some great resources for self teaching. Check out a simulator called Rapunzl. I'm using solely this to teach myself and I like it a lot. It's very user friendly and is linked to a near real time simulation of the market. I'm sure there are others too, but it's a no risk safe way of learning the ins and outs of trading, only downside is you don't make real money right off the bat. good luck:)

Thanks a lot man! Really appreciate this. I'll look into the simulator!
 

BigBooper

Member
Is there any particular signal you guys use when deciding to short sell?
I'm too skeered to do much of that. On the whole, everything seems to be rising...eventually. I mostly wanted to answer your earlier question. There's no way for users to delete a post, but you can edit it.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Is there any particular signal you guys use when deciding to short sell?
Like Big Bopper, I don't short sell. My trading accounts are standard ones too. They don't even let me short sell.

But as for advice in this crazy market it's tough to short anything because fundamentals are tossed out the window. It's mostly about momentum.

The only advice I'd suggest that does seem true is whenever some crazy Citron or Hindenburg announces one of their "This company sucks and is a scam. Short it", the company will often drop 10% that day. And will almost always trickle down a bit more the rest of the week.

From there, it'll stabilize and then either creep lower or rebound.

Assuming you can't right away short on day one riding the stock down 10%, I'd say there's still opportunity to ride the downtrend for a few more days and then decide to get out (scam claims are BS) or keep holding (scam claims are legit and the upward momentum is totally shattered going forward).

I've had stocks that got hit with these claims, and none of them were true. They all rebounded. But they never rebounded in a big way the day after. The stocks always languished for a week before rebounding.

These short selling investment companies sound legit, but almost always are bullshitting with fake info, fake photos and after it's debunked they quietly go away.

I'll give you an example. During the weed craze, I had Aphria. Made good money on it around $10,000. But it roller coastered as MJ stocks were volatile and about 2 years ago, Hindenburg claimed Aphria was BS and showed photos.

The photos were BS and were taken from pieces of land BESIDE Aphria's property. They claimed the empty land was theirs and they set up fake offices. Hindenburg came out with a big story and claimed "90% of our claims are true" or some garbage.

After their claims were BS, Aphria rebounded. And Hindenburg didn't even have the guts to announce they rescind their views. They made their money. The only reason people knew they quietly bailed is because someone on Twitter asked them about it and they responded in a tweet they decided Aphria's management is now ok. That was 2 weeks after their claim. And unless you saw that tweet, you'd never even know they already bailed shorting it.

So from a fancy powerpoint "these fields are empty and there's no office" to "management is ok" in two weeks shows what scum these short selling companies are. But you can't fight downward momentum if you are going long. So if you want to short sell and catch it at the right time, you can ride the wave down and bank money. But be sure to get out before it rebounds.

Watch out as shorting stocks can lead to (in theory) unlimited compounding losses. While going long the traditional way caps your loss at whatever you put into it assuming the stock craters to $0.

In the past year or two, if you shorted any company involved with vaccines, EV, or cloud servers you'd be a dead duck. Most of these companies have probably doubled or tripled. So be careful.
 
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Foamy

Unconfirmed Member
I've shorted Nikola a few times.
I've also shorted AMD when it hit new highs cause its been up and down all year like a predictable yoyo.
Ill buy and sell or short whenever its up or down 10% over the last 5-10 !trading days.
 
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